One question...

[David E]

I'm gonna get burnt real bad for this. I think that hunters aren't in it for the experience at all. I think hunters are really just looking for an excuse for killing something when they say theyre doing it to spend time outdoors or to practice bushcraft and food preparation. You can do all those things without killing something, and if youre craving meat, get it from a store. It's already dead so you arent killing anything else for your meal.
I believe that animals have feelings too, didn't you guys watch Bambi ???

This has GOT to be the stupidest thing I ever read....

YOU are the coward for hiring someone ELSE to kill your meat for you.

Didja know that "Bambi" was a CARTOON ????

wow.........

 

[Fonly]

I'm gonna get burnt real bad for this. I think that hunters aren't in it for the experience at all. I think hunters are really just looking for an excuse for killing something when they say theyre doing it to spend time outdoors or to practice bushcraft and food preparation. You can do all those things without killing something, and if youre craving meat, get it from a store. It's already dead so you arent killing anything else for your meal.
I believe that animals have feelings too, didn't you guys watch Bambi ???

haha your right, but like your name, you are a penis

 

[Fonly]

oh yeah, and your wrong

 

[kr1]

I'm gonna get burnt real bad for this. I think that hunters aren't in it for the experience at all. I think hunters are really just looking for an excuse for killing something when they say theyre doing it to spend time outdoors or to practice bushcraft and food preparation. You can do all those things without killing something, and if youre craving meat, get it from a store. It's already dead so you arent killing anything else for your meal.
I believe that animals have feelings too, didn't you guys watch Bambi ???

Your kidding right? Every time you buy a steak or order a hamburger your saying kill me another cow.

You don't see the connection?

KR

 

[Fonly]

obviously not, man he has one long trolling life.

 

[EmsRescueGuy]

I believe that hunting Like camping and Hiking are about connecting with a more primative side of us. I know that hunting is not necissary as part of our modern existance but to be honest neither is sex. I mean we could Just donate sperm to a donated egg and mereley enjoy the company of the opposite sex without physical interaction or as has been suggested we could just take/ look at pictures of them.

Lust for the hunt, lust for sex its all related and all unessisary in our advanced world but I for one intend to engage in both until I am physically no longer able.

 

[Rescue Mike]

Mike,

Is that really you?

DAMN!!!!


Doc

Doc.. No, that's not me.. I do skydive, but am not qualified as a tandem.. But it does accurately illustrate my point.. That's what the girls who skydive LOOK LIKE!! Aerodynamic as hell! And skydiving gives me pleasure.. As do those fine-respectable-upstanding.. ... Young women..


Can we kill this thread before I have to bust out the newly finished faux-poon, and give the trolls a taste of SRM (Skunk/Rescue Mike) Steel!!

 

[penls]

Your kidding right? Every time you buy a steak or order a hamburger your saying kill me another cow.

You don't see the connection?

KR

they dont go " hey penls wants a hamburger lets go kill a cow " , slaughterhouses killa a whole lotta stuff and hope that someone buys it.
I dont even eat meat that much, If I went vegetarian, I woudnt miss meat at all.

my point was that going out and killing stuff is kinda pointless.
And I only do my trolling in W&C now.

 

[EmsRescueGuy]

I'm gonna get burnt real bad for this. I think that hunters aren't in it for the experience at all. I think hunters are really just looking for an excuse for killing something when they say theyre doing it to spend time outdoors or to practice bushcraft and food preparation. You can do all those things without killing something, and if youre craving meat, get it from a store. It's already dead so you arent killing anything else for your meal.
I believe that animals have feelings too, didn't you guys watch Bambi ???

Obviously you have never hunted !
I wonder do you Fish? Do fishermen just like to kill ?

Bambi is a movie and you need to realize that Do you feel bad when you see an auto wrecking yard after seeing the movie Cars.

Its time for reality. Hunters go afield and enjoy nature, they enjoy learning about animal behavior and tracking, they enjoy a successful hunt but they will also enjoy telling the tale of the "One that got away"

And yes they enjoy that moment when the quarry comes into veiw, the heartracing experience of drawing a bead as adrenaline courses through you in the fight or flight reflex. They enjoy knowing that a kill was clean and the pride of success.

To say that a hunter enjoys killing is to say that you enjoy having animals WHACKED because you like to eat meat. after all thats what you are doing paying someone else to kill because you don't want to get your hands dirty.

I eat meat, I buy it from stores, I have no illusions about how it got there. I wish that time and lifestyle would allow me to hunt/fish all of my food since at least then I could be assured of a humane kill. Can you be sure, that all the meat you eat was killed in a humane manner.

I really hope that your post was just designed to start an argument and you are really not that IGNORANT!!

 

[penls]

ok ok sorry if I offended anyone. And the bambi thing was a joke.

