Paramilitary refinement - need input

Even thought I want a 4 way clip I am torn. I so love the clip screws in a circle around the pivot. That almost makes it the Paramilitary. :) I love how the clip is designed on the current one and I love the way it sticks out of the pocket. It's easy to get out of your pocket. I don't like low ride clips.

Keep the blade to handle ratio. It's perfect. Back lock may be ok but I think it may make it not a Para. ;)

I love the compression lock myself.

Keep the milled part of the blade as the detent. It is much better than a ball detent I think.

Get rid of the swell in the center of the handle so you don't need to use the choil. With a handle this large you should not need to use the choil. It's not comfortable however with the sweel in the middle. ;)

I think if I had the choice of changing too much or not changing anything I'd just leave it along. You can ruin a good thing with too much change.

Thanks for even asking. :thumbup:
 
1. 4 way low ride clip

2. Liner or frame lock

3. 2.9" blade

Thanks for asking your customers for advice.
 
Sal, this could be the "CRK type Ti framelock" knife that's being talked about. Low ride clip, up/down adjustable. Also the handle mods that everyone has posted about. Thanks for asking us.:thumbup:
 
Hi Sal,

The Para is a tremendous knife, but there are a few refinements that would be welcome.

1. I'd love to see a low ride clip. As it is, the Para sits far too high out of the pocket. Even better, I'd love to see a low ride wire clip. The current pocket clip scrapes the heck out my furniture, greatly irritating my beloved wife.

2. The ergonomics are good, but could use improvement. The mid-handle hump feels a little odd, as well as the hook on the end.

3. I'd love to see the older Military style jimping on both the spine and the finger choil.

4. I'd love to see a more positive method of keeping the blade in the closed position. The current detent just isn't strong enough to support tip-up carry, and barely enough to support safe tip-down carry.

5. More pocket clip mounting options are never a bad thing.

6. I love the compression lock. But as others have mentioned, tighter QC on the lock may be necessary.

7. If the pocket clip remains black, could we please have screws that stay black in color? The current painted screws look like heck after just a week of carry.

7. A slightly longer finger choil would be a nice bonus.

8. Please don't change the blade/handle ratio. That ratio is what makes the Para so great.

Please take these as purely constructive criticisms. I truly believe that the Para is already the best midsized tactical folder yet made.
 
I have ced my para for 3 months
( and it gets used hard on the farm). I see no problems other than tip down only carry option. I don't know if it would work or is possible for the para
(native maybe) but I would like to see a spyderco version knife of the " carson flipper" knife that crkt uses.
 
I haven't bought a Para because of the tip down clip only mounting so my comments are on knives I have handled not used.

The 4 way clip would be great on most of your knives, love to see this happening with Spyderco.

The compression lock on the 4 Para's I have handled has been perfect to way to sticky to operate without a sore forefinger. I love the compression lock just not if it's sticky.

The lower riding clip is another must, that clip rides way to high for my liking.

With the 4 way clip option the thumb ramp needs to be smooth if not the side of your hand will get tore up.

After handling the Para I can live with the odd handle to blade ratio as it looks wierd but feels very comfortable.

The blue G10 would be a neat option but not necessary. Perhaps a sprint run with a S125V blade? Please!

Thanks for asking for our input Sal, your close customers relations are a breath of fresh.

Tom.
 
I don't want to hyjack the thread but how about a police model with G10 scales in BG42?:thumbup:
 
how about making a half titanium half g10 knife aka emerson hd7
you could make the lock out a compression lock still like the a.t.r
 
I don't have anything to add...but if it was available tip up from the start, I'd own one now. Glad to hear I have at least one tip up SE knife to look forward to.
Cheers,
Rob
 
I forgot one more important thing. My para and the others I've held opened too easily. As a tip down, I couldn't care less, but if we're going to tip up it, I want more resistance on average.
 
Just the 4-way, low-ride clip and Ti scales with a frame lock. Ti scales with the compression lock, would make me happy but the frame lock would make it my favorite.
 
I don't have a paramilitary or much interest in getting one In its current form, however if they came with a wire clip, possibly a better handle to blade ratio. A different style lock preferably ball bearing but anything would be good. And another scale color Black just doesn't do much for me. Ideally a would be a frame even a steal one, with a dark green T10 back scale would be great. My biggest turnoff is it seems like a very big knife because of the handle size even though it has a relatively short blade.
 
I should point out that I would much rather have NO CHANGES made to the current Paramilitary rather than have too many changes made.

;)
 
kgriggs8 said:
I . Improve the piviot. A loose blade makes the entire knife seem like junk. Make it a single screw adjustable as well. Who the heck has two tourqe drivers in that size just laying around? I know knife nuts will but your average knife buyer is not even going to know the pivit is adjustable let alone know how to adjust it. Even if he does, he is going to be pissed when he has to buy two special tools to do the job. He will probably have to make too trips like I did when I found that one wasn't enough.
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HOLY MOLY, I had not even noticed that!! :eek:


YES, I agree that needs to be changed, please!

I have A Blue Box, not TWO Blue Boxes... :(

(For now, it's a good thing I haven't had to do any adjustment of my Para's pivot.)

-Jeffrey
 
When I first got my Paramillie, I had anticipated that it would see the most time in daily carry rotation among my production pieces. I quickly realized that the security of the liner lockup could easily be compromised with the forefinger while the folder was held in the modified sabre grip- where the is thumb pressed onto the spine area immediately adjoining the scales and with forefinger wedged up tightly against the liner area. I was depressed. I soon deep sixed the Paramillie. Here is my input:

*RECESS the liner enough with respect to its corresponding scale so that the forefinger has much less chance of causing potential lockup disengagement!
*Deep carry pocket clip.
*User friendly blade pivot bolt.
*Get rid of that darn USELESS finger choil! If the blade' s edge was brought back FAR enough you wouldn' t need that finger choil to choke up with! A longer cutting edge essentially means a longer blade without lengthening the blade! Makes sense???

N.
 
Nakano 2 said:
When I first got my Paramillie, I had anticipated that it would see the most time in daily carry rotation among my production pieces. I quickly realized that the security of the liner lockup could easily be compromised with the forefinger while the folder was held in the modified sabre grip- where the is thumb pressed onto the spine area immediately adjoining the scales and with forefinger wedged up tightly against the liner area. I was depressed. I soon deep sixed the Paramillie.
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Um, what?

I can't hold my ParaMilitary in any functional way that seems to come close to inadvertently disengaging the lock. Not even when I tried to follow your description. I just don't see it. Can you post a picture of what you mean? And are you sure that this is a big enough issue to warrant design changes? -- as in, do you really need to hold the knife that way so much of the time?

I don't mean to diminish your apprehension about the knife. You apparently were concerned enough to get rid of it or stop carrying it or whatever. I feel the same way almost, about the pivot pin. (The anxiety of, "Where will I be when it loosens up and I can't just easily set it tight again?! :eek: )
I just have yet to grip the knife in a way that isn't okay with the lock.

-Jeffrey
 
I'm betting he's talking about the Military inadvertantly.

It also makes no sense to me. I don't think there is any way to accidentally disengage the compression lock. That's why I like it so much. :)
 
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