Nutnfancy's take on the Junglas

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R.A.T. said:
What I really need os someone to take the raw footage from us, edit it and put it in a viewable format. I can get the raw footage when we go down to Peru in May and also from the April survival class
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If you are serious about that, email or PM me. There is a real good chance I could make that happen. :thumbup: :)
 
shotgunner11 said:
I have hundreds on hundreds of hours swinging one and I completely suck at it. I think that the use of an axe requires a completely different level of hand-eye coordination. Folks that are good with an axe can't understand how others can't be. It's like math, but with more chance of limb removal.
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Somebody really needs to make this into a sig line.


For where nutnfancy goes into the woods, I'd use an axe over any other tool.
His problem with axes is threefold:
1.) He doesn't know how to choose one. He tried to use a Fiskars splitting axe to buck a log "Because I wanted to see if it could do double duty dooods." Well, it didn't. No shit. People who have to have an axe do double duty use a standard felling axe and just deal with the fact that it's going to stick when you start a split. They also know how to use that to their advantage.

2.) He doesn't know how to use one. His baseball bat grip is the absolute least efficient and most dangerous way to use an axe.

3.) He doesn't sharpen them. He tried to use the CS Trail Boss out of the box. Have any of you seen a Cold Steel axe out of the box? They have a 1mm wide flat where the edge goes. You have to sharpen them yourself. Yeah, no kidding it didn't chop well and kicked his ass.

But what do I know? I suck at math. ;)
 
R.A.T. said:
Seriously. Buy a Junglas if you wanna be the coolest looking guy on your street. But a machete if you really want to get some work done :D
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My Dad had one from WW2, it had black, Bakelite plastic handles that were just about indestructible. The blade was really long and shaped like a barracuda. :D

He could destroy anything with that machete. It was dirt simple and sharp as all hell.
 
Argghh, that dude is a cheese dick. Nothing takes that long. I place 0 faith in his reviews. I do like that Junglas though.
 
i just saw the review( well most of it, im a fan, like how he goes into details......but i admit i doze off after 15 minutes) and thought it was pretty good(but long) if you have ocd on researching before you buy anything( im guilty) then there pretty good, plus i get a lot of knife porn
 
I don't care for some of his table top reviews where he hasn't even used the item. I could understand talking about what he liked about it as far as feel, fit and finish. I have heard him talk about how good a knife would chop and things along those lines after he just took it out of the box looking brand new. I think when somebody says stuff like that it ruins the credibility of the review.
 
One of the other issues with the axe hate is how he talks about how high energy axe use is yet uses is a 10 lb baton to baton with.
 
I like his videos and watch them often. He gives a ton of info and best of all if I feel it's a bit too long or too much then I can fast forward to what I want to see and hear, whereas many other product reviews (this includes my own) leave out info and at times some very important information.
 
The review but long but worth it IMO
I had planned on getting the RTAK II but after seeing the review on the Junglas and I am changing and getting IT instead... I can't pass up on the best sheath.
 
adaman04 said:
One of the other issues with the axe hate is how he talks about how high energy axe use is yet uses is a 10 lb baton to baton with.
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I think part of the issue with his impression of how high energy an axe is, lays in several areas.

1. wrong axe for the job
2. terrible technique
3. dull axes


Fix those, and it's not a day in the park, but it's not that terrible. As far as weight goes, leave the 12 1 pound plus blades at home, and an axe fits just fine :)
 
TKAZ said:
I like his videos and watch them often. He gives a ton of info and best of all if I feel it's a bit too long or too much then I can fast forward to what I want to see and hear, whereas many other product reviews (this includes my own) leave out info and at times some very important information.
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+1, I like them also. I think he does a good job..... :thumbup: .. :)
 
BearKinder said:
Somebody really needs to make this into a sig line.


For where nutnfancy goes into the woods, I'd use an axe over any other tool.
His problem with axes is threefold:
1.) He doesn't know how to choose one. He tried to use a Fiskars splitting axe to buck a log "Because I wanted to see if it could do double duty dooods." Well, it didn't. No shit. People who have to have an axe do double duty use a standard felling axe and just deal with the fact that it's going to stick when you start a split. They also know how to use that to their advantage.

