Nutnfancy's take on the Junglas

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irishfan82 said:
I was looking at the high end of $50 at a Condor. I can't believe machetes are so cheap and will do the same job a lot of larger knives that cost a lot more. Like I said I am new to knives so all input is greatly appreciated.
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Condor makes fine tools. I've handled (not used mind you) everything in their line and it all seemed top notch. I'd have no qualms about taking any of their gear to the shrub and depending on it. Even liked their smaller knives.

I love my Junglas, it's one of my favorite blades hands down, but the reality is that it's out performed by most of my machetes. You have to figure, a sharpened edge is a sharpened edge for the most part. A machete offers more reach on average and the lighter weight and longer blade equal more velocity being transmitted into the material being cut. Couple that with the thinner stock and it penetrates deeper.

Now the down side to that is edge retention. Your going to spend alot more time maintaining the edge on a machete due to the softer heat treat and thinner profile. My Junglas still has the original edge, untouched, and there's plenty of folks on this forum who can vouch for the ammount of use it's seen.

Even if you decide to get a large chopper, pick up a machete and see how you like it.
 
shotgunner11 said:
Condor makes fine tools. I've handled (not used mind you) everything in their line and it all seemed top notch. I'd have no qualms about taking any of their gear to the shrub and depending on it. Even liked their smaller knives.

I love my Junglas, it's one of my favorite blades hands down, but the reality is that it's out performed by most of my machetes. You have to figure, a sharpened edge is a sharpened edge for the most part. A machete offers more reach on average and the lighter weight and longer blade equal more velocity being transmitted into the material being cut. Couple that with the thinner stock and it penetrates deeper.

Now the down side to that is edge retention. Your going to spend alot more time maintaining the edge on a machete due to the softer heat treat and thinner profile. My Junglas still has the original edge, untouched, and there's plenty of folks on this forum who can vouch for the ammount of use it's seen.

Even if you decide to get a large chopper, pick up a machete and see how you like it.
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I appreciate the info. I am really looking for something large to go with my 4 or an izula.
 
I suggest spending less $$ and start out with your first large blade being a machete. Play with that and learn how to use a large blade before moving into an expensive blade like the Junglas.
 
Dizwolf said:
I just want 20 minutes to show him how to use an axe....
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An axe or hatchet and their use are kind of a special skill and not for everyone.

I grew up in the northeast with freezing winters and all the troubles they bring. My family was dirt, dirt, dirt poor at the time and all the heating was done with firewood. All of which was split with an axe.

I have hundreds on hundreds of hours swinging one and I completely suck at it. I think that the use of an axe requires a completely different level of hand-eye coordination. Folks that are good with an axe can't understand how others can't be. It's like math, but with more chance of limb removal.
 
As a youngster I spent many hours behind an axe. I broke a LOT of handles to start with but got pretty damn good. Can't swing a golf club worth a shit though.
 
shotgunner11 said:
I grew up in the northeast with freezing winters and all the troubles they bring. My family was dirt, dirt, dirt poor at the time and all the heating was done with firewood. All of which was split with an axe.It's like math, but with more chance of limb removal.
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Grew up and still reside in buffalo. At my parents house there's no gas. Heated that sucker with everything from sawmill sidecuts, broken pallets, rounds, to cordwood loads. burned 25-40 face depending on the year. I'm good at busting up wood. Preferred method? that POS hydraulic splitter :)

It takes some skill and practice... but for all we preach those things here, I see too many dismiss axes because they require it.

R.A.T. said:
As a youngster I spent many hours behind an axe. I broke a LOT of handles to start with but got pretty damn good. Can't swing a golf club worth a shit though.
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I busted up a ton of handles. I'm not a fan of fiberglass, but they're great for learning.
 
We built a hudraulic wood splitter years ago because we burn a LOT of wood in the winter, but I still like busting straight grained red oak with an axe. It's just plain fun and especially good therapy when some woman or dumbass has pissed you off. Before the splitter thought it was an axe, hammer and wedge.
 
R.A.T. said:
41 minutes!!!! Hell, that's feature length movie. No way I will sit through 41 minutes of a knife video. Wow.
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+1, 41 minutes is far too long to sit watching. I have trouble with reviewers going past 3-5 minutes.
 
R.A.T. said:
I suggest spending less $$ and start out with your first large blade being a machete. Play with that and learn how to use a large blade before moving into an expensive blade like the Junglas.
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I appreciate the advice and honesty. Any reccomendations on a good machete for the Indiana area to start with?
 
Tramontina, Gavilan, Imacasa are all good brands. Avoid the non-heat treated wal mart machetes.
 
R.A.T. said:
We built a hudraulic wood splitter years ago because we burn a LOT of wood in the winter, but I still like busting straight grained red oak with an axe. It's just plain fun and especially good therapy when some woman or dumbass has pissed you off. Before the splitter thought it was an axe, hammer and wedge.
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aye. something about a good block, and hearing that wood pop open. Of course I think I miss as often as that happens...

We had/have a couple mauls with wings in the blade that pivoted out. Worked great for very very dry wood. Now I use a lighter axe with ramps on the blade face ( for lack of a better term) to split.


some of the old workhorses I grew up with. (many more did not survive) Maul mentioned is the black one.
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R.A.T. said:
Ok, I watched the first 30 seconds. My old cheap ass machete would have had that tree down in half the time. Seriously. Buy a Junglas if you wanna be the coolest looking guy on your street. But a machete if you really want to get some work done :D
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I started watching it but I don't agree with him on some points. I personally would never baton my blade unless it's all I had. I have done it with my machetes in the woods near my place to test it and see if I had too do it I could. If I know I might have to split wood to get to dry wood too burn then I will carry a axe of some kind. If NutnFancy or anybody is ever in NC and wants to compare big knives to a machete get up with me. I think a machete can chop with the best of big blades and in most cases will surpass them in chopping.

One of my big blades is the Fallkniven Thor. I have had countless big custom knives and none of them chop as good or fast as my machete. In my neck of the woods give me a machete and a small folding or fixed blade any day of the week and I won't survive but thrive in the bush. Another thing too note is I am a big blade to machete convert. I used a unsharpened Ontario 18" as a kid and did much like it. When I hit my teens I developed the rambo syndrome. Then a friend let me use his hair shaving sharp Ontario 18" while we were on a camping trip and I was instantly cured of my rambo syndrome.
 
Dizwolf said:
I just want 20 minutes to show him how to use an axe....
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love the old skool porn music in the beginning. whacka whacka whacka :)

mmm. axes. there's a great axe book out. good intel. nice read. then you get an axe.

even people who are good with those things get hurt sometimes. plenty of youtube fail videos for loggers and tree trimmer dudes.

imagine, the horror of newbies using axes. like they see on tv. shudder.
 
I tried to watch a suppressor review of his- couldn't do it. I watched more trying to figure out if he was being serious rather than learning about the can. I like the topless girl swinging an axe though. Good mental pic
 
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