Phill Hartsfield KWAIKEN - AIKUICHI - KOZUKA (VIDEO) New VIDEO Page 17

AVigil said:
If your kydex scratches it is either dirty or not made correctly :) Sand in a lined sheath can be a nightmare:mad:

I made this one and am not looking forward to making another, it works great but was super tricky to get right
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That is the part about Phill's work that commands respect, it is non-derivative....nobody before or since has made a copper core, lined with aluminum, wrapped in leather sheath...nobody. The idea is amazing, and proven to perform, but nobody even tries to run with it.

There is a massive disconnect...between ideas, craftsman and collector/user.

If nothing else, Joe is bringing attention to this.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
That is the part about Phill's work that commands respect, it is non-derivative....nobody before or since has made a copper core, lined with aluminum, wrapped in leather sheath...nobody. The idea is amazing, and proven to perform, but nobody even tries to run with it.

There is a massive disconnect...between ideas, craftsman and collector/user.

If nothing else, Joe is bringing attention to this.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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You are right. I have made a few and they are kinda pain but really make the slimest, streamlined sheath.
Here is one I made for my son

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Thank you, gentlemen.
Adam- May I send my Ronin back for a kydex sheath like this? ^
btw... sand, in any sheath, can be a nightmare.
rolf
 
There are multiple factors going on with a sheath. I understand that many recoil from Kydex, but I'm not quite sure in understand the derision, except if the sheath in question has been poorly made, or doesn't perform properly. A steel/aluminum/copper sheath is just as capable of marring a blade as a Kydex sheath is. Many of us HAVE thought out the design and intention of our sheaths, and to suggest that because we elect to use Kydex somehow proves we somehow lack vision or creativity seems, well... Absurd.

Joey is a martialist, through and through. He KNOWS how to handle himself, and a knife. As much as my knives will perform for someone such as him, he's NOT who I have in mind when creating my knives. I make my kwaiken for Everyman, who with just a little bit of practice can learn to properly carry and employ my knife to hopefully prevent others from entering into harm's way. In a perfect world, NO ONE would need this, and in a slightly less than perfect world, we would all have the training and discipline to properly defend ourselves.

The world I live in is far from either of these worlds.

The sheaths I make for these are lined, however that's only somewhat important to it's non-marring performance. It can also be held open and cleaned out, which NONE of the displayed sheaths can do. The lining serves to make blade drawing and carry ENTIRELY silent, and also aids in retention of the blade. It is also economical. This is crucial, as a quick calculation of what Mr. Hartsfield's version as advertised in 1982 translates into from inflation, by today's standards, is $863, or put another way, MORE THAN DOUBLE what I currently charge for my interpretation of this knife.

If anyone feels so strongly about a sheath that they're willing to pay me double the value of my knife for a sheath, I think we'll find a way to strike a deal, otherwise I'm pretty convinced that my sheath and carry method is perfectly viable. :D

...in order for me to replicate the 'feel' of RJ's sheath, I merely need to cover it in leather, btw. I still hold mine works as well or better, especially because mine can be cleaned. :)

I hear my roof calling.:mad:
 
Matt just glue leather on the outside of the kydex :)

For me it's how things feel

I have no issues with kydex as long as it has a liner and covered in leather :)

I want to see pics of the roof :)
 
Those are some fine looking blades!!! Mighty fine, and I see your point about the leather sheaths being an integral part of what sets these knives apart. Tactile feel and less rattle.

A Hartsfield or RJ martin could definitely find a home with me.

Thank you gentlemen for the knife porn. :thumbup:
 
JParanee said:
I want to see pics of the roof :)
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Foiled bubble and purlins on the front part, so far. Just found out I've got to cut two sections of roof out and insulate two HUGE areas with next to nothing in there. Always something...:D
 
Looking at Matthew Gregory's knives. Wow there is some quality work there as well. Very nice. :thumbup:
 
Lycosa said:
sand, in any sheath, can be a nightmare.
rolf
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This is true but if made correctly the sides of the blade never touch the sides of the kydex sheath and the only contact point is the handle and tip of the blade.

one of the thing I find extremely convenient with kydex is you can pour water in it to clean it out, wipe it dry and it does not retain moisture.

I make leather sheaths, kydex sheaths, metal sheaths, lined sheaths one thing they all have in common....I really dislike making sheaths :)
 
Matthew Gregory said:
There are multiple factors going on with a sheath. I understand that many recoil from Kydex, but I'm not quite sure in understand the derision, except if the sheath in question has been poorly made, or doesn't perform properly. A steel/aluminum/copper sheath is just as capable of marring a blade as a Kydex sheath is. Many of us HAVE thought out the design and intention of our sheaths, and to suggest that because we elect to use Kydex somehow proves we somehow lack vision or creativity seems, well... Absurd.
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Hey Matt, think you know me well enough to know that I was NOT calling you out on that specifically....had I been, it would have been something like "Matt Gregory, why are you so lazy that you don't make sheaths like Hartsfield"?:D

Phill was able to dictate the prices he charged for his work quite easily, very little of it went unsold, and it is staying pretty desirable on the aftermarket, which is always a good sign for the maker's work and stature in the knife world.

Your work by nature of how you make it and how you cover so many different styles, has not come into the massive radar field that Phill held....you can get there if you want, but I'm not even sure that is what you want.

If I were to get a knife from you made in the Hartsfield style, it would have to come with the Hartsfield style sheath, done right, and would send you my Hartsfield so you could look it over. I would be willing to pay whatever that price was, and any collector worth his salt would do the same.....and by doing so, that helps take your work to a higher level of craft, commerce and art.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Great video. Hartsfield knives certainly have character.

Is there a tutorial available on how to create a Hartsfield style sheath?
 
AVigil Is probable your best bet unless you wanted to reach out to Phil Hartsfield junior

Thank you for your kind words
 
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good fun, Joe! Diggin the history and the insight.
 
Thanks Bob

Again I can not stress the importance of the sheath in a knife system ........ At least to me :)
 
Alright you hero's.

I slammed the breaks on stuff today and did something for me :)

I ground my "Strongboy" tribute (I call my version RONIN) and it will be going to heat treat on Monday.

And for you Joe

I will make a metal sheath for it, did I mention I hate making sheaths :rolleyes:
 
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