I was not trying to make anyone stop hunting.I didnt expect to.
But I wont go hunting anytime soon.

 

[penls]

haha your right, but like your name, you are a penis

thats right :thumbup:

 

[MONKEYAZZ]

I am a hunter I grew up in the woods my dad is a hunter as is my brothers. Recently my daughter has asked me why I hunt and I have to say that I have a hard time giving her a good reason besides I enjoy it. I sure don't have to. And I think there is a difference between livestock raised for food and wild game. Also there are some animals that I would never hunt ie. Grizzly, cougar, lions and most other African mammals, don't know why but I must be getting soft in my old age.
I sure would like to go stick a Boar and watch some dogs do there thing though.
I will continue to hunt and fish but I can respect someone else's view.

 

[EmsRescueGuy]

they dont go " hey penls wants a hamburger lets go kill a cow " , slaughterhouses killa a whole lotta stuff and hope that someone buys it.
I dont even eat meat that much, If I went vegetarian, I woudnt miss meat at all.

my point was that going out and killing stuff is kinda pointless.
And I only do my trolling in W&C now.

But They Do Kill For You

Again you show your ignorance.

Its called supply and demand. If you dont eat the meat they will raise less cows and kill less cows because they do it for profit and wont simply produce beef if the market does not exist.

Your really arent a "Big Picture" guy are you.

If hunting is pointless than so is camping, hiking, and every other activity that effect nature without "need"

If you took the time to read any of these posts you would see that hunting is about so much more than killing and just because you dont see the point doesent mean there isnt one.

 

[Cobalt]

I cannot believe this crap........

HUNTING IS NECESSARY...PERIOD

Overpopulation is a serious problem, hunting is population control. I do not hunt these days as I am too busy, but I have had to kill to survive and there is no better form of concentrated food than meat.

Do I like killing animals? no way, but it is necessary. You think it's terrible popping cute squirrels? Well, if those squirrels weighed 20 lbs they'd be hunting you...


Also, don't tell everyone that you don't believe in killing animals and then go get a HAMBURGER or go get a Deli Sandwich or get lunch meats, tuna, chicken, etc. Because all you are is a, well you know.. Hell you should not even eat eggs as thy are baby animals

I could live on this guy for a month

 

[ROCK6]

I really can't believe some of these comments. I've been all over this country and South America where I've seen hunting as a family-event, a simple way to spend time with good friends, an essential way to supplement the food-stores, a necessary requirement to cull an over-populated area or two protect livestock and even strictly for sport. I have friends and acquaintances that don't hunt and don't like hunting...that's their opinion and I respect that; conversely, they don't push their beliefs on me and expect me to give up hunting.

Hey, I don't like gambling and there's plenty of evidence that it's as addictive as alcohol or other drugs, and has ruined plenty of families...do you see me advocating that all gambling should be illegal and those that gamble are only doing it to ruin families??? That's absurd.

I have never run across a fellow hunter who was just a blood-thirsty barbarian simply looking to kill for the pleasure...you've mistaken "hunters" with serial killers and you've been watching too much Hollywierd propaganda.

Hell, I would argue that the majority of hunters are the best stewards of the outdoors and the wildlife. While "bush-craft" and "hunting" may not necessarily be a symbiotic relationship, they easily and quite often cross paths. If you can't accept that, than throw man into the wild kingdom and we become just another predator in the circle of life...there's other animals that will kill for other reasons than hunger: protecting their young, protecting their territory, establishing dominance, fighting for breeding rights, bad tooth-ache!!!

Hunting has a longer heritage than farming. Those that bash hunters for such ignorant reasons are just to impotent to look themselves in the mirror and say "I'm a lover not a hunter"...hunting is only a bad thing because they don't understand it and can't accept others with a different view.

For myself and my family, hunting, fishing and trapping are all just parts of being outdoors. We've done many hikes and trips where we just point out good fishing holes, great places to hunt from or establishing active game trails. I enjoy wild game and fowl both alive an on the dinner table or over the camp fire. Those that attach taboo criteria to their outdoors experience will soon forget its importance and enjoyment because they will only be pointing out the hiker with a big knife, the hunter with a rifle over a bow, catch and keep verse catch and release...You may keep your beliefs, just keep your asinine opinions of others to yourself as long as their actions don't personally attack you.

Maybe I'm just tired of working 15 hour days, 7 days a week here in Iraq...missed hunting season, will miss the beginning of fishing season, and won't get any spring hiking/camping in with the family this year:grumpy:

You should just be happy you have the freedom to choose what you like and dislike, what you can do and where you can go...quit debating nonsense and go enjoy the outdoors in your own way.

ROCK6

 

[kaor]

Ho Kaor,

Hope things are going well in Croatia, heard there were some hard times there...

