Quartermaster knives

Screwdriver said:
Also, since no one knows for sure where QM is, the cost of living, wages etc. How can one judge that there is no way they can make a profit at the price point with their replacement, repair policy? So how is made in China the only valid answer?
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The problem is that nobody knows where they are. You could be right about cost of living and such, but we know a US minimum wage. Outside of that we don't know. That raises questions in my mind. Just personally, it seems a bit odd to hide something they boast about. We SHOULD know where they are if they want us to buy the hype for their facility.

Lost Cosmonaut said:
I've gotten parts. They certainly do send out parts. Larger problems (functionality) they just replace the knives. I don't see anything wrong with that, may other companies that everyone on here loves do the same thing.
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I could be wrong. If you've gotten parts, that may point to something being done in house at least. Lots of companies send out parts, not a whole lot send out wholesale knives though. The only knife I've ever had wholly replaced was a SOG Trident I cracked the Zytel on and damaged the spring. I've heard more about QM sending out knives than any other company. IF you don't mind my asking, what parts did you get?
 
Oh, something changed - QTRMSTR "Headquarters" have changed location to a PO Box... From their Contact Us page:

Quartermaster Headquarters
Post Office Box 1121
Dripping Springs, TX 78620

And wait, their domain has all registration information kept private (whois query points to a proxy). Ah, I forgot, they love suspense and work from a super secret facility!
 
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BL4CKL1ST said:
The problem is that nobody knows where they are. You could be right about cost of living and such, but we know a US minimum wage. Outside of that we don't know. That raises questions in my mind. Just personally, it seems a bit odd to hide something they boast about. We SHOULD know where they are if they want us to buy the hype for their facility.
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Don't forget that they've blatantly stolen designs and claimed collaborations with makers who gave them no permission to use their designs or names. That's as big of if not a bigger issue than where their knives are made.
 
Shao said:
Don't forget that they've blatantly stolen designs and claimed collaborations with makers who gave them no permission to use their designs or names. That's as big of if not a bigger issue than where their knives are made.
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Agreed. A custom maker coming out and declaring your bullshit should kill or at least stop a company. At least integrity would hope. :rolleyes:
 
I noticed that as well, I guess to many people found out the last address was phony. I actually checked out qtrmstr about a year ago because the Mr.roper caught my eye, back then they had the 227 TURKEY DRIVE, Dripping Springs,TX 78620 address. Research brought up all the lies and I never spent a single cent on a qtrmstr or what ever the hell there name is.
choombak said:
Oh, something changed - QTRMSTR "Headquarters" have changed location to a PO Box... From their Contact Us page:

Quartermaster Headquarters
Post Office Box 1121
Dripping Springs, TX 78620
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Shao said:
Don't forget that they've blatantly stolen designs and claimed collaborations with makers who gave them no permission to use their designs or names. That's as big of if not a bigger issue than where their knives are made.
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Why hasn't there been a lawsuit if this is true?
 
Exactly, but rather than deter screwdriver he went and supported the thieving lying company to spite all the "haters" lol shameful a custom knife maker gets screwed and some folks will just not care. Pretty pathetic.
Shao said:
Don't forget that they've blatantly stolen designs and claimed collaborations with makers who gave them no permission to use their designs or names. That's as big of if not a bigger issue than where their knives are made.
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Shao said:
Don't forget that they've blatantly stolen designs and claimed collaborations with makers who gave them no permission to use their designs or names. That's as big of if not a bigger issue than where their knives are made.
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Are you still acting as Warrens handler? would be nice if he came here himself and made it clear what has happened.

Screwdriver said:
Why hasn't there been a lawsuit if this is true?
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Who knows, I'd sue immediately if my design had been stolen. Warren doesn't exactly have the best reputation round here... 3 side to every story you know, and we're getting one...






Screwdriver said:
Not a personal attack, just a reply to a person that I feel is personally attacking me.
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shinyedges said:
Exactly, but rather than deter screwdriver he went and supported the thieving lying company to spite all the "haters" lol shameful a custom knife maker gets screwed and some folks will just not care. Pretty pathetic.
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You 2 need to take it elsewhere and quick mucking up this thread with you petty back and forth BS.
 
Right away sir:rolleyes:
sh00ter01 said:
Are you still acting as Warrens handler? would be nice if he came here himself and made it clear what has happened.



Who knows, I'd sue immediately if my design had been stolen. Warren doesn't exactly have the best reputation round here... 3 side to every story you know, and we're getting one...









You 2 need to take it elsewhere and quick mucking up this thread with you petty back and forth BS.
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With my research revealing stolen designs, dishonest marketing, a texas knife factory which may or may not even exist, and that there balisongs designs are strange and borderline dangerous. Reminds me of a certain group of knife pirates *cough* Exiled Cutlery *cough*
 
BL4CKL1ST said:
The problem is that nobody knows where they are. You could be right about cost of living and such, but we know a US minimum wage. Outside of that we don't know. That raises questions in my mind. Just personally, it seems a bit odd to hide something they boast about. We SHOULD know where they are if they want us to buy the hype for their facility.



