Poll. . . Pick Your Favorite Baby SARsquatch Design!!!!

Pick your favorite Baby Sarsquatch Design

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I voted #1 because it fits well with my uncompromising, hard-core mall ninja persona, but #2 is growing on me. Jaxx's idea looks pretty good, too.:thumbup:
 
Jaxx, I like your treatment on that. I would take the underside of the handle out the the end of the micarta and then a sharper radius (drop) for the guard/talon hole, then your subtle choil (maybe slightly tighter radius) and call it good. That gets me close enough to my working edge :thumbup:
 
mikeymoto said:
I like it, Jaxx - but you do realize I hope that since you came up with it and posted an image of it he can't use the design now. Dang it all!!
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Huh??? :confused: Why not? ...He can mod it, as I would figure that he'd want to do anyway. :)
 
# 2 for me ! Totally useful blade! Although if the number one didn't have this "almost choil" I would have to buy both :D
 
Jaxx said:
If I keep screwing around with Jerry's designs, he may decide to 'disown' me. :o ...But I took another shot at it. :) Went to sleep thinkin' about choils vs. no choils and such. in this photochopped copy, I chopped in a much smaller choil, one that the owner could round the corner on & sharpen. I'm thinking that it would drastically reduce catching, but still serve its purpose. The Talon hole area is still there as a finger guard... Besides INFI steel, what says "Busse" more? ;) ...I also dropped the handle another half degree to a full 2 degree angle lower than the original drawing of #1...

Take a peek... I do believe, from reading posts here, that the ultimate solution lays between the two design sketches... But since I have zero SAR experience, and zero knife design/mechanical engineering experience...Maybe I'm full of it! :o :D:D

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Great idea Jaxx!!! I really like that concept! :thumbup: Although in my opinion there should be no choil on a SAR type of knife. SAR people often have to use their knives in harsh conditions - many times when their hands are cold. Using choil it that situations can be risky. Also choils do not help when cutting ropes and that kind of stuff especially when the knife is a bit dulled and cutting is done with a movement resembling using a sow.
 
1Tracker said:
This photo and number 2 do not look similiar to my eye:confused: ...
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I was referring to number 2's lack of a choil and full convex grind--like the HOGmuk. These are different from previous Busse knives/designs and make them very unique. (Although similar to one another.) The transition from the DCH handle into the blade with the talon hole in its place looks very graceful on the Hogmuk prototype and I think it will look equally good on a prototype of number 2.

The HOGmuk and the Baby SARsquatch--Uniquely Awesome Potential Busses!
 
Jerry I have to change my vote, kind of. I am feeling the handle and thumb ramp (although moved forward a bit) of #1 and the blade of #2. Either that or keep #1, move the thumb ramp up, ditch the choil and raise the sabre grind line, oh and don't forget to make convex all the way to the edge. :D I have to agree with the train of thought that going choil less on #1 is the way to go, people who have to have one could have the mod done pretty easily. I have to wonder if you favor a specific size of choil based on the curves and their relation to stress points.

I think you are going to need another re-design before production. :)
 
I won't buy number 2. It's ugly and doesn't look like a Busse at all. Preferably, I want number one with no thumb ramp. Those are a liability because everybody's thumb rests differently on the spine, and it can really ruin a blade if your thumb sits in an uncomfortable place on the ramp.
 
J85909266 said:
I won't buy number 2. It's ugly and doesn't look like a Busse at all. Preferably, I want number one with no thumb ramp. Those are a liability because everybody's thumb rests differently on the spine, and it can really ruin a blade if your thumb sits in an uncomfortable place on the ramp.
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Not a chance.:p If you want a winner of an ugly contest look at #1
#2 may not be an ideal design for a SAR blade but If it came down to which one I would buy, it is obvious....

#1 just reminds me of a BATAC, which is one of my least favored models...
 
Tony G said:
Same here:thumbup:

And of course any guys actually doing SAR work should have their votes weighted about 100:1
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Thanks Tony. If you and I are ever at a knife function together I owe you a drink. I really appreciate that you are think our input should have greater weight and that a SAR knife should be designed by SAR personnel.
 
Jaxx said:
If I keep screwing around with Jerry's designs, he may decide to 'disown' me. :o ...But I took another shot at it. :) Went to sleep thinkin' about choils vs. no choils and such. in this photochopped copy, I chopped in a much smaller choil, one that the owner could round the corner on & sharpen. I'm thinking that it would drastically reduce catching, but still serve its purpose. The Talon hole area is still there as a finger guard... Besides INFI steel, what says "Busse" more? ;) ...I also dropped the handle another half degree to a full 2 degree angle lower than the original drawing of #1...

Take a peek... I do believe, from reading posts here, that the ultimate solution lays between the two design sketches... But since I have zero SAR experience, and zero knife design/mechanical engineering experience...Maybe I'm full of it! :o :D:D

BabySAR-mod2.jpg
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Loks good. I like the much smaller choil. As much as a know it is part of the Busse look the very large choil is one of the things about my BATAC I would change if I could.
 
Either one but please do not eliminate the guard:grumpy:

I would be happy with a finger choil, a small choil, or no choil, but for cryin' out loud, don't remove the guard.
 
Uncle_Jarvis said:
Not a chance.:p If you want a winner of an ugly contest look at #1
#2 may not be an ideal design for a SAR blade but If it came down to which one I would buy, it is obvious....

#1 just reminds me of a BATAC, which is one of my least favored models...
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Go buy a Bark River...or a kitchen knife. I've never seen a more un-Busse Busse design.

Anyway, number 1 looks nothing like a BATAC. I hate the BATAC because it is severely handle heavy, awkward to carry and looks ugly due to bad ratio between the blade and handle. The number 1 looks like the BATAC should have: A solid, well proportioned five inch Busse tp follow up the stellar BA-III. I was about to buy a RatManDu due to the lack of a decent blade in that category by Busse.

Different strokes, I guess. I hope he makes both because I would like everybody to be happy. These are totally different blades, anyway. It's odd to make us choose. Number 1 is a standard utility, and number 2 is more woodcrafty. Niether really defines SAR for me.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't SAR short for Search and Rescue? If that's the case, shouldn't it be a thick for prying, blunt tipped serrated blade with a seatbelt cutter sized for EDC? None of this makes any sense for SAR, to me.
 
Got to go with number 1. If you've ever had your hand slip when sticking something, and your grip slips and old finger gets a good slice, the guard is worth its weight in gold. # 2 looks pretty, but functionality is the cornerstone of a true Busse. # 2 reminds me too much of a kitchen knife.
 
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