Non knife people's AWESOME knives. Lol

[wjang310]

Hate to break it to y'alls but we are the goofballs here. $1000 knives that get stored in a safe? $200 knife to trim loose threads and open the mail? Springs to assist that overworked thumb? Super death's head military designs to impress the mall crowd? Camo to insure it's never found again when dropped? It's only natural that when you point and laugh there are three other fingers pointing back at you!

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A buddy of mine is a cop. He knows I'm into knives so one day he showed me his new duty knife. It was one of those 'super tactical' abominations with every mall ninja feature the manufacturer could cram into it; a poorly made, high-volume/mass produced, piece of pot metal junk that be the envy of many a nine year old boy.

Now he and I are friends and we like to rip on each other. It's always in a good-natured, jocular way, but an outsider might not know it. I certainly didn't pull any punches when I told him what I thought of it. He took the knife back in silence, looked at it a bit, and tucked it away. I knew I'd gone too far.

He went out on his next shift with a new Cold Steel Recon 1, courtesy of a shamed Timberweasel.

"Never insult a man's knife... unless you're prepared to give him something better." :thumbup:

-Brett

Precisely! A bunch of Opinels and Moras costs far less than a Sebenza and are easily given away to those who could be given more knowledge on the subject of quality knives at a low price. Like they say, "Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight."

i get what the OP is trying to say. it's not a bad thing, really. we all have instances wherein we get to feel powerful and all-knowing. in my experience, people were wowed at the sight or possession of this type of knife between 1983 and ---when was the last rambo movie?

i tell them that's a great knife (it's a buck.) i just couldn't for the life of me explain what those screw-on spikes are for. i think they screw on at the front, to act as additional hand protection?

Very sweet grappel hooks on that knife. I guess you would need to use the sheath to attatch the rope? But imagine, you could kill the sentry at the top of a ledge and go straight in to climbing the wall! All illogically with the sheath on, but fantasy is fantasy.

 

[Sikael]

I remember this one time I was on a forum, and this guy couldn't wrap his head around the fact that not everyone needs/wants to carry a $100-$1000 knife. I was shocked! It was as if he was too good for people with cheap knives, and found them to be "less of a person"...

Grow up dude What if I said you were "lesser" for not wearing a suit and tie everyday?

For the hell of it, what knife do you carry?

We all make these judgements daily -- what we consider better, what we consider ugly, or poorly made. I've watched at least one film in the past week I have no problem calling complete crap, even though some people likely think it's a masterpiece.

I didn't think the OP was passing judgement on his friend's worth as an individual, just laughing about what some people consider a 'good knife'. Since this person remains unnamed and presumably unaware of this thread, and I didn't hear any obnoxious comments about his 'value as a person' -- I think that's reading something into it that's not necessarily there -- I don't see the problem.

I've laughed when a friend likes a movie I consider terrible, but it's genuine surprise and bewilderment, not an attempt to embarrass them. I've also deemed certain knives to be crap, and I'm guessing almost everyone on BF has done the same... but maybe I'm wrong.

I do agree that using price-tags or perceived quality to embarrass others and make yourself feel better is clearly a douchebag move.

 

[Myal]

yeah .. when I was a non knife person , Im average height , 6'4" , but damned if I could get a knife that I could use to slash cane that wasnt going to have me on my knees to cut close to the ground ..

didnt have internet at the time or a credit card to use if Id had it ..

But Id been butchering meat for the family since I was about 9 yr old , so I had a bit of an idea what I wanted from a knife ..

disassembled a leafspring pack from a 69 falcon , picked the longest from the pack that didnt have the mounting loops on it , cut a recess to make a handle , straightened it by parking a truck on the spring and lifting it back against the curve , took a couple days .. spent 3 and half days grinding an edge onto it with a 4 inch angle grinder , being seriously careful to keep it cold with a wet rag , used uerathane to glue some handle slabs on ( you try drilling a leafspring .. not normalised , but as a spring ..) ... and beat that knife to hell and back for years

Yeah I was a non knife person for sure !!

best trolling of another non knife person tho ..

I made a few knives from recycled hi-speed steel powerhacksaw blades .. the allhard kind .I love them .. as a saw they cut steel barstock all day , as a knife its a seriously over engineered steel but it really ,really holds an edge ..cuts thru sheet steel without a problem or edge damage , and cos I made them , they were free

Old mate of mine watching me sharpen one of them ( wife used it to trim the lawn edges ) began saying how awesome his buddies knife was .. Im just listening , working on the little dings my wife put in the edge chopping it against the concrete garden edge ..
and when the stories are getting pretty tall .. how this surgial stainless steel his buddies knife is made from is sooo awesome it melts thru blackberry cane like butter chops down palm trees and has SO MUCH POWER ... ( I actually watched them fighting with and losing to the same blackberrys he was talking about )

I picked up an empty tincan , trim off the top and bottm ridges , open it out flat and start shaving strips off it like it was paper Im testing a blade on ...
" When I get rich mate , Im gunna save up and buy me a knife like his .. till then tho , Im stuck with this junk I make myself "

poor guys jaw dropped some and he lost his train of thought and had to go .

