One question...

Jamesh Bond said:
But things have gotten out of hand. He has already patiently requested we stay on topic numerous times. He isn't throwing judgments or disses, he just wants to see who shares his feelings on the matter.

Give the guy some respect and let him get the responses he asked for.
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Good Call Jamesh. Roger Wilco.
Koar You have my sincerest apology for the dig, I felt like all hunters were being thrown in a "catagory" that we don't all belong in and wanted to have you to experience the same feeling. :foot:
Also I've been bouncing in and out of Whine & Cheese and kind of forgot where I was. Apologies... And thanks Mr Bond for the call. :o
 
kaor said:
No offence guys but is here on this forum anyone who dont have pleashure killing animals, who is just big fan of bushcraft and wilderness without any conection with hunting?
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I enjoy being out in the woods, and communing with nature.. If I happen to bag a duck or 2 along the way, great! If not, it no loss!

THIS is what gives me pleasure!

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I don't hunt, but I'd have no problem eating some critter if I ever had to. I do enjoy camping, hiking, bushcraft techniques, guns (target shooting), and related stuff. I've never hunted because I grew up in a family of non-hunters. Hunting seem to be a thing you're introduced to young as a family tradition. If a friend invited me along on a hunt, I'd go to try it.
 
magneto said:
You see kroa, you guys in Croatia have been settled there for what 6 or 7 million years? We came over here on a boat just a short time ago. Give us a few hundred years and then come back and check on us then. See if we have settled in yet and have become "civilized". Untill then, see ya!
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nah, only 14 hundred years ;) That wasnt nation related because here is the same :cool:
 
Jamesh Bond said:
My bad, man. I see what you are saying.

This dude's thread got completely hijacked.
Guys, we all shared our thoughts on why we believe in hunting. But things have gotten out of hand. He has already patiently requested we stay on topic numerous times. He isn't throwing judgments or disses, he just wants to see who shares his feelings on the matter.

Give the guy some respect and let him get the responses he asked for.
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Thanks for suport bro
 
Rescue Mike said:
I enjoy being out in the woods, and communing with nature.. If I happen to bag a duck or 2 along the way, great! If not, it no loss!

THIS is what gives me pleasure!

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Um. Sweet!:eek:
 
Take a well adjusted kid out into the wilderness and help him/her bag a deer, pack it back to civilization, process it, store it properly, cook it and finally eat it and ask him if he has a better appreciation for life...

Thats how it happened for me, I never really had an understanding of how food got to the table until I was about 18 and killed my first game animal, changed my life. I would never waste food now, knowing the pain that animal went through for my sustanance.

I get NO pleasure from killing, none. The excitement I feel in a kill is in the knowlege that my children will have food on their plates.

As far as the match-up being "unfair", I would much rather see a whitetail shot with a .308 rifle, and go down cleanly, than jump on his back with a knife and stab him to death, that sounds kinda inhumane to me.

Koar, I agree with you in the fact that killing for a trophy, and wasting the meat and usable parts of the animal is wrong, but I really feel that if every child was given the opportunity to hunt, they would have a much better respect for life and death.
 
Its bizarre the way I can make a post, and then be accused of saying the exact opposite of what I actually said. Once again, for the record, I have no problem with killing animals for food - whether its done in the wilds with a .308or in a slaughterhouse with a bolt to the head. If in the course of getting the food people receive enjoyment and pleasure, thats fine. I also have no problem with animals being culled for environmental or other reasons.

What I absolutely cant stand is people killing animals such as bears, lions, elephants, rhinos etc. that are NOT eaten, just so they can take a photo of themselves with it or cut its head off and mount it on the wall.
 
Hey Guys...

TLC...

I understand Exactly what you are saying,, however,, as I said Bushcraft walks hand in hand with killing animals...Theres no way of denying it,, or skirting around it,, it's absolute fact...

That doesn't mean that if you practice bushcraft that you have to kill animals..You can practice bushcraft and survival and live off the land without killing animals thats for sure...

Traps, trapping as well as fishing, and different ways of fishing, including the use of fish and animal parts including skins, tendons and such, are HUGE parts of bushcraft.