I could be wrong. If you've gotten parts, that may point to something being done in house at least. Lots of companies send out parts, not a whole lot send out wholesale knives though. The only knife I've ever had wholly replaced was a SOG Trident I cracked the Zytel on and damaged the spring. I've heard more about QM sending out knives than any other company. IF you don't mind my asking, what parts did you get?
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I got pivot parts.

As far as Warren Thomas, that whole thing reminds me way too much of Tim Britton v. Kizer Cutlery saga, and I think we all remember how that played out. It's easy to come to the defense of the "poor defenseless USA! USA! USA! knifemaker" but there are many who are just as shady and unscrupulous as there are those that are good. Warren Thomas makes a lot of great claims, but why hasn't he taken legal action to stop the Mr. Roper and other designs from being sold? He also admits that he DID work with Mantis Knives on a few projects. If we know anything about knifemakers, it's that they aren't always great about reading fine print on contracts.

Quartermaster has lately been working with respected names like Grant & Gavin Hawk (General Lee) and are working with an as yet unnamed collaborator on some other newer designs.
 
sh00ter01 said:
Are you still acting as Warrens handler? would be nice if he came here himself and made it clear what has happened.

Who knows, I'd sue immediately if my design had been stolen. Warren doesn't exactly have the best reputation round here... 3 side to every story you know, and we're getting one...
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He's too busy trying to make a living. The man works on knives and designs from sun up to long past sun down. There are personal issues in his life right now that I don't think are appropriate to discuss here. Warren isn't the only designer to call QRTRMSTR out. Do your research. Warren is a friend of mine and whatever reputation that he's supposedly earned around here isn't deserved. If you knew half of the story you wouldn't even be trying to pick a fight with me. I've heard the phone calls. I've seen the results. Warren never gave him permission to use his name or those designs.

Anyway, QRTRMSTR / Jared already dug his own grave and people need to stop defending him. As far as I'm concerned this is over. Anyone with half a bit of sense would know to steer far clear of these knives. Questionable business practices are one thing - but there's ample proof that what's going on in Dripping Springs is far more sinister than questionable. One only needs to use the search function. No one should support a company that steals designs from reputable knife makers... and how would you like it if someone decided to use your name and face to endorse a questionable product? Would you like to wake up one day and see that you've been unknowingly endorsing Extenze? It's wrong no matter how you cut it. Anyone that defends QRTRMSTR has no appreciation for intellectual property laws. Go buy a Mr. Roper or Ricardo Tubbs and pretend that you have a real Warren Thomas, that's the ticket!
 
Lost Cosmonaut said:
I got pivot parts.

As far as Warren Thomas, that whole thing reminds me way too much of Tim Britton v. Kizer Cutlery saga, and I think we all remember how that played out. It's easy to come to the defense of the "poor defenseless USA! USA! USA! knifemaker" but there are many who are just as shady and unscrupulous as there are those that are good. Warren Thomas makes a lot of great claims, but why hasn't he taken legal action to stop the Mr. Roper and other designs from being sold? He also admits that he DID work with Mantis Knives on a few projects. If we know anything about knifemakers, it's that they aren't always great about reading fine print on contracts.

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His coin knife was a collaboration with Mantis, as was the "Vaquita", which eventually became a QRTRMSTR product. I worked on those Vaquitas personally. I don't know the whole story, but I do know that the 2.5 (Mr. Roper) and M19 (Ricardo Tubbs) were never a part of the deal. I could ask WT for further details.
 
shinyedges said:
I noticed that as well, I guess to many people found out the last address was phony. I actually checked out qtrmstr about a year ago because the Mr.roper caught my eye, back then they had the 227 TURKEY DRIVE, Dripping Springs,TX 78620 address. Research brought up all the lies and I never spent a single cent on a qtrmstr or what ever the hell there name is.
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So a company changes addresses and that is proof of what?

Who owned that house? Was it one of the principles and they needed an address for incorporation so they used their own. The house is for sale...why wouldn't they change address? Have you seen the current address where they are incorporated? Maybe they use a PO Box because mail is not delivered daily to their location and it is easier to pick up the mail then wait for delivery. There are many answers just as valid as what you see as proof.

If a valid opposing statement can be made, it does not invalidate the original conclusion, but does call into question its validity.
 
Shao said:
His coin knife was a collaboration with Mantis, as was the "Vaquita", which eventually became a QRTRMSTR product. I worked on those Vaquitas personally. I don't know the whole story, but I do know that the 2.5 (Mr. Roper) and M19 (Ricardo Tubbs) were never a part of the deal. I could ask WT for further details.
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What I would like to see is the original contract between WT and Mantis. Maybe the whole story has not been relaid to you and there is more to it, which invalidated a lawsuit.
 
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