In response to your first question, I have been on many more hikes than hunts and the hunting I do is killing. Make no mistake, I hunt boars, I hate them, I skin them and eat them. I give my dad the skulls and he loves stocking his cabin with them. I do it because when I was a kid a hog killed my dog just outside of Hollister, I was 8. Now as a man I relish killing them by stalk hunts, dog hunts and I have killed them with a bow, spear, knife and my favorite a seven and one half in .454 Casull Super Redhawk. I have only killed two other types of animals packrats and feral dogs. Neither of which am I particularly proud of. But back to the hogs, you should save up and come out to Ca., I would put you up for a week and we could have a blast making primitive shelters and stalking Kermits wife.

I see you took alot of BS here about grammar, look past that and get back to the root of your question which was a pretty good one.

Cheers.

Thanks for invitation my friend. Things in Croatia are really good, war is far behind us (12 years passed). Good thing for me that in Croatia bears and wolfs are protected by the law ( we had around 136 wolf but they made new highway few years ago so some % of wolf went pass our borders ). Ppl hunt deers here, wildboars, and stuff like that. I have little weekendhouse on country side all my life so I growup at that part to. few years back I used to see deers eating grass now and then and that was great scene for me. Now is less and less and thats hurting me to be honest. I supose that in states population of wildanimals is bigger at the moment, but with human population growing up Im afraid that my grandchild will see deer only in ZOO or on Discovery channel.

Here si photo I took from my weekend house last winter

http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jog31gs9.jpg

 

[foxyrick]

I love the sound of roast, wild boar! It's making my mouth water. I've got some supermarket-bought, frozen pork chops in the oven right now - I'll try to use a lot of imagination when I eat them!

Personally, I would much *rather* eat an animal that has lived its life naturally in its own environment, then been hunted for food, as is the nature of, well, nature. Not a poor, farm raised thing that's never known its own freedom, been pumped full of antibiotics and other chemicals, has been herded into a truck and had to endure the terrified sounds of the animals in front of it in the meat-processing queue. Which animal has suffered most? I would think the farm-bred one. Unfortunately (for the animals) there are so many people on the planet that farming animals is an absolute necessity.

Humans are omnivores; scientific fact. The only hunting I have ever done is fishing; and I don't do that any more as I very rarely ate what I caught. If I lived where wild boar were around, I would love to hunt and eat them. My personal philosophy though would be to only kill what I (and friends) could eat unless there was a good reason like population or pest control.

I love to watch animals *living*, stalking to get a better view. I really respect and enjoy life in all its forms. There is no conflict here with killing for food; that's the way of nature. Animals do it to each other and we are just more advanced, omniverous animals.

Good luck with the boar hunting; I wish I could join you.

Rick.

 

[RescueRiley]

Looks like a nice place... Very similar to the area ofthe catskills in NYS where I grew up...I've heard many great things about the croation wilderness, I watched a special on tv about a forest of a thousand waterfalls...It was pretty nice.. Despite expansion and development here in the us our ecology is quite different in regards to animal populations... Deer (at least on the eastern sea board" are practically everywhere from the forests an parks, to the mall Parkinglot where I saw a familly of them yesterday... I don't typically hunt dear ( as I am the only person in my house who currently eats game animals, and one deer to feed one person is a lot be and I'd get bored after 3 weeks of venison... That's just me though no offense to anyone else... I prefer to hunt smaller game such as game birds, and rabbits. (which despite modern firearms) can be very challenging..Millions of years of evolution has equipped most game animals with a remarkable arsenal of senses, and attibutes that help to avoid thier natural predators, (which are much more sucessful and efficient than myself) also the game laws here in the US are very closely tied to conservation efforts and hunting is closely regulated in an effort to maintain healthy wildlife populations in regard to thier respective environment....

 

[runningboar]

It is a little known fact that the word vegetarian is an old indian word, it's original meaning was "lousy hunter".

 

[Irezumi]

No, I'm not a vegan, and neither am I a vegetarian. I just dont take pleasure in killing wild animals for the fun of it. To me the problem with hunting is that its a rigged fight - a guy comes along with a powerful rifle, the animal's wandering along doing its own thing and then it gets taken down without having a chance to fight back. I also hate things which involve deliberately tormenting animals, such as bullfighting or the running of the bulls in Pamplona - and I actually like it when the a-holes who torment the bulls get gored by them.

What I like is a fair fight, for example boxing, MMA, bjj, subgrappling etc. between two consenting, well trained and evenly matched fighters.

I have to agree with this to some extent. I love eating meat but cannot stand it when people go sport shooting with a high powered rifle. As I have mentioned on the forums before, I am a big fan of those who go hunting with a bow and eat what they kill. Some people think that is more cruel than a rifle, but I think it gives the prey more chance and only the skillful get to eat. I don't think badly of those who hunt with a rifle though, I just cannot stand trophy shooters. Eat your kill and use all of it that you can, and never take more than you need.