Guess its one of them had to be there moments tho ..

 

[James Y]

As a kid (1970s), I carried a few different brands of knives, like Schrade, Buck, Ka-Bar, Camillus, Craftsman, and even had one little Wenger. I also owned a few super-cheaply made Colonial pocketknives, probably boys' knives. I used them all at various times. One of the few locking blades I had was a Japanese-made lock back stamped 'Khyber' (I think that's the spelling) that was good quality.

However, one knife I was especially proud of was one of those cheap switchblades stamped "rizzuto estileto Milano". I got it from another kid who brought it up from Mexico. It had a 3" blade, so would be considered illegal to carry. The tip of the blade was exposed a bit when closed, but it fired open nicely. I carried it in my right front pocket.

Even back then, I knew it wasn't high quality, but I carried it anyway, thinking I was cool because I carried a switchblade. But in my left front pocket, I always still carried either a Camillus jackknife or my Camillus-made Buck 303 Cadet. Because I knew that the switchblade couldn't cut worth anything, and the steel was some kind of ultra-soft chrome-type steel. All it was good for was stabbing, and in the locked position there was considerable play. I carried it for about a year or more. One time it even opened in my pocket without my knowing it, and I got a near-wicked surprise when I sat down. That was when I decided to stop carrying it.

Jim

 

[Basher313]

If there wasn't a little bit of knife snob in all of us, we wouldn't be here. I mean I have to contain my cringe whenever someone comes in and asks where the Smith&Wesson knives are. LOL. Now can we get back to funny stories???? Please?

I actually carried a S&W "SWAT" knife for years in my late teens and early 20s. I still have it, though it doesn't get carried anymore because I used it so much that the detent keeping it closed is worn out. It's not a fancy or expensive knife by any means, but for general use in an electrical company's warehouse, it certainly did the job well! I kept it because the blade still takes a good edge, and it's handy as a beater knife in the garage or backyard.

I now run the gamut with my knives. I have everything from a cheap $5 gift store keychain folder my grandfather bought me nearly two decades ago, all the way up to a ZT 0561, Spyderco Southard, and a custom Gayle Bradley I'm picking up today. Not all get used, but many do.

As long as the knife is safe to use and the owner's happy, that's all that matters. Sure, there are times where we should educate people on buying a better knife for the job, but we don't have to be rude about it. At the same time, I see nothing wrong with having a good chuckle afterwards with ourselves and sharing those experiences here.

 

[The Aflac Duck]

We all make these judgements daily -- what we consider better, what we consider ugly, or poorly made. I've watched at least one film in the past week I have no problem calling complete crap, even though some people likely think it's a masterpiece.

I didn't think the OP was passing judgement on his friend's worth as an individual, just laughing about what some people consider a 'good knife'. Since this person remains unnamed and presumably unaware of this thread, and I didn't hear any obnoxious comments about his 'value as a person' -- I think that's reading something into it that's not necessarily there -- I don't see the problem.

I've laughed when a friend likes a movie I consider terrible, but it's genuine surprise and bewilderment, not an attempt to embarrass them. I've also deemed certain knives to be crap, and I'm guessing almost everyone on BF has done the same... but maybe I'm wrong.

I do agree that using price-tags or perceived quality to embarrass others and make yourself feel better is clearly a douchebag move.

Taste in entertainment and ones personal possessions is completely different. Come down to my job site and tell our carpenters that their makita drills/estwing hammers are pieces of s**t. I'd love to see what happens...

 

[Insipid Moniker]

Taste in entertainment and ones personal possessions is completely different. Come down to my job site and tell our carpenters that their makita drills/estwing hammers are pieces of s**t. I'd love to see what happens...

I'm genuinely confused as to what you're getting at here, so your carpenters will what? Beat him up? I mean, I've known plenty of guys that would do the same if you tell them their favorite band is crap as well, so I don't think that supports your initial statement of difference.

 

[jasonbroni]

Also estwing and Makitas are not pieces of bleep.

 

[Sikael]

Taste in entertainment and ones personal possessions is completely different. Come down to my job site and tell our carpenters that their makita drills/estwing hammers are pieces of s**t. I'd love to see what happens...

:thumbup: I'll get right on that last part. Thanks for the hostility, though... I've always been polite with you.

The basic premise is the same, since they both involve relative judgements about quality -- I may think a brand or tool sucks, someone else might love it -- it's less subjective than the arts, I agree, but still arbitrary in most respects. But even if you don't see the connection... fine. Cheerfully withdrawn .

I like Makita, and I don't think they're PoS tools. I've use Makita 'skilsaws', cut-off-saws, table saws and one hammer-drill that was already 15 years-old when I started using it. I finally switched to a Hilte hammer-drill, and loved it, but that Makita was very tough. I have told employees and sub-trades I don't like certain brands, certain tools, and they've said the same to me. We're fine . And almost everyone in residential building I know still uses Estwing, with occasional Ti-hammers and Stanley's. So it's N/A on two points -- I wouldn't do it because it's an assh*le maneuver, and I wouldn't sh*t-talk tools I like.

