PayPal friends and family

Boru13 said:
Warning issued for insults, discuss the topic and not each other.
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Smiler said:
Damn your stupid, do you know me?
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:rolleyes:

Smiler said:
Its kinda scrary when youve baught many ”things” and cant get vouches.
Whos talking about fees?
I need to trust the person whos paying g&s. And sorry i dont trust you.
Whats not to understand about this?

And how can you manufacture vouches?
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "vouches". Sometimes when buying or selling, I will look at a poster's history in the discussion threads here at Bladeforums. It gives me a general idea of who they are, if they get along well with others, etc. I guess that's a kind of community "vouch". It may sway my decision as to whether to do business with them. Still has nothing to do with using Goods & Services on Paypal, though.
 
r8shell said:
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "vouches". Sometimes when buying or selling, I will look at a poster's history in the discussion threads here at Bladeforums. It gives me a general idea of who they are, if they get along well with others, etc. I guess that's a kind of community "vouch". It may sway my decision as to whether to do business with them. Still has nothing to do with using Goods & Services on Paypal, though.
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Something like that...
But we didnt talk here it was on IG.
And the knife wasnt listed for sale.

It has to do with trust...

If someone dont trust me get vouches from known collectors, makers and G&S is fine.
Easy!!!

I have no prob my self getting vouches from collectors/makers.
 
Salo said:
ive been chatting with someone about a knife I’m interested in and we’ve agreed upon a price but he is insisting I send the money through friends and family using the argument that I could scam him if I send it with goods and services. I even agreed to pay the PayPal fees and it’s perplexing.
I don’t feel like there’s ever a good reason to send a large sum of money with no buyer protection. The seller is a member on here and he has positive feedback but it still worries me. Thoughts anyone?
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Late to the party her, and I have been reading the insults....


But I'd never send payment friends and family..... unless I am sending the money to a friend....or family.....

If the seller is demanding friends and family, out them, and I'll add them to my ignore list.

I sent an offer on a knife just a few weeks ago. Seller messaged me for F&F. To save fees. I indicated I would send extra to cover....
Had he said no, and demanded F&F I would have moved on.
 
Salo said:
I’m superstitious. If I say then everyone will want it.
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Lol, it is just a knife.....I will write a promissory note that I will not want it..
Man this is better than movies......missing popcorn

philleee said:
Its funny how its the other way around if you're selling something. Then you shouldnt agree to g&s because the buyer could easily say that they never received the right item and claim the money back. I wouldnt sell something to someone g&s that no one could vouch for either! Maybe if Ive seen them around alot and they got a killer collection etc. Btw..go on to "killer customs and midtech maniac" group on Facebook and ask for vouches for yourself and thomas then. You'll probably get alot of vouches for thomas. He's a good guy and probably got one of the best collections in Sweden. But its up to both the buyer and the seller what they are willing to risk. I prefer g&s as much as the next guy if Im buying. Some people dont feel comfortable with that and only sell f&f. Which I get so in thoose cases I usually ask around to see if he's a good guy. Havent been scammed yet. Same thing if I sell stuff. If I dont know of the guy at all, and no one can vouch for him. No way in hell Im selling it g&s. I would rather keep my knife or sell it to someone else. Easy as that.
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jlauffer said:
I have these 20 vouches...what do I win?
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I have some belly lint....if you want it?
 
This is the first time in almost 20 years on bladeforums, the LEADING knife website on the internet, that i have ever heard of “vouches.”

Fortunately on a site like this where people are embedded in the community there is less of a likelihood of being scammed than on a site like instagram or facebook or reddit with the lack of investment in the hobby except profit.

This forum exists as “vouches” for buying and selling. If someone gets a bad reputation here it will follow them them to every other knife community on the web. Google any of the biggest scammers and thieves and BFC threads will be top hits.

Scuttling your reputation here is a bad idea.
 
https://www.bladeforums.com/help/exchange-rules/

Sellers/Selling -
  1. Be 100% sure that you want to sell the item, have it in your possession and clearly list the TOTAL selling price.
    • Paypal "friends & family" is STRONGLY DISCOURAGED. This is for your protection.
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Buyers/Buying -

8. Warning: You as a buyer are responsible for using Paypal as it was intended, according to their Terms of Service. Using the "Gift" option revokes any buyer protection you may have if something goes wrong and makes it easier to get scammed. Be smart and protect yourself, if you use gift and get scammed don't come crying to us about it as you've already been advised.
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The BF owner's position on the matter is clear. It goes along with the policy prohibiting discussion of illegal acts. If you violate PayPal policies you are breaking their laws. Since the deals made here are between individuals, misuse of PayPal can't be prohibited. However BF neither recommends nor supports such misuse.
 
And, if they would have just done the deal, I'm sure everything would have gone fine. But, instead, the OP, and Smiler, took us down a hole, and into a place, only the internet could create.

I was just thinking - maybe I shouldn't be thinking? :D - that if we didn't have some of these thieving bastards, like Balls to the whatever (Heath Helton), that there wouldn't be so much paranoia. By nature, unfortunately, I'm a bit paranoid, lol. :(:eek::p

Anyway, I thought I had a point, when I started this post, but, clearly I don't... Oh, wait, I don't think that either of these guys would screw anybody, if any of us did a deal, with them. However, I'm not saying that anybody should do a deal, with either of them, as I think that a knife acquisition should be tied to somebody we (maybe I'm reaching, and should say I?) feel a kinship with. Well, that's just my sentimental BS position, FWIW. :cool:
 
Smiler said:
Well he could have said he had someone to vouch when i asked...

But no!

We talked on Ig about this deal and no mention about other forums.


This got way out of proportion... il keep the knife for now.
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Probably wouldn't be a bad idea not to show your face around here again. We don't need folks like you around. Seeya!
 
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