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PayPal F&F only ... REALLY???
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In fairness, that one's prices would be super competitive on a couple knives even with a 15% G&S premium, but it's too weird for me to bite.
Yeah, that one's got me stumped. I guess some folks aren't in any hurry to sell their knives. Folks here must have forgotten about all about GBU threads where someone got ripped off and paid with F&F.
Heck, it's an open market and people are entitled to price their goods any way that they see fit. I'm an all-up one-price G&S to your door guy.
It eliminates the guesswork, but my prices might be a little higher than some other's seem, until the "extras" (insurance, shipping and pp fees) are tallied up.
For my part, it's what I choose to do, but I don't do many transactions in the first place. I just want to make sure that everything is covered in the event that there is a problem, because the deal is not over until everyone is happy. Happy people on both sides of the deal is my goal, I'm not in this for profit.
Other people might have the same or different goals, and they have other ways of doing things. That's fine, too. I won't do F&F for goods, but won't lose sleep over others who do.
It eliminates the guesswork, but my prices might be a little higher than some other's seem, until the "extras" (insurance, shipping and pp fees) are tallied up.
For my part, it's what I choose to do, but I don't do many transactions in the first place. I just want to make sure that everything is covered in the event that there is a problem, because the deal is not over until everyone is happy. Happy people on both sides of the deal is my goal, I'm not in this for profit.
Other people might have the same or different goals, and they have other ways of doing things. That's fine, too. I won't do F&F for goods, but won't lose sleep over others who do.
If after the calculations, the bottom line price is still a good deal, there will always be some interested buyers. However, I would also avoid dealing with an unknown seller that has a complicated sales presentation.
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I like it when people state F&F only: it quickly tells me who I shouldn't be dealing with.
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Oh yeah.
It's funny how I immediately stop looking at a posting if it says FF only or Net to me. Its second nature by now.
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I apologize if this is a repetition of something that may have been posted before. Why doesn't BF institute a policy that F&F can not be done here? Isn't it a matter of time before Lawyers on retainer from Paypal look for something to do? I really don't see why this is even a debatable issue. BF needs to protect it's own interest and avoid unnecessary risks.
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BF HAS THE SAME RISK AS A NEWSPAPER THAT PUBLISHES AN AD [REMEMBER THOSE?] SELLING SOMETHING TO BE PAID FOR F&F - NONE.
Because BF is not responsible for what the members do. It is a forum for us to share infirmation and our love of knives ... the sale forums are just a place member can sell buy or trade ... but how they do so is completely on the members.
And PayPal may very well check into some transactions ... but it is the individuals account they will lock and seek restitution from ... has nothing to do with BF.
But it is highly frowned upon by most members ... and if you just read through some threads in the GBU subforum it won't take long to see why.
That may be true in the past and maybe now. But just as some people who sell on the bay suddenly discovered that they can be taxed by their State, things can change. There's nothing for BF to gain by taking an unnecessary risk.
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Sure, the law may change. Selling knives for home delivery may become illegal as it is in the UK. Until then, none, nada, zip, zero.
So if we recognize that circumstances "may" change thereby putting BF in a position of liability, what then is the benefit for BF in not restricting the F&F practice on an open forum where the entire world can see it?
The content on the forums is BF responsibilty ... what individuals do on another site (PayPal) is not BF responsibilty ... the listing may be on here but the wrong doings and abuse of PayPal's policies are done in PayPal.
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I've been beating this horse for years...the response is always that it would take too much work to moderate
. I really think that a large banner announcement of the change coupled with some strict enforcement would solve the problem quickly. I've got no problem reporting F&F posts
I'm tempted to start a poll just for funsies..."Should BF ban F&F sales, yes or no?"
I have a pretty good feeling what the overwhelming response would be
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. I really think that a large banner announcement of the change coupled with some strict enforcement would solve the problem quickly. I've got no problem reporting F&F postsI'm tempted to start a poll just for funsies..."Should BF ban F&F sales, yes or no?"
I have a pretty good feeling what the overwhelming response would be
.~Chip
Correct, the content on the forums is BF's responsibility. And the for sale postings which openly violate paypal's policy are "content".
By allowing the practice of members posting F&F only and/or adding fees, BF is condoning that action. Which puts BF in a position of liability.
What sellers and buyers agree to outside of BF by private email is not BF's responsibility.
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