2.) He doesn't know how to use one. His baseball bat grip is the absolute least efficient and most dangerous way to use an axe.

3.) He doesn't sharpen them. He tried to use the CS Trail Boss out of the box. Have any of you seen a Cold Steel axe out of the box? They have a 1mm wide flat where the edge goes. You have to sharpen them yourself. Yeah, no kidding it didn't chop well and kicked his ass.
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Dizwolf said:
I think part of the issue with his impression of how high energy an axe is, lays in several areas.

1. wrong axe for the job
2. terrible technique
3. dull axes


Fix those, and it's not a day in the park, but it's not that terrible. As far as weight goes, leave the 12 1 pound plus blades at home, and an axe fits just fine :)
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His conclusion that big knives are the better tools for "serious woodworking/backpacking" compared to axes is just retarded. IMHO.
 
I always love it when these debates come about between large blades, small blades, axes, machetes, etc. I think every edge has a purpose. For me, the most versatile edge is the machete but for other it's something else. Most of the times it boils down to what tool we have been schooled on.
 
Hevy Devy said:
His conclusion that big knives are the better tools for "serious woodworking/backpacking" compared to axes is just retarded. IMHO.
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He clearly states multiple times in his video that his conclusion is specifically for him and his "system" (whatever that may mean). If he isn't skilled with an axe + wanting a one blade fits all solution, then a junglas is probably a good choice for him.
 
R.A.T. said:
I always love it when these debates come about between large blades, small blades, axes, machetes, etc. I think every edge has a purpose. For me, the most versatile edge is the machete but for other it's something else. Most of the times it boils down to what tool we have been schooled on.
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Being new to the knife world I find it valuable to hear the opinions of people who use them in the field like yourself and many others that have posted. I like the strength of the ESEE knives I have handled but a machete was never really on my mind but now I have been researching them a lot more.
 
R.A.T. said:
What I really need os someone to take the raw footage from us, edit it and put it in a viewable format. I can get the raw footage when we go down to Peru in May and also from the April survival class
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Jeff,

Shoot me an e-mail at dillon_b12 at hotmail.com. What format is the raw footage in?
 
it's long but full of good info, i like it, when it's evening there is nothing to do else than watch youtube :o and those 40 min vids help share the boredom? :p
 
R.A.T. said:
I always love it when these debates come about between large blades, small blades, axes, machetes, etc. I think every edge has a purpose. For me, the most versatile edge is the machete but for other it's something else. Most of the times it boils down to what tool we have been schooled on.
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First of all, I'm all for preference. If he likes big knives, great. So do it, but not for cutting down trees. My quarrel with him is when he misuses something and then states that it's no good.

Let's be honest, until you get to power equipment, the axe has always been the most used for harvesting wood. I remember reading an article (can't remember if it was Blade or Tactical Knives) showing guys in the Amazon going to harvest wood (not camp, but harvest trees for building and firewood), they carried machetes to clear the brush, but axes to get the trees. In Nepal, home of the khukuri, they use axes to take trees. Remember the Les Stroud show where he was on Sri Lanka? What did the guys there use, in the jungle? Axes. When everyoine from every period of time used axes the most for getting major amounts of wood, you'd think that someone would have discovered, before him, that they suck. I must conclude it's user error, and judging by HIS videos, that's just what it is.

I confess I'm not a big machete fan, but again, let's be honest. If we are talking nothing but efficiency, for the same weight, you get a lot more capability with the machete over the big knife. I don't think you can get anything that has an 18-22" blade that performs that well for that weight. It's simple physics: long length + light weight = speed of impact, thin edge and profile + impact speed = depth of cut.

If it's just a preference thing, carry what you like, but don't say the other ways suck because of preconceived notions and artificial constraints. Which is what he often does.

Keep in mind, I like his reviews. Just disagree with some of his methods and philosophy.
 
I don't have any raw footage yet. It will be after the May jungle class that I will have that. Much thanks!
 
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