So it only makes sense,, that Killing animals being part of Bushcraft,, that it would walk hand in hand with Bushcraft, whether you choose to partake in it,, is a moot point..

I choose to hunt, not only for food,, there are many reasons why I choose to hunt.

I also believe that I'm doing what I was designed to do, and that I do the ecology and environment a favor..

We have,, ummm had a rabbit problem here at the house...

Two years ago rabbits ate all the bushes around the house,, as well as next door.. Bushes which some costs some serious money...

Two years later,, No more rabbits, and bushes survived the winter...
No more problem,, and there was lots of cotton tail pie on the table...

The circle of life...
Nothing wrong with that....

As for the deer..

Yaa they are beautiful....

However....

If populations aren't kept in check, you get what happens in Michigan..
54,000 Yes Thousand, deer/car collisions in One Year!

Again,, if they aren't kept in check you get problems like Chronic Wasting Disease.. A Really nice little disease that takes care of the deer in it's own nasty little way...

Hunters keep these number in check,, plain and simple...

ttyle

Eric
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Ho Kaor,

Hope things are going well in Croatia, heard there were some hard times there...

In response to your first question, I have been on many more hikes than hunts and the hunting I do is killing. Make no mistake, I hunt boars, I hate them, I skin them and eat them. I give my dad the skulls and he loves stocking his cabin with them. I do it because when I was a kid a hog killed my dog just outside of Hollister, I was 8. Now as a man I relish killing them by stalk hunts, dog hunts and I have killed them with a bow, spear, knife and my favorite a seven and one half in .454 Casull Super Redhawk. I have only killed two other types of animals packrats and feral dogs. Neither of which am I particularly proud of. But back to the hogs, you should save up and come out to Ca., I would put you up for a week and we could have a blast making primitive shelters and stalking Kermits wife.

I see you took alot of BS here about grammar, look past that and get back to the root of your question which was a pretty good one.

Cheers.
 
Hey Guys...

kaor said:
why not hunt with paintball? You would have hunter feeling and there would be 1 more deer in woods :D
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Kaor...

Do you even understand the relationship between wildlife and hunters ??

Tell me what you think would happen if deer hunters in Canada and the US stopped hunting deer altogether ???

Not to mention Geese,(Snow and Canadian) black bears in northern Ontario and Doves and pideons in Argentina and Texas..

You don't understand,, because you don't have most of these animals or their problems where you live...

There are stretches of road where I can take a lawn chair and a coffee,, sit on the side of the road and wait for a deer to get slaughtered by a car or truck...

I'm sorry,, but you simply Don't understand what goes on....

If hunters stopped hunting it would be Utter Meyhem, and you would Seriously be risking your life going to work each morning....

ttyle

Eric
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Hey Guys...

Chef....

The Chef said:
you should save up and come out to Ca., I would put you up for a week and we could have a blast making primitive shelters and stalking Kermits wife.
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If he doesn't take you up on that,, I Will!!!!

I'd love a chance to send some High Speed aluminum through some Porkies!!!

I'll Bring the beer.... :)

ttyle

Eric
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Hey Fonly..

Moose you say...

I wonder what a Moose does to a car travelling at 80-100kph ??

Lets have a look shall we...

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Nice Eh....!

Wonder if the person survived ??

I know my wife's co-workers Grandparents Didn't!!!


ttyle

Eric
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Normark said:
Hey Guys...

Chef....



If he doesn't take you up on that,, I Will!!!!

I'd love a chance to send some High Speed aluminum through some Porkies!!!

I'll Bring the beer.... :)

ttyle

Eric
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I am always serious about that send me email and I'll give you a months notice before we do anything. THe only drawback this year is starting a new job so the time off may be a hassle.
 
runningboar said:
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The guy with the goofy look on his face is me, the pretty one is Rusty, the coon catchinest treeinest little dog you ever saw. Those four bloody furry things were mine and Rusty's supper the next evening. I don't feel a bit bad about it, and although I haven't asked him, I am pretty sure he doesn't either. I would rather hunt, kill and prepare my meat anyday than get it at a disgusting slaughter house. Chris
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This brings back some great memories for me way back when.. Thanks for that Chris!..

Blessings~:cool:
 
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