Please help.

You type mighty white-collar for a 15-year-old.
I guess I just speak that way. But seriously, I have really bad ADHD, and I hate sitting still at a desk for hours on end. I hate school, and I don't want a job just like school. I like working with my hands; it gives me a sense of accomplishment.
 
Hell back in my day school WAS working with your hands! Auto shop, wood shop, art, drama...all that as well as the "three R's." And of course everyone's parents would be disappointed if their kids didn't keep their knives razor sharp. "A dull knife is the most dangerous," the parents would say.
 
Hell back in my day school WAS working with your hands! Auto shop, wood shop, art, drama...all that as well as the "three R's." And of course everyone's parents would be disappointed if their kids didn't keep their knives razor sharp. "A dull knife is the most dangerous," the parents would say.
Haha yeah they got rid of all that. I wish we still had it. I love whittling. I can't though, because I don't have a knife [emoji23]
 
We still had wood and auto. I wish we had metal shop. I had to teach myself how to operate a milling machine on my own... quite a learning curve when you are corrected by the "tink" of an expensive carbide endmill snapping.

I have no idea how school runs now. I graduated in 2000.
 
We still had wood and auto. I wish we had metal shop. I had to teach myself how to operate a milling machine on my own... quite a learning curve when you are corrected by the "tink" of an expensive carbide endmill snapping.

I have no idea how school runs now. I graduated in 2000.

No wood, auto, or metal around me. Hell, in college I about to graduate in engineering and they made me take Organizational Psychology instead of Database Administration. And this was in a top 5 nationally ranked program, no less.

Go figure, I'm sure the latter would never prove useful in engineering, right? /s
 
We still had wood and auto. I wish we had metal shop. I had to teach myself how to operate a milling machine on my own... quite a learning curve when you are corrected by the "tink" of an expensive carbide endmill snapping.

I have no idea how school runs now. I graduated in 2000.

Even the ones who go to school break their tooling. That's extra cost to the lessons they already paid for.
 
It's time to up the ante in this battle of parentnoia. OK, here's the plan: Show your dad and grandpa that you're going to turn into a vegan hipster if they continue to take your knives and/or suppress your manly blue-collar desires.

Start by wearing skinny jeans. Quickly work up to wearing mismatched plaids, then tighten up the screws by sweeping your hair over one eye. Practice bad posture and adopt a holier-than-thou attitude about everything. They'll cave like the locking mechanism on a batoned folding knife that's virtually as strong as a fixed blade.

Here's a visual aid to help them rethink their position:

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It's time to up the ante in this battle of parentnoia. OK, here's the plan: Show your dad and grandpa that you're going to turn into a vegan hipster if they continue to take your knives and/or suppress your manly blue-collar desires.

Start by wearing skinny jeans. Quickly work up to wearing mismatched plaids, then tighten up the screws by sweeping your hair over one eye. Practice bad posture and adopt a holier-than-thou attitude about everything. They'll cave like the locking mechanism on a batoned folding knife that's virtually as strong as a fixed blade.

Here's a visual aid to help them rethink their position:

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Maybe they're going to a picnic, the one on the right is carrying the blanket. What a guy.
 
Agree with her first to get her to listen!
Tell her your absolutely right mum it can be used as a weapon but i use it for my work.
Tell her that she has brought you up right and you wouldnt diappoibt her. Apologies for not informing her and in future you will make sure that you will.
 
I think the trick might be to, before going out to do your next gardening assignment, ask your mom for your work tools back.

I carry all sorts of stuff for work that you'd likely get arrested for without that simple "good reason" (as it is termed in UK law) of "for doing my job."
 
I live in California too... im positive you must be 18....
He's actually correct, you don't have to be 18 to buy a knife here. Some how, in all the crazy wording and nonsensical bias, they forgot that part lol. However you DO have to be 18 to purchase and carry pepper spray. So if you want your 16 year old daughter to be able to defend herself, you can forget that. Most (reasonable) shops won't sell to anyone under 18 without a parent though. We don't at our shop. In fact I made the mistake of handing a 15 year old kid a knife to look at. He said his dad lets him use and look at knives plus it was the Hest crow knife (collectors art piece). Suddenly I hear him say "That's why my mom always tells me to not play with knives..." and I look over to see that yes, he cut himself. Great... He won't accept a bandaid and leaves. 10min later, here comes a lady storming through the door dragging this kid with her. "Did you give my son a knife?!" I was able to finally calm her down and apologize profusely. Telling her I was an idiot to do so without a parent helped. She made him accept the bandaid and we actually joked around for a minute, then *amazingly* she let her clumsy son handle a couple more knives that he wanted to see. Couldn't believe it. Anyways, point being, yes its legal to sell to under 18, but if he hurts himself then its the parents you have to deal with. Needless to say, I don't even let them look at them without a parent and if they act a fool with it, they're done looking.
 
