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:grumpy: On May 27 2009 a knifemaker who goes by the name of mstephen put a knife up for sale on the bladeforums at 10:38pm. At 11:44pm that same night I said I would take it and sent him an e-mail to ask if he would ship to Canada. On May 28 I received an e-mail saying what the cost would be with shipping, I then sent him the money with paypal and asked that the knife be shipped with U.S.P.S., he then posted sold in the fixed blade for sale sub forum.

On June 10th after not receiving any notification from him about confirmation of mailing nor even that he has received the money I paypaled him. I sent an e-mail to his yahoo email account letting him know that the knife had not arrived as of yet and could he please send me conformation that it had been shipped and to provide me with a tracking number if he had one, I recieved no responce so the next day I sent him a PM on the U.S.N. since he also posts there asking him to check his e-mail for my message.

As of June 12th I still had not heard back from this knifemaker in question. I began to think my previous messages were not effective in reaching him, it was at this time that I decided to go back to the origonal 'fixed blade for sale' thread,

(http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648496)

and posted a request for confermation that my knife had been mailed out to me. Later that afternoon I aquired a secondary e-mail for the said knifemaker, I then sent a email to that account requesting conformation that the knife had been indeed mailed, in that e-mail I stated that I know it is called 'Snail-mail' for a reason and that I was not expecting the said item to arrive on my doorstep within a few days of purchase but due to his lack of communication I was being led to believe that the knife that I bought was not sent to me when I had paid for it.

Here is a copy of the email i sent




From: lee brooks <brooksknives@shaw.ca>
To: mjeffo@mass.rr.com; damlan42@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:10:13 PM
Subject: knife info


on may 28, 2009. i purchased the bumblebee neck knife that you had for sale on the blade forums.
i sent you an e-mail asking whether or not you would ship to canada, you agreed and set the price of $85.00 US.
the last and only other communication from you has been SOLD on the blade forums web site.
it is now June 12, 2009. i have sent you an e-mail at your yahoo account, I have sent you a pm through the usual suspects network, as well as a post in the original for sale post requesting confromation of the mailing of said item.
i fully understand that there is a reason the postal service is called snail-mail and i don't actually expect them on my doorstep in a few days, but it would be appreciated if you could at least send me confirmation that you have at least mailed it too me. As it stands i am left wondering if it was even mailed.
if you could please respond promptly to this matter i would appreciate it.
lee brooks


It was later that evening(June 12th) that I finally received his first and only responce to my multipule requests for confirmation of mailing 15 days after paying for said knife. In this e-mail mstephen finally gave me the tracking number I had requested. I then went to the U.S. postal service website to find out the location of my package. It was at this time that I found out that mstephen had not even dropped off my knife at his local post office until June 12, 2009, at 12:13 pm.

I wholely understand that if a person is busy it may take 2 or 3 days to take a package to the post office but as far as I'm concerned 15 days is unacceptable for a knife that is already made and was put up for immediate sale. The fact that this man could not or would not respond to my requests for mailing comfirmation leads me to believe that if I had not been consistant in my endevors he may have never mailed out the knife that I had paid for.

june 17 2009 update
The knife arrived today it is a very nice knife for the money the edge is hair popping sharp and the
wrap on the handle is wrapped nice and tight and gives a very good grip to hold it was packed in bubble wrap and taped tight so it would not recieve any damage in shippment.

however i did have to pay more for taxes and customs fees than i should have. I payed 75$plus shipping on this knife and on the customs form the knife maker put a 200$ value on the knife
so i paid almost double on the fees i do not see how or why he would say it is worth almost 3 times what i payed for. sounds to me like he was inflating the value for insurance purposes. So if the package was lost he would get back more the purchase cost. While i can understand maybe 150$ value that way if the knife was lost he would not be out and then neither would i, but where does the extra 50$ come from unless I am missing something that is common practice.

Even though i have not had the knife long enough to give a proper examination, I can however speak of his business practices. Due to the way mstephen handeled his side of this transaction it is my opinion that anyone who deals with this man should proceed with caution, as he does not communicate with his customers and seems to have a problem mailing his product promptly.

