"Old Knives"

[CNoyes]

That knife is pre-Camillus.

Sherwood/Bingham were located in Camillus, New York, and Millard Robeson had them make his knives after the import tariffs were passed in 1891.

He opened his factory in Perry in 1899 or 1900, and the Sherwood/Bingham factory subsequently sold to Adolph Kastor and brothers.

They later called their cutlery Camillus Cutlery Company.

 

[Campbellclanman]

Charlie Thank you for setting me right - interesting stuff!

 

[Augie]

Nice old knives as usual everyone. Not been finding much lately, did find this Ulster Knife Co NY capped end pruner. Decent shape, appears old but it seems to be pretty hard to date Ulster knives.

 

[Campbellclanman]

Nice Find Augie, in a way its good news that you arent finding too many as of lately - perhaps a few of us may be able to get in and grab one then?

Just kidding my friend, I always love seeing your lovely finds. :thumbup:

 

[Primble]

Very nice oldies Jack and Charlie Noyes !!!

Augie - that old Ulster is a wonderful piece as found ! Love the bolsters and patina on it.

Some very interesting Russian knives as well.

 

[Jack Black]

Really nice Augie :thumbup:

Very nice oldies Jack and Charlie Noyes !!!

Jack, I was meant to include the stunning Petty Sleeve-board in my last "Multi-Quote", I think those fantastic early Sheffields the way the dee stamping is struck are just amazing - and thats a great find my friend!

Thanks a lot fellers, much appreciated :thumbup:

I agree. That is how BRL defines a sleeveboard but I don't know of a closer match... sort of a sleeveboard with square ends. It's not serpentine so it can't be a stockman derivative double-end jack. I think it must be in the category of cattle knife derivative double-end jacks. If I recall correctly, Winchester called it a Texas jack but BRL identifies a Texas Jack as a stockman derivative.

Would be a good question for BRL.

Could we get them to fall within the definition of an Anglo-Saxon pattern?

My apologies gents, I was busy yesterday, and completely forgot about our discussion

While the handle tapers in the same direction as a Sleeveboard, the square-ends are a significant difference in my opinion. It could be a variant of several patterns. An added complication is that the Sheffield cutlers don't always name patterns in the same way as BRL. I must admit to being thoroughly confused and stumped with this one!

Here's an old John Petty Sleeveboard Penknife anyway, though sadly without the barrel

 

[screened porch]

2 7/16" closed.

 

[wlfryjr]

Thanks for posting your knives fellas. Some of my friends read only this "Old Knives" thread on BFs.

I've posted this one elsewhere,but it is old.

AF Shapleigh. The AF Shapleigh name began in 1863 and the DE trademark began in 1864.This Empire made DE is much heftier than the later Empire made DE below.No diamond shield. c. 1880s or early 90s.

Later Shapleigh Hdwe Co DE

The Empire knife with Empire "trademark" shield

These are all on the same Empire frame. Along with the Schrades, some of the largest typical farmers jacks I have found in this pattern at 4 1/8". The largest I know of in a "typical" farmers jack pattern ,is a Joseph Rodgers ,coming in at whopping 4 1/4". I don't know if all JRs were always that large ? Wostenholm marginally,but noticeable, increased the frame size from that prior 1890.

 

[smiling-knife]

Great old knives everyone. It's always a pleasure to see knives from your collection Lyle.

A Vailsburgh Cutlery Co NJ lobster. I've not found much information on this company. Goins' book list it as 1875-1900. Any further information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 

[RobbW]

Lyle, you have some really amazing Farmer Jacks in your collection -- many in outstanding condition. I appreciate the depth and range of your collection, and your ability to track changes over time with the many brands/makers. That makes for interesting and meaningful history.

smiling-knife, outstanding! You also have some real gems and I love your focus on Gent's knives, Orange Blossoms and Lobsters. Thanks for sharing!

 

[TsarBomba]

A. W. Wadsworth & Son, Germany






Southington Cut. Co.

 

[Rostovsky]

tourist

 

[67nick]

Beauties as always Lyle, awesome jigging on that second DE!

TsarBomba, super cool barlow and great character!

 

[TsarBomba]

TsarBomba, super cool barlow and great character!

Thanks! :thumbup: The jigging on that bone is particularly interesting, looks like classic pickbone that was deep enough to withstand the ravages of time and pocket wear. Still plenty of life left in that little fella.

 

[Campbellclanman]

Tsar- like Nick said- very neat old Barlow. Whew- imagine the use and carry it's had.

S-K that's a very nice little Lobster!

 

[TsarBomba]

Tsar- like Nick said- very neat old Barlow. Whew- imagine the use and carry it's had.

The history on that knife must be astounding. It surely was an XLNT find.

 

[galvanic1882]

S-K, in Philip Pankiewicz's book on NJ cutley page 152 states that Vailsburg was an independent borough in NJ that was annexed into Newark in 1905 so your knife could have been made before that. Unfortunately there is no other info on the company. Wish I could have been of more help with it. great looking knife though!!

 

[67nick]

I pulled this one out to take a few pics for the DE thread but quickly remembered I had something a little more interesting and better suited for the Old Knives thread... Here's a nice old whittler from a renowned Sheffield cutler during their stateside era. A.J. JORDAN CUTLERY CO. - A.J. Jordan St. Louis - 1878-1926

 

[Gevonovich]

Outstanding, Nick!! What a gem:thumbup:

 

[67nick]

Thanks Gev, I always appreciate your positive comments!