"Old Knives"

[black mamba]

Thanks, Duncan, it's quite hard, but not very "plasticy" if you know what I mean, more like very hard rubber, like an old bowling ball.

 

[eisman]

Both Gutta Percha and hard rubber were used but not much after the 1920 for GP, and I've never seen a post WWII with the black rubber. Be careful with those as some modern solvents will make them "sticky" and ultrasonic cleaning will tear them apart.

 

[Campbellclanman]

Yeah Jeff I do know what you mean - that’s why I couldn’t place a name to it, thank you eisman for the information.

Hard to describe- it’s defin a Composite- I am sure that it’s not a Black Delrin - well if it is - never have I seen it referred to as such by anyone - but there’s all ways room for improvement

I guess you could say it’s exactly what Case used with their black handles?

Actually Jeff - LF&C with their “Perfect Stag” Black Composite - that I think would be an exact match with what you have there.

 

[black mamba]

Thanks, fellas, always great info on the Old Knives thread!

 

[Campbellclanman]

Jeff Sir, here is that LF&C Composite I was telling you about, I would put money on it that it's the same material....

This is a stunning Whittler gifted to me by our one and only Herder.......( Many thanks again Herder Sir )..

Moulded to imitate Stag..

 

[black mamba]

Beauty, Duncan. I don't think mine is nearly that old, but it looks like the same material.

 

[E40]

I found these in my late stepfathers collection of knives - collection of users, NRA, North American Hunting club and other assorted "knives". I know they are fairly old, but not uncommon. The Zippo knife I thought was interesting. Apparently that company had something to do with tobacco production. Figuring I might put them amongst my old decoys and shell boxes as decorations.

 

[E40]

A couple more old knives. This is made by COLONIAL, RI, USA Some sort of promo knife I would assume.
This is my great grandfather's name and where he lived. Also appears to be a promo knife, made by "N.C. Co. CANTON,O" so again, assuming, made by a company in Canton Ohio.


Made by Imperial, RI, USA. I guess some people know that it has a rolling pin that locks the blade if you close it in a vertical position. Turn it 180 degrees, press the blade down to release pressure, pin rolls out and blade will open. Pretty cool.

Victorinox, Switzerland

Old Camillus. Says "Camillus" over "New York"

 

[herder]

Herder. I really like seeing old knives with their original packaging, I think it adds a lot to the knife.

This New Holland Barlow is a prime example. Duncan generously gifted it to me at the 2017 Rendezvous, the packaging shows they were given away by New Holland dealers for stopping by and looking at new equipment, looks like the were mailed to the customer after the visit. The penny dates from 1966.

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Thanks, and very neat to see the knife and card together, and from a great guy to boot!!!

Here's a comparison of 2 Ulsters, a Robeson (the one I bought from CNoyes), and of all things, a Case XX!!! Wish I had an HSB!!

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Beautiful knives, and quite interesting to see and compare them together.

thank you Kev matey, and thank you Gev my friend!
Kev- What a great selection of old Barlows!
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Two of my favourite Camillus Jacks...

Wonderful examples, and Happy Belated Birthday my friend!!! I can't believe that you are 30 already.

Those are 2 Great Camillus Jacks right there Duncan!

The 2 knives with the square and flush joints are Sheffield made and old enough, I thought, to be re-posted again here. I'm reasonably certain they are posted several hundred pages back. But for a Birthday boy....er MAN... I will post them again.
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As you can now see they have horn covers!

Dave

Always enjoy seeing Sheffield examples.

Stamped ULSTER over USA on the mark side, and 18S on the pile side. Handles are black synthetic (Bakelite? Delrin?), so I'm thinking 1950s-'60s. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated, as always!

Your knife dates to the 1960s era and was the last of the pruner models from Ulster. Ulster pruners from post-WWII through the 1950s had bails which were eliminated around 1960.
Enclosed is a catalog cut which Ulster describes as having "Black Stagged Plastic Handles".

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[black mamba]

Great info, herder, much appreciated!

 

[herder]

Great info, herder, much appreciated!

Glad to help and that's a fine old knife which is over 50 years old.

 

[waynorth]

Thanks for that Ulster information, herder. Do you (or does anyone else) know when Ulster was last stamped on a knife, after the Baers bought them out??

 

[herder]

Thanks for that Ulster information, herder. Do you (or does anyone else) know when Ulster was last stamped on a knife, after the Baers bought them out??

Goins states that Ulster was dropped around 1972 which I think is about right.
I believe they were still stamping the Ulster name on knives at least until 1970 or 1971, and probably right to the end around 1972.
There also were some Camillus made scout knives which bear the Ulster name dating to 1984 / 1985.

 

[waynorth]

Thanks, herder. There seem to be a lot of Ulster-stamped scout knives in existence. I wonder if anyone has studied them to determine which were made respectively at Ulster, Schrade, Camillus or wherever?? It would make an interesting study!!

 

[lambertiana]

This is my great grandfather's name and where he lived. Also appears to be a promo knife, made by "N.C. Co. CANTON,O" so again, assuming, made by a company in Canton Ohio.
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Novelty Cutlery Co, Canton, OH. You could send them pictures of loved ones, business logos, or whatever else you wanted, and they would put in under clear celluloid for your knife handle.

 

[E40]

Novelty Cutlery Co, Canton, OH. You could send them pictures of loved ones, business logos, or whatever else you wanted, and they would put in under clear celluloid for your knife handle.

Thanks for the information. He never seemed like the type of person who would have done this, but I only knew him as a grumpy old man!

 

[Augie]

Have this New York Knife Co Hammer Brand Jack in the hard rubber, I can't recall seeing another NYK in this material.

 

[r8shell]

Bokers Corn Knife

The lettering is there, although faded. I just noticed that the "R" in Bokers is crossed by the "S" to make "Rx", which is fitting for a scalpel.

 

[black mamba]

Good stuff, Augie and r8shell. I just acquired this nice Camillus #12 medium jack from the late '40s.
Would you call this Rogers bone, or what?

 

[paulhilborn]

Nice one Jeff, Augie and r8shell!!! Jeff, I'd call it Rogers bone but I am not the source of knowledge