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Off Topic Poll...What do you think UFO's are? <poll re-opened>

What do you believe the truly "unexplained" UFO's are?

  • Natural Phenomena <swamp gas, plasma discharge, stars, planets, etc.>

  • Otherworldly technology <ET's, Aliens, etc.>

  • Advanced U.S.A. Tech

  • Foreign Advanced Tech <the Russians, Chinese, Indians, etc.>

  • Supernatural / Interdimensional Phenomena

  • Ordinary / Known devices just being difficult to identify <civilian drones, weather balloons, etc.>

  • Deliberate hoaxing by gov't. or civvies


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^^^ this ^^^ is a very intriguing article ... THANKS!

It'll make great reading for me for days...but at first blush, this quote really stands out to me:

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To quote the article:

"it <location & conditions pictured above ^^^> was an ideal testing environment that featured the very best aerial, surface, and undersea surveillance sensors and sensor crews on the planet.

. . .
Clearly, the ability to defy the limits of traditional propulsion and lift-borne flight would be the pinnacle of aerospace and electrical engineering and could be far too sensitive to disclose, at least in some people's eyes within the national security establishment. Even the risk of testing this technology against known air defense capabilities would have to be weighed against the need for the tightest of secrecy. But since UFOs carry such a stigma and have deep pop culture roots in our society, the risk of doing so against an unknowing Carrier Strike Group operating under tight training restrictions seems small and the setting uniquely ideal.

In other words, could the Tic Tac have been ours?

Yes."

So, I'm feeling slant on this article is...is that the fact this "Tic-Tac UFO," in broad daylight, performs heretofore impossible aeronautic maneuvers smack-dab in the middle of the most highly advanced field of sensors ever arrayed by man directly above a hyper-lethal naval force was more than just a random happenstance.

Especially when you combine that with the confiscation/disappearance of all relevant sensor data from airborne and seaborne platforms operating in the area.
 

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Especially when you combine that with the confiscation/disappearance of all relevant sensor data from airborne and seaborne platforms operating in the area.

EXACTLY!

So looks like choice #3 "Advanced U.S.A. Tech" might be the Darkhorse favorite.
 

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JohnTheTexican

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I remember Carl Sagan explaining what an interdimensional encounter might be like for us on Earth.

First, he requested that we imagine we were reduced down to 2-D beings-- only able to move/see in X -->Y direction on a coordinate plane.

Next, he sat an apple down on the grid and had us imagine how we <the 2-D version of ourselves> would perceive the 3-D object <the apple>...

Of course we'd assume to only be able to experience, or see, the X/Y dimension. Since we were unable to look "up," the Z dimension/axis would be imperceptible to us and, thus, we'd only be able to experience the 2-D "part" of the apple.

He postulated that a being that could exist across time and other dimensions may appear to us in an unusual form that would be unrecognizable or very difficult/impossible to explain or even fully experience in our 3-D existence.

It was the og Cosmos.

BLEW MY MIND!

Sagan basically stole that idea from Kurt Vonnegut in Slaughterhouse Five. Tralfamadorians lived/live/will live in all times simultaneously. I don't know who Vonnegut stole it from. Probably from Kilgore Trout's The Protocols of the Elders of Tralfamadore.
 
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Dang, I missed that. And this, until today. I’ve been working with ufos all week (aka small drones). :)
 
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Classic Twilight Zone episode. I think I was 6 or 7 when I first saw it, and it scared the shit out me, lol. 50 years later, I obviously still remember it.

 

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Bumping this after last nite's 60 Minutes report
Surprised this hasn't been linked yet:


Dang, I missed that. And this, until today. I’ve been working with ufos all week (aka small drones). :)

Here you go:
~5.6M views

so. the people who constantly hide truthful information from us are telling us to look to the skies because UFOs exist?

Seems legitimate.

hold on to your shorts ladies and gentlemen. the ride to the moon will be a bumpy one.

But the Earth IS flat??? 🤣
 
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tinfoil hat timmy

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Surprised this hasn't been linked yet:




Here you go:
~5.6M views



But the Earth IS flat??? 🤣
prove it's a spinning ball.

show me ONE experiment that shows we're on a spinning ball.

Einstein said there are none and that it's impossible.

extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

watch for a few minutes.
 

shunsui

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Something's spinning.

Wittgenstein once raised with the question: ‘Why do people say that it was natural to think that the sun went round the earth rather than that the earth turned on its axis?

Because it looked as if the sun went round the earth ?

Well, he asked, what would it have looked like if it had looked as if the earth turned on its axis ?
 
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Rex Charming

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Breakaway civilization. This isnt the first time we have had a global civilization. They are from the last time around...or the time before that...or the time before that.
Or perhaps what happens when one retires from Pine Gap..and doesnt want to go back to Walmart shopping and Black Friday lunacy.
 
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Honestly, looking at it strictly from a mathematical/statistical approach, there is a 100% chance of life somewhere out there.
If there is even a 1% chance of life, we are looking at 10 mil planets with some type of life out of a trillion starts. Then say a 1% chance of intelligent life, you are looking at 100,000 civilizations. Say 1% make it past Fermi and beyond their nuclear age, you are looking at 1000 space faring civilizations. That’s out of just a trillion stars, the Milky Way has an estimated 100 thousand million stars. So just looking at the numbers, there is life out there other than us, no question about it.
 
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