If someone asks my honest opinion, I'll give it. I've heard you express opinions about knives, and I like hearing those opinions. I'm not talking about walking up to strangers, OR friends, and acting like a jerk. I think I made that pretty clear... but maybe not.

I do agree that using price-tags or perceived quality to embarrass others and make yourself feel better is clearly a douchebag move.

Not looking to argue, man. I just think there's a difference. Not every comment about a knife's quality is meant as an insult to the owners -- especially when nothing is said directly to any of these owners.

 

[not2sharp]

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i tell them that's a great knife (it's a buck.) i just couldn't for the life of me explain what those screw-on spikes are for. i think they screw on at the front, to act as additional hand protection?

The screw on points are anchors (as in boat anchor). They were intended for use by military scuba divers to help hold them in position until the designated go time. You would use the knife with the blade still enclosed in the sheath; screw on the anchors and jam them into a suitable obstacle and tie into the lanyard ring at the base of the knife (which is missing on your example). You may recall that the plastic sheath suspension was designed to easily detach from the belt (now you know why).

This example still has its lanyard ring:

n2s

 

[Seilu]

My god - some of you guys are rough! (and because I read so many of the posts here - I'm noticing that it's really not that many, but more of a select few who mainly reply with nasty retorts.) Thank you to the rest of you!

I noticed that too, I thought this would be a fun thread where we could get some laughs in but some people have to crash the party.
One of good friends who has $4000+ custom ARs was going on about how he loves knives too so I was pretty excited to see what he had given his expensive gun tastes; he showed me an Mtech spring assist knife and told me they make some of the best knives in the world lol
I had to him my knives

 

[Sikael]

I'm genuinely confused as to what you're getting at here, so your carpenters will what? Beat him up? I mean, I've known plenty of guys that would do the same if you tell them their favorite band is crap as well, so I don't think that supports your initial statement of difference.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. All these judgements are personal. The criteria differ, but you're still saying This is better than This, or I prefer This to This. In fact, if we're talking about Things That Will Get You Beaten Up -- and I didn't think we were, but whatever -- making fun of a person's fashion sense will work far better than insulting tools.

 

[Tachead01]

Taste in entertainment and ones personal possessions is completely different. Come down to my job site and tell our carpenters that their makita drills/estwing hammers are pieces of s**t. I'd love to see what happens...

Lol that would be funny. But, Makita is nowhere near the company they used to be. Their tools have drooped in quality big time since the old days when they were the thing to have. I will take a Dewalt XRP, Milwaukee Fuel, or Bosch any day over a Makita. We are talking knifes though.

 

[Sikael]

Lol that would be funny. But, Makita is nowhere near the company they used to be. Their tools have drooped in quality big time since the old days when they were the thing to have. I will take a Dewalt XRP, Milwaukee Fuel, or Bosch any day over a Makita. We are talking knifes though.

If someone came to the jobsite to heckle tools, I think I'd laugh in his face and tell him to GTFO, but who does that? I mean... Oh... talking sh*t about Makita? How DARE you! I demand satisfaction. You may choose the rapier, Sir, or pistols at dawn.

 

[Tachead01]

If someone came to the jobsite to heckle tools, I think I'd laugh in his face and tell him to GTFO, but who does that? I mean... Oh... talking sh*t about Makita? How DARE you! I demand satisfaction. You may choose the rapier, Sir, or pistols at dawn.

Lol, yeah it would be pretty bad. I've never seen it but, I don't doubt someone on site might over react if it happened. Some people seem to never grow out of being in high school. It's pretty funny.

 

[The Aflac Duck]

Good Lord some of you have some thick skulls...

My point is that talking negative about someone's personal possessions is ignorant, plain and simple. Saying "that Makita is s**t" would be frowned upon by everybody on the job. Different strokes for different folks, that's all...

 

[jasonbroni]

Here's my definition of a POS knife: a flea market/novelty knife that has no practical uses. Or a knife that I wouldn't feel comfortable or safe using. My friend's knife was/is a POS.

 

[stabman]

Good Lord some of you have some thick skulls...

Which is why you feel the point must be driven through with a hammer?

 

[Tachead01]

Good Lord some of you have some thick skulls...

My point is that talking negative about someone's personal possessions is ignorant, plain and simple. Saying "that Makita is s**t" would be frowned upon by everybody on the job. Different strokes for different folks, that's all...

We are just talking man. I got your point. I never go out of my way to point out the shortcomings of other people's possessions. At least not to them. However, if I hear them complaining, I will offer up a better option.

 

[Sikael]

Good Lord some of you have some thick skulls...
My point is that talking negative about someone's personal possessions is ignorant, plain and simple. Saying "that Makita is s**t" would be frowned upon by everybody on the job. Different strokes for different folks, that's all...

"Thick skulls..." C'mon. It might be you this time, man. No one ever said insulting someone over their personal possessions is okay. No one was arguing that point... as far as I could see.

Anyone who disagrees with you, on the other hand, has 'thick skulls'... and for some bizarre reason, dissenting opinions are fair game for insulting people. That makes sense.

I'm not getting into name-calling. I don't know who pissed in your oatmeal, but you need to relax. You usually come off as reasonable and intelligent.