If mstephen wishes to come into this post so he can try to show legitamate justification for the 15 day delay in this matter please do so, as I would be looking forward to hearing the reasons for this delay.

Lee Brooks
 
The knife arrived and is nice knife and you are happy with the nice knife he made and you bought.

You are unhappy with the value the Knifemaker placed on this nice knife that he made because it increased the fees you had to pay to Canada, correct?

And that's the issue, the shipping and handling fees???????
 
The knife arrived and is nice knife and you are happy with the nice knife he made and you bought.

You are unhappy with the value the Knifemaker placed on this nice knife that he made because it increased the fees you had to pay to Canada, correct?

And that's the issue, the shipping and handling fees???????

Shipping anything 15 days after payment is shady to me. Customs fees get expensive, and I can see no reason to put more value on a knife you shipped unless you are trying to get more money back if it is lost (you have to provide proof of value, so he would only get back what was paid). If I were brooksknives, I'd feel slighted.
 
The knife arrived and is nice knife and you are happy with the nice knife he made and you bought.

You are unhappy with the value the Knifemaker placed on this nice knife that he made because it increased the fees you had to pay to Canada, correct?

And that's the issue, the shipping and handling fees???????

wolfmann
if you reread my post you will see that my main problem is with the fact that this man did not even try to respond to me when asked several times if he had sent the knife so no comm on his side leaves me unhappy

lee brooks
 
15 days to ship with no communication is VERY poor business practice.

Lying about the value on insurance forms doesn't exactly seem to honest either. If it had been lost and they claimed the $200.00, I believe that is fraud?
 
15 days to ship with no communication is VERY poor business practice.

Lying about the value on insurance forms doesn't exactly seem to honest either. If it had been lost and they claimed the $200.00, I believe that is fraud?

bearclaw thank you for the responce is does seem a little shady dont it

lee brooks
 
after getting a couple of pm from other guys i have found out that this is not the first time this guy has done some shady stuff like this on both of the forums so i think this shoud be brought back to the top so ppl can see what type of maker he is
he is showing a patteren in his dealings with customers so my warning stands
THIS GUY IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED

lee brooks
 
MStephen - while he may participate/contribute on other Forums he only uses BF to sell his goods. So far in the 6 months of 2009 - out of 75 + posts approx 4 Posts are not directly related to selling an Item. I point that out only to illustrate that he should clearly understand what is a timely manner when conducting business.

Will the "Sorry, I just dropped the ball because I was so busy" excuse work here - No.
- No other project is more important than taking care of someone who has already sent you their money.
- MStephan posted several other items For Sale during the period that Mr. Brooks was trying to contact him so he was actively working and actively using his computer.
- A simple message to tell Mr. Brooks what was going on would have taken less than 2 minutes.

What about the extra amount that Mr. Brooks had to pay for Taxes? This is a knife that MStephan was selling for $75 shipped in the US - why the $200 Price Tag when it went to Canada? Trying to scam the PO if the item was lost? If not, what other excuse is there?

Interesting indeed.
 
MStephen - while he may participate/contribute on other Forums he only uses BF to sell his goods. So far in the 6 months of 2009 - out of 75 + posts approx 4 Posts are not directly related to selling an Item. I point that out only to illustrate that he should clearly understand what is a timely manner when conducting business.

Will the "Sorry, I just dropped the ball because I was so busy" excuse work here - No.
- No other project is more important than taking care of someone who has already sent you their money.
- MStephan posted several other items For Sale during the period that Mr. Brooks was trying to contact him so he was actively working and actively using his computer.
- A simple message to tell Mr. Brooks what was going on would have taken less than 2 minutes.

What about the extra amount that Mr. Brooks had to pay for Taxes? This is a knife that MStephan was selling for $75 shipped in the US - why the $200 Price Tag when it went to Canada? Trying to scam the PO if the item was lost? If not, what other excuse is there?

