Possible Fake ZT 0562CF. What do you guys think?

Is this knife real?

  • Yes.

  • Yes, but he's misrepresenting how many owners it had.

  • No.

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Josh G said:
Hey, people. I said I was done with this conversation, but I changed my mind so I could tell you all how it ended. No surprise, eBay sided with me and refunded my money. I sent the knife back to the seller using the label that eBay generated, but the seller e-mailed to tell me that the knife was sent to the wrong address and that he wasn't going to refund my money until he got his knife back. Well, first of all, that didn't matter, because eBay/Paypal refunded my money, not him. Second, whose fault is it that the address was wrong? Clearly his, because eBay doesn't set up your address in the system; the user sets up their own address. The seller again e-mailed me to ask if the knife had been returned to me. I told him it had not (because it had not). A week later, though, it showed up on my doorstep. The seller had been pretty nasty about the whole thing, while I had been reasonable, so I'm keeping the knife. Eff him. As for the marks on the blade, I spent a while buffing each side of the blade with a light grit belt, using my Ken Onion Worksharp. It's not perfect, but it's better; I didn't want to be really aggressive and wind up grinding off too much steel. At some point I'll send a few pictures to ZT to verify that the knife is authentic, though when they took a look at the pictures on the eBay listing, they said it appeared to be so.
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birtbag
 
Just read your last post. You got the knife; you got the refund. You tried to send it back but address was improper so it got back to you. So now, you're keeping both the money and the KNIFE? Does this sound like thievery to you?
Get his CORRECT address, and send him the knife. Be happy if he doesn't want to sue your butt in small claims court. You've screwed up MUCH worse that he did.
IMO. p.s. I will never deal with you. Your integrity appears to suck.
 
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Sonnydaze said:
Just read your last post. You got the knife; you got the refund. You tried to send it back but address was improper so it got back to you. So now, you're keeping both the money and the KNIFE? Does this sound like thievery to you?
Get his CORRECT address, and send him the knife. Be happy if he doesn't want to sue your butt in small claims court. You've screwed up MUCH worse that he did.
IMO. p.s. I will never deal with you. Your integrity appears to suck.
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I disagree. The OP should send the seller money, since he has already put the knife on a belt sander.
 
+1 for that, r8shell r8shell .

It never ceases to amaze me how someone new to BF can start a thread complaining about someone else and in the course of a few posts and pages so thoroughly expose his own lack of good judgement and integrity.

I never have nor likely never will use the ignore button, but I can certainly understand why it exists.
 
r8shell said:
I disagree. The OP should send the seller money, since he has already put the knife on a belt sander.
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Yup. No matter how shady the seller or the item, once a buyer starts removing metal from a blade that blade is now the buyer's. The knife should have simply been returned. After it came back it should have been returned again. Paypal should have been instructing the buyer the whole time as he clearly is not capable of making the correct choices himself.
 
It really simple, if he got his money back, send back the product, no matter how nasty the seller was...
 
Blues Bender said:
No, he should be banned from the entire forum. This is not the type of action that standup members want in their community.
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No doubt.
Honestly it will be a short lived victory for this Crook. He obviously forgot about tracking. Soon they will investigate the missing knife and see it was returned to sender. Now that he has modified the knife he will be forced to give refund to the original seller.
 
Maybe you missed the post where the buyer stated he took a belt sander to the blade to remove a mark on it.
There is no way he should return the knife now. He owns it after he 'fixed' it.
He should send the seller the money back......but I doubt Mr Integrity will.

Topshot said:
It really simple, if he got his money back, send back the product, no matter how nasty the seller was...
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This link?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zero-Tolerance-0562CF-/192178493368

Josh G said:
Hey, people. I said I was done with this conversation, but I changed my mind so I could tell you all how it ended. No surprise, eBay sided with me and refunded my money. I sent the knife back to the seller using the label that eBay generated, but the seller e-mailed to tell me that the knife was sent to the wrong address and that he wasn't going to refund my money until he got his knife back. Well, first of all, that didn't matter, because eBay/Paypal refunded my money, not him. Second, whose fault is it that the address was wrong? Clearly his, because eBay doesn't set up your address in the system; the user sets up their own address. The seller again e-mailed me to ask if the knife had been returned to me. I told him it had not (because it had not). A week later, though, it showed up on my doorstep. The seller had been pretty nasty about the whole thing, while I had been reasonable, so I'm keeping the knife. Eff him. As for the marks on the blade, I spent a while buffing each side of the blade with a light grit belt, using my Ken Onion Worksharp. It's not perfect, but it's better; I didn't want to be really aggressive and wind up grinding off too much steel. At some point I'll send a few pictures to ZT to verify that the knife is authentic, though when they took a look at the pictures on the eBay listing, they said it appeared to be so.
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Congrats, you are clearly a class act. A model of integrity and honesty. I'm sure that a lot of people will be chomping at the bit to deal with you here on the exchange. Best of luck.
 
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I wasn't going to ban this person at first, but after giving it more thought it was the right thing to do. I personally cannot allow someone to be here knowing they are prone to theft and general dishonesty. Especially a self admitted thief. I would feel responsible if someone here were to be taken for money or an item, so the decision was simple. I invite the Ebay seller to use this thread a means to recover his money if possible.
 
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