Off Topic Poll...What do you think UFO's are? <poll re-opened>

What do you believe the truly "unexplained" UFO's are?

  • Natural Phenomena <swamp gas, plasma discharge, stars, planets, etc.>

  • Otherworldly technology <ET's, Aliens, etc.>

  • Advanced U.S.A. Tech

  • Foreign Advanced Tech <the Russians, Chinese, Indians, etc.>

  • Supernatural / Interdimensional Phenomena

  • Ordinary / Known devices just being difficult to identify <civilian drones, weather balloons, etc.>

  • Deliberate hoaxing by gov't. or civvies


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Jaxx

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I've seen 2 "UFO's" in my lifetime.
The first was when I was much younger, a teen back in the 80's. This one was quite advanced looking even by today's tech standards. No discernable propulsion system from underneath, like it just floated. Big. Like frigate big. Total daylight sighting...
I was about 37-38 when I saw the 2nd. The second was more of your typical round "ufo" shape as it slowly flew over rt. 202 (SE PA) around dusk, looked like a 2-4 seater in size, low flying, with a subdued bluish light emanating from the center underneath...Freaked me out but I believe this 2nd one to be earth tech from here (USA). Lockheed Martin & Boeing do have facilities in the area... I'm thinking drone with unknown propulsion tech, as a few years later, I caught a show, on Discovery maybe, all about cutting edge propulsion tech & theories- one example showed a round saucer on a rod (sitting on the narrarator's desk), & when he applied electrical current, the saucer shot up the rod. Got my attention as this was exactly how that "ufo" seemed to be powered by my memory of the sighting. So...USA experimental tech "ufo" is my guess on this one.
Both had no discernable engine sounds. The first I would have heard as I was laying on a lawn looking up as it floated into view (I froze. I'll never forget that feeling seeing it come into view, high up), the second, probably I would have not as I was driving with a window down.

The first one? I dunno......not even a guess except not from anywhere around here...
 

PeteyTwoPointOne

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I've seen 2 "UFO's" in my lifetime.
The first was when I was much younger, a teen back in the 80's. This one was quite advanced looking even by today's tech standards. No discernable propulsion system from underneath, like it just floated. Big. Like frigate big. Total daylight sighting...
I was about 37-38 when I saw the 2nd. The second was more of your typical round "ufo" shape as it slowly flew over rt. 202 (SE PA) around dusk, looked like a 2-4 seater in size, low flying, with a subdued bluish light emanating from the center underneath...Freaked me out but I believe this 2nd one to be earth tech from here (USA). Lockheed Martin & Boeing do have facilities in the area... I'm thinking drone with unknown propulsion tech, as a few years later, I caught a show, on Discovery maybe, all about cutting edge propulsion tech & theories- one example showed a round saucer on a rod (sitting on the narrarator's desk), & when he applied electrical current, the saucer shot up the rod. Got my attention as this was exactly how that "ufo" seemed to be powered by my memory of the sighting. So...USA experimental tech "ufo" is my guess on this one.
Both had no discernable engine sounds. The first I would have heard as I was laying on a lawn looking up as it floated into view (I froze. I'll never forget that feeling seeing it come into view, high up), the second, probably I would have not as I was driving with a window down.

The first one? I dunno......not even a guess except not from anywhere around here...

Thanks Jaxx, although I appreciate the humor of everyone who posted so far-- but this ^^^ is the exact kind of real-life, personal experiences I'd hoped Busse folk would post up :thumbsup: ...

I've never seen anything in the sky I thought was unusual... but my Dad <b. 1920-passed 2003> claimed when he was a teen, while working in the garden in rural TN he saw what looked like "a sliver dollar way up in the sky zipping around like a bumble bee" not making a sound. Now, Dad was-- let's say-- a no-nonsense kind of guy and he didn't abide no bullshitting within earshot, hell, he didn't even like hearing jokes being told. It was sure when Dad made a claim, you could bet your ass it weren't no fish story.