I remember when my youngest first asked about a knife of his own. We were on vacation in Jackson Hole and he found some cheap imports that he liked, some because they were tacticool, and others because they resembled some of mine. Said he wanted that to be his souvenir and wanted to start a collection. He was only 9 or 10 at the time. I was both proud and a little nervous at the same time. But he has been very responsible, and now has close to 40. When he turned 13, I got him a ZT566 which he thought was pretty cool. Then wanted to make a belt sheath for it because it was his best one of the pack. I talked him through the process, but he did all the work himself so he could apply it towards his scout leatherwork merit badge. Went surfing to find the style he wanted...something that looked like an old revolver holster. He drew his own pattern (took about ten renditions to get the sizing right). I was pretty dang proud to see the finished product. Here is what he came up with.

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I remember when my youngest first asked about a knife of his own. We were on vacation in Jackson Hole and he found some cheap imports that he liked, some because they were tacticool, and others because they resembled some of mine. Said he wanted that to be his souvenir and wanted to start a collection. He was only 9 or 10 at the time. I was both proud and a little nervous at the same time. But he has been very responsible, and now has close to 40. When he turned 13, I got him a ZT566 which he thought was pretty cool. Then wanted to make a belt sheath for it because it was his best one of the pack. I talked him through the process, but he did all the work himself so he could apply it towards his scout leatherwork merit badge. Went surfing to find the style he wanted...something that looked like an old revolver holster. He drew his own pattern (took about ten renditions to get the sizing right). I was pretty dang proud to see the finished product. Here is what he came up with.

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Impressive! Very nice work
 
Just tell your mom that I live in the land of fruits and nuts, have owned hundreds of knives. Sharpen them over the kitchen sink whenever. **gasp!** I use them to cut anything that needs cutting whenever it needs cutting...
Should we even go into the merits of gun ownership/shooting sports?

By her definition myself, even my wife is nuts.
Like I said before my 110lb 5'1" wife carries one in her pocket, and 2 in her purse at all times. She is an upstanding business person in the community. Anything from spreading peanut butter (sux to clean out of folders BTW), to murdering boxes in bulk. Cutting tags, strings, whatever's off things. Scraping rough nails on animals (grooming shop).
Honestly, we are talking about one of the/if not the most basic of all tools that got us out of caves.

Sheesh

OK...
I know I know

Rant mode off.
 
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Thanks to all that posted. Still haven't gotten my knives back, but I hope that eventually they'll see that I'm mature enough to handle a folder. I guess it's back to the crappy disposable razors again... *sigh*
 
Your absolutely right... Back when you were a minor everyone wasn't in fear of getting sued.
Heck back when I was a minor I got away with a couple myself.
It has been a very very long time since I have been to any store that doesn't require the 18 thing.
I should have stated it was kinda a fear of getting sued here thing in California.
It's been a few years since I have purchased a knife in store, usually just order online. Every online dealer I have ordered from requires it in some way or form.
Guess I have just gotten used to the 18+ thing.

OP,
Would she be more comfy with a swiss army knife?
Maybe suggest getting something "like grandpa used to carry"?

I emphasize, YOU suggesting supervised usage for the time being.

Hard for me to go back on my strict rules on my children myself, but guns and knives are a part of my families everyday life.
Heck even my wife carries 3 knives on her every day, 1 clipped on her pocket 2 in her purse (usually a small Sebenza seagrass)

OP...
P.S.

DO NOT, if you do manage to go the supervised route flick the knife open. No Spidie drops or the like, slow controlled usage.

Im 15 next month and i buy knives without my parents all the time. There is no age limit in california.


OP: Dude that sucks. I never realized just how chill my mom is, although she made me start with a SAK then to a Leatherman then to my BM Grip, now I am a knife knut. Now she wont let me buy more knives. Go that route, see if she will let you carry a classic red plastic SAK.
 
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To the OP:
That really sucks and the level of her reaction leads me to think it may be related to some sort of traumatic experience she had. That sounds a lot worse than average sheeple. As an 18 year old whose mom took a lot of convincing to be ok with my knives (especially the Microtech Ultratech, lol) here's my advice:
If she still hasn't given it back by now it's probably too late and she will just be against any knife that looks remotely dangerous. If so you might just have to wait until you're 18 and have the freedom to buy as many knives of whatever type you want. If you got the tenacious I assume you can get a SAK, and since you like Spyderco look at their smaller blades. I have the Spyderco Bug with a 1.3" blade and I don't see how even your mom would be scared of it. The last option is to just say f**k it and buy a new one to hide. If you kept the old one for a while odds are they won't find out about another one given that you would be actually trying to hide it.
If she has given it back or is letting you use it occasionally just demonstrate over time that it is a useful tool that you are mature enough to use properly. Also, if you want her to give you more freedom with it try going through your dad. I know you said he sided with her but if you have to convince someone it would be easier with him (and mention that his dad was a knife owner). If your mom is going to change her mind it's more likely to happen through him than you.
 
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