Interesting indeed.
hey hillbilly

thank you for seeing my side of this matter

i still think somthing is not right here and i think this guy did not care that he had my money he is in his own little world but now that i know that this is not the first time he has played games with customers so i wil not deal with him again

lee brooks

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Lack of communication is always a sore point with me. How much effort does it take to send an email stating the knife was shipped and providing the tracking number. I imagine there was no communication, because he hadn't shipped the knife, but he should have communicated that fact and given Lee the reasons why he hadn't made it to the Post Office yet.

As for the reason why he gave it a value of $200.00, here is possibility. The Post Office charges you for insurance per $100.00 of value. He could have been trying to make sure that the value of the knife plus the cost of shipping and insurance would be covered. If that came out to more than $100.00, he may have put down $200.00, because that is what he was going to be charged for. I wouldn't assume that it was done for shady reasons.

Not shipping for fifteen days isn't cool unless there is a good reason. If there was a good reason, Lee should have been informed. Good communication would have made this a much better transaction.
 
As for the reason why he gave it a value of $200.00, here is possibility. The Post Office charges you for insurance per $100.00 of value. He could have been trying to make sure that the value of the knife plus the cost of shipping and insurance would be covered. If that came out to more than $100.00, he may have put down $200.00, because that is what he was going to be charged for.


Good point, I had not thought of that.
 
Lack of communication is always a sore point with me. How much effort does it take to send an email stating the knife was shipped and providing the tracking number. I imagine there was no communication, because he hadn't shipped the knife, but he should have communicated that fact and given Lee the reasons why he hadn't made it to the Post Office yet.

what i dont understand is why he would not even try to get ahold of me and tell me what was up

As for the reason why he gave it a value of $200.00, here is possibility. The Post Office charges you for insurance per $100.00 of value. He could have been trying to make sure that the value of the knife plus the cost of shipping and insurance would be covered. If that came out to more than $100.00, he may have put down $200.00, because that is what he was going to be charged for. I wouldn't assume that it was done for shady reasons.


thanks for that info keith

Not shipping for fifteen days isn't cool unless there is a good reason. If there was a good reason, Lee should have been informed. Good communication would have made this a much better transaction.

yes it would have
 
I ordered a cleaver from him around the same time.....no problems with communications, prompt shipping and a great value, IMHO. :confused:

Sorry to hear of your troubles.....
 
I'm pretty sure that if you insure an item for any amount and it gets lost, you have to prove that the item was worth that amount in order to get it back. If you send a $5 item insured for $1000 and it gets lost, the post office won't automatically send you $1000.

Correct me if I'm wrong...
 
I'm pretty sure that if you insure an item for any amount and it gets lost, you have to prove that the item was worth that amount in order to get it back. If you send a $5 item insured for $1000 and it gets lost, the post office won't automatically send you $1000.

Correct me if I'm wrong...

You are correct, but mstephen is the maker of the knife. I don't think it would be very hard for him to come up with documentation to show the Post Office that the knife has a value of whatever amount.
 
You are correct, but mstephen is the maker of the knife. I don't think it would be very hard for him to come up with documentation to show the Post Office that the knife has a value of whatever amount.

hello keith

i payed 85us with shipping so him saying that it was worth 200us is a little funny

with exchange i payed 20more that i should have on this knife to customs so i am going to send them a copy of the paypal transaction so they can do a reassessment on it and give me back some of my money
 
Ive never had a complaint about my shipping pratices before.I sent you the confirmation # when it shipped and the web site address and phone # to track it.If thats not good enough for you thats unforunate.As for other customers having problems with my buisness,i have only received good remarks from e-mails and PMs.I spend 12 -16 hours a day in the shop filling orders and if i cant respond to emails all day thats just how things are.If you are not happy with the knife or the shipping just return it and ill refund you your money.As for insurance ,my wife misunderstood the amounts i wanted (5 knives went out that day)and you paid only $10.00 regardless of how much your package was insured for.
 
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Ive never had a complaint about my shipping pratices before.I sent you the confirmation # when it shipped and the web site address and phone # to track it.If thats not good enough for you thats unforunate.

im am going to make this as simple as possible
if you or your wife had emailed me to tell me that you could not mail
the knife out for 15 days in the first place i would not have had a problem with that

i understand that ppl are busy

but leaving me in the wind with no
communication is not good
 
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