So considering Dad's sighting would've been ca. 1935, it's probably real safe to say it wasn't advanced Earth tech. Hell, there were barely any planes at all around that era in rural TN. And my Dad wouldn't have mistaken what he sighted for a plane anyways because he was drafted into the Army and served in the Army Air Corp as a crewman on a B-24 Liberator. He came to learn more about flying craft and silhouettes of that era than 99% of the general public, you could bank on it. So looking back with his experience base, he would've been able to reason out what he'd seen just a few years prior.

I asked him when he was up in the wild blue yonder aboard his bomber, if he ever saw any of the "foo-fighters" other plane crews reported in that era, he said he didn't personally see any, but he had buddies who did see them zipping around their planes.
 

dogboye

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I was split between ordinary tech that people don't recognize, or realize exists vs. deliberate hoaxes by gov't or civvies.

I've heard it said before: "Which fact would be more mind-blowing: the fact that there is life beyond Earth-- or the fact that we are the ONLY life in the entire universe?"

One of those "facts" has to be TRUE!

And either one of those is fascinating, sobering, and absolutely terrifying all at the same time!

I guess so, although there is a caveat to the first: there could be life out there beyond earth, but it is so far away that we won't find out about it in our lifetimes, or those of several generations of our offspring. That is the kind of distances you're talking about when you start considering interstellar distances, much moreso if you're talking intergalactic distances. You can play around with the distances, speed, and times on this site. You can see that times add up quickly, and that is assuming you have the technology to get to the speeds it calculates. Right now, we don't have the technology, or at least not in practical form. A journey to the center of our galaxy will take nearly 28,000 years. To go to the nearest galaxy, you're looking at over 2.5 million years. This is all assuming a lightspeed limit, which I don't believe anyone has disputed unequivocally. Yet.

So I just don't have the willing suspension of disbelief to think it is anything extraterrestrial. I'm more willing to believe it is something supernatural or interdimensional than interstellar travelers.

I also wouldn't be at all surprised if all of the possibilities of terrestrial causes are actually in play, on a case-by-case basis.
 

Bigger T

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Operation Paper clip is worth looking into. Most stealth aircraft were kept secret for a very long time even though people would see them flying at night.
TR-3B are secret triangle shaped anti gravity aircraft that people have seen. Those ones are of human origin, everything else who knows. I have seen two strange lights in my lifetime. Both at night. One I thought was a satellite arcing across the night sky until it took a freaky right turn and went speeding off in the other direction. The other one I was bringing the tractor back home, I saw a bright green light like really bright slowly descending then it ascended at inhuman speed into the sky. If you spend enough time watching the stars you’ll see something strange eventually.
 

JohnTheTexican

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TR-3B are secret triangle shaped anti gravity aircraft that people have seen.

I think you're confused. TR-3Bs looked like this:

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The TR-7 were the ones that were supposed to be triangular:

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I don't think either of them could really fly, though. Those old British sports cars were more about style than speed.
 
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Adolf Hitler escaped to the north pole after his staged suicide. He now lives there in the underground megacity that the dwarves constructed there millenia ago. The dwarves are sharing their tech with him so he can build an undefeatable army of robots and genetically modified Uber mensch to take over the world and maybe the solar system too. The UFOs you see are merely pilots and drones of the nazi-Dwarven coalition doing recon, test flights and exercises, as well as the occasional kidnapping to procure human genetic material for the uber-ubermensch program.
 

JohnTheTexican

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Adolf Hitler escaped to the north pole after his staged suicide. He now lives there in the underground megacity that the dwarves constructed there millenia ago. The dwarves are sharing their tech with him so he can build an undefeatable army of robots and genetically modified Uber mensch to take over the world and maybe the solar system too. The UFOs you see are merely pilots and drones of the nazi-Dwarven coalition doing recon, test flights and exercises, as well as the occasional kidnapping to procure human genetic material for the uber-ubermensch program.

The Dwarves are at the South Pole, where there's land under the ice. When Hitler faked his death, he went south, not north.

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The North Pole is the home of the Elves. It was Elvis who faked his death and went north.

