Quartermaster Knives....WTF

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Michael Dye said:
Hmm, interesting thread that my company (New Graham) has gotten mixed into. We only have three patterns of QTRMSTR on the shelf this morning. All three say USA on the blade. I do not think I am negligent stating USA under this circumstance. I do not have the expertise or resources to determine country of origin and manufacture for each part of each item I sell. If that is the standard to which I am expected to perform - well, the OP is correct: I ain't your huckleberry. Perhaps instead of listing country of origin, you rekon I could legally state "Made on EARTH" or even more accurate: "Hell if I know where it is made" ? Geezzzz!
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I've got no issues with your company, but there is significant evidence that Quartermaster isn't made where they claim. There is no manufacturing facility where they have claimed there is one, they have received a literal ton of Chinese knives, they have shown shots of 'their' machining equipment that is absolutely identical (down to spots on the wall) as equipment seen in photographs of the WE knives factory. Given that their founder has also been involved in perfidy in the past I guess I would think twice before doing business with them in the future.

No offense intended and best regards.
 
Michael Dye said:
Hmm, interesting thread that my company (New Graham) has gotten mixed into. We only have three patterns of QTRMSTR on the shelf this morning. All three say USA on the blade. I do not think I am negligent stating USA under this circumstance. I do not have the expertise or resources to determine country of origin and manufacture for each part of each item I sell. If that is the standard to which I am expected to perform - well, the OP is correct: I ain't your huckleberry. Perhaps instead of listing country of origin, you rekon I could legally state "Made on EARTH" or even more accurate: "Hell if I know where it is made" ? Geezzzz!
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Are you unable or unwilling to write them a letter asking for proof?
 
Michael Dye said:
Hmm, interesting thread that my company (New Graham) has gotten mixed into. We only have three patterns of QTRMSTR on the shelf this morning. All three say USA on the blade. I do not think I am negligent stating USA under this circumstance. I do not have the expertise or resources to determine country of origin and manufacture for each part of each item I sell. If that is the standard to which I am expected to perform - well, the OP is correct: I ain't your huckleberry. Perhaps instead of listing country of origin, you rekon I could legally state "Made on EARTH" or even more accurate: "Hell if I know where it is made" ? Geezzzz!
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Perhaps consider removing USA as the country of origin on your website, the evidence for them being chinese made is overwhelming. Who you do business with is your call, and I know that they sell decently. But I do ask you to consider removing USA as their country of origin due to the overwhelming evidence. Do it or don't, its your choice. I won't pretend I know how to run your business, I just request consideration.
 
Based on over 40 years in the knife business I expect a company could send me all forms of proof of anything. I did go to our database and ascribe the following to QTRMSTR Knives: "They say made in USA, but hell, I really don't know."
 
Michael Dye said:
Based on over 40 years in the knife business I expect a company could send me all forms of proof of anything. I did go to our database and ascribe the following to QTRMSTR Knives: "They say made in USA, but hell, I really don't know."
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That is hilarious! Points for just adding the truth in there.
 
No one could be blamed at first for believing that President Clinton was being honest in denying that he "had sex with that woman." At first.

We are years by "at first" with Copiousity LLC and the "Quartermaster" or "QTRM5TR" brand knives they supposedly make in a residence in Texas with no business license. https://youtu.be/Wtis_yD-Yp0
 
Michael Dye said:
Based on over 40 years in the knife business I expect a company could send me all forms of proof of anything. I did go to our database and ascribe the following to QTRMSTR Knives: "They say made in USA, but hell, I really don't know."
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This is fantastic, thanks for that! Hilarious and true.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Points for see no evil, hear no evil?
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You could always take points for talking about politics where it's not allowed...

Thomas Linton said:
No one could be blamed at first for believing that President Clinton was being honest in denying that he "had sex with that woman."
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At least New Graham Knives took an immediate course of action rather than turning the blind eye like other dealers that have been mentioned. So yes, points to them.
 
Jsega51 said:
You could always take points for talking about politics where it's not allowed...




At least New Graham Knives took an immediate course of action rather than turning the blind eye like other dealers that have been mentioned. So yes, points to them.
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So report me, and we'll see what happens.

What "course of action"? Telling us they can't tell what's true?
I did go to our database and ascribe the following to QTRMSTR Knives: "They say made in USA, but hell, I really don't know.
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Michael Dye said:
Based on over 40 years in the knife business I expect a company could send me all forms of proof of anything. I did go to our database and ascribe the following to QTRMSTR Knives: "They say made in USA, but hell, I really don't know."
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For the marketer (you), that's a perfectly safe approach to take. Like it or not, the law requires the marketer to have "reliable and competent evidence" to support any Made in USA claim. Simply parroting the claim of the supplier, particularly when the claim is as well known to be dubious as is Quartermaster's, isn't going to cut it.
 
Michael Dye said:
Based on over 40 years in the knife business I expect a company could send me all forms of proof of anything. I did go to our database and ascribe the following to QTRMSTR Knives: "They say made in USA, but hell, I really don't know."
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Well at least now you've been informed of QM's shenanigans. What you do now reflects who you are.
 
Michael Dye said:
Based on over 40 years in the knife business I expect a company could send me all forms of proof of anything. I did go to our database and ascribe the following to QTRMSTR Knives: "They say made in USA, but hell, I really don't know."
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You missed one. That atrocity that they call the "Thomas Magnum" which I'm pretty sure is a copyright protected name by the way...;^)
 
Thomas Linton said:
Points for see no evil, hear no evil?
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He hasn't spent the time here like most of us (regulars) have going over all the manure. So he knows less than we do, and despite barely being familiar with the situation, decided to warn potential buyers of quartermaster knives, that he doesn't know if the claims of usa made, are real.

It's more than blade hq did, and yes, I think it deserves some points. I didn't say it was the perfect solution but it is something.

He could have blown this off like other dealers.
 
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Thomas Linton said:
What "course of action"? Telling us they can't tell what's true?
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Like shiny said, they have at least placed a disclaimer on those specific sales pages that the claims of being made in the USA need to be taken with caution as they can not be substantiated.
 
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