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not2sharp

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Those who believe in flying saucers and little green men fail to appreciate the actual size of the universe, or even our solar system. While I would like to think that there is plenty of intelligent life out there, I remain convinced that the chances of meeting them are zero. Even if we had magically visited both planets at the origins of two neighboring and soon to be brilliant species, and left markers with a clear map and instructions to each other’s location, the species would have become extinct long before they could reach each other. The distances involved are just too enormous for even long lived phenomena like star systems or galaxies to traverse.

If despite the odds, aliens were to actually find us, they wouldn’t be sneaking around in the night scavenging cattle parts and molesting backwoods drunkards. Both species would be out in force in celebration of such an unlikely chance encounter.

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PeteyTwoPointOne

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I also wouldn't be at all surprised if all of the possibilities of terrestrial causes are actually in play, on a case-by-case basis.

Imho you're likely onto something here ^^^.

Plasma discharge emanating from volcanoes and tectonic plates undoubtedly account for a lot of "ghost light" and UFO sightings around seismic active areas.
 

Twoody

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Pretty ignorant to think were the only life out there.. there could be "life" all around us everyday our senses and tech might just not pick it up or register it.
 

Don't drop it.

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If your culture is millions of years old, it would be like us traveling to Africa to visit a Ant Hill. (Makes little sense) Unless they are here to steal our Gold. The best conductor of electricity and is not native to our planet, It came from space.

30 years ago, traveling across a southern highway in New Mexico , The only thing farther south was Mexico. I look south and see a HUGE spherical shiny ship, not moving just stationary.
My mom was driving and this thing was visible for at least 30 minutes ... It had to have been huge, not some blimp.

A book I read once about alien life . They grew there ships like coral, They had a creature that could attract itself to a far off location and pull itself like gravity towards it. No thrusters or electronics. Made you wonder about what alien life could be like... They hated electronics and were all biological...

Or maybe they use 100% of there brain, Astral projection to travel? No time needed, Time is a concept..

Either way I'm sleeping with a Busse strapped on...

My guess is interdimensional...
 
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JohnTheTexican

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When I was a kid living in East Lansing, Michigan, I was out in our back yard one Saturday afternoon in the fall when there was thing really loud sound like a roaring engine, and then this great big thing that looked like a fat gray cigar slowly passed over the house. Weird.

That would have been in the late 60s or early 70s. G. Gordon Liddy wrote about a similar siting when he was a kid. Double weird.
 

tinfoil hat timmy

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Admiral Byrds south american interview while returning from Antarctica

Those who know me also know that I dont believe that space is what we have been taught it is.

Theres no way to verify anything NASA tells us is the truth. They have 56 million dollars a day to lose if they dont keep up the lie.


Hahahahahahhahah.


Enjoy

P.s. I voted for foreign tech.
 

littlehoot

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I was split between ordinary tech that people don't recognize, or realize exists vs. deliberate hoaxes by gov't or civvies.



I guess so, although there is a caveat to the first: there could be life out there beyond earth, but it is so far away that we won't find out about it in our lifetimes, or those of several generations of our offspring. That is the kind of distances you're talking about when you start considering interstellar distances, much moreso if you're talking intergalactic distances. You can play around with the distances, speed, and times on this site. You can see that times add up quickly, and that is assuming you have the technology to get to the speeds it calculates. Right now, we don't have the technology, or at least not in practical form. A journey to the center of our galaxy will take nearly 28,000 years. To go to the nearest galaxy, you're looking at over 2.5 million years. This is all assuming a lightspeed limit, which I don't believe anyone has disputed unequivocally. Yet.

So I just don't have the willing suspension of disbelief to think it is anything extraterrestrial. I'm more willing to believe it is something supernatural or interdimensional than interstellar travelers.

I also wouldn't be at all surprised if all of the possibilities of terrestrial causes are actually in play, on a case-by-case basis.

Lots of theory about wormholes and things like the bending of space. If an alien race is many millennia ahead of us developmentally, it's not inconceivable to conclude they have figured out a different brand of physics and the tech to travel such distance using methods other than high speed
 
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