Queen Cutlery Company Closes

I guess that is why they are investigating is to decide if anyone is guilty of anything; I'm sure Jennie has a differing opinion. If enough money was being siphoned out to make a difference in the viability, then those who were financially responsible must see a lesson in the events. And these are not babes in the woods, these are seasoned businessmen. But, even at that, it was not near all their issues. For the past year, if the mentality and commitment to a value quality product were in place; and there were craftsmen to realize an end product - some one person they fired early last year was not keeping them from at least a marked rejuvenation. I think we all have a sincere hope that a team of management and craftsmen be assembled and tasked with making them a great name in American cutlery again.
 
I handled Employee Dishonesty claims for a commercial p&c insurance companies years ago. Two things seemed to be a hallmark of these claims.
First, when faced with the total amount of money stolen over the years, the employee was always stunned at the amount. They would tell me, “Yes, I was taking money for years, but there’s no way I took that much!”
Second, once a dishonest employee was discovered, the employer would blame all shrinkage during this time period on the thief. If the person at the front desk was pilfering cash to the tune of $100,000, then they also must have taken that box of pens from the supply closet.
These were sad claims to handle, as the guilty party was often a long term, well-trusted worker.
Many times they were caught when they would take some time off and a temp worker would uncover the discrepancy. We used to have a saying, “Beware the employee who never takes a day off!”
 
Will Power said:
Mind you, if it took FIVE years for the management to discover that an ex-President was embezzling (or whatever) from them it shows they were not at all on top of managing or running the company in a very fundamental way. You might say incompetence.....
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Quite a few assumptions being made. Obviously if this person was the president of the company, then she was clearly trusted. Kinda like how Roy Moore got away with all that nonsense. when you're in a position of trust and power, it's easy to get away with stuff that a common person would get caught doing in a week.
 
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Rumor mongering is kind of disgusting, maybe it's time to turn off this thread so the good christians can get back to prayer and bibles...
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I've been busy looking through dealer stock to find a few Queen and S&M knives that have been on my back burner want list. It has been a happy / sad adventure so far... one very pleasant surprise was a Mountain Man in curly zebra wood, slip joint version, very good build quality, and it even cuts well out of the box. I'm really gonna miss Queen if they somehow don't turn things around...
 
I'd very much like to find a good No.26 Small Stockman, preferably in Zebra or WCSB but the word scarce does not seem strong enough! :eek: In my view it's a brilliant small knife in D2, compact yet not toy-like, something which GEC is yet to emulate.

If Queen can re-appear in a viable form producing credible knives at reliable levels of QC, then knife enthusiasts worldwide would be delighted, no question.:thumbsup:
 
Will Power said:
I'd very much like to find a good No.26 Small Stockman, preferably in Zebra or WCSB but the word scarce does not seem strong enough! :eek: In my view it's a brilliant small knife in D2, compact yet not toy-like, something which GEC is yet to emulate.

If Queen can re-appear in a viable form producing credible knives at reliable levels of QC, then knife enthusiasts worldwide would be delighted, no question.:thumbsup:
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Life, we always think, some day, some day I will do this...then time has its way with things...good luck to you on your search Will.
D2 and ATS 34, two things that Queen made sing! :)
 
I loved the look of alot of the Queen / Shatt & Morgan knives I saw but the horror stories about QC I read on line kept me away. However I'd be willing to give them a shot if and when they get things moving again. :thumbsup:
 
From what I heard at a knife show this weekend, we have seen the last of Queen. Sad to see another American manufacturer go down.
By the way Ken Daniels was set up at the show.
 
No I didn't talk with Ken. I did overhear him telling someone about the problems with a female in the company.
I assume that is what several posters have been mentioned.
I heard it from a prominent knife guy that is a wholesaler and deals in countless brands including Queen, that Queen wouldn't reopen and if we ever saw any more that they would probably be from China.
He was set up right across from Ken.
He also had a large box of assorted Queen, Schatt & Morgan and Moore Maker knives that appeared to be seconds, for $25 each. He said those were some of the last knives to come out of the factory. I figure that he probably purchased those from Mr. Daniels.
I picked out 4 of those for myself ( hard to pass up a bargain lol ).
 
One thing I've never fully understood was the relationship between Queen/Schatt & Morgan and Ontario knives.

Back in July 2010 I bought a Schatt & Morgan Wharncliffe knife. It had many issues and I called Jennie Moore and she said to send it in for repair. I did and time went on and on. I called Jennie to see what the problem was and she was a bit rude and put me off.

Someone mentioned that I ought to contact Ontario Knives and talk to Diane Stanbro, which I did. A couple days later I got a call from Jennie saying they were working on my knife and she didn't sound like she was pleased about it. I then got an e-mail from Diane Stanbro as follows:

"I apologize for the inconvenience we have caused you. If you have any questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact me.
Regards,
Diane Stanbro
Diane Stanbro
Ontario Knife Company
(T) 716-676-5527 * 800-222-5233 Ext. 141
(F) 716-676-5535 * 800-299-2618"

A few days later I received my knife all fixed up and beautified.

The part I don't understand is why did Jennie Moore at Queen/S&M answer to Diane Stanbro at Ontario?
 
I was told that Servotronics from Buffalo, NY, owned Ontario and Queen. I remember my first SFO (ca. 2005) had to be discussed with someone who was mostly based at Ontario (forget his name). That indicates that Ontario might have been a step up the corporate ladder.
I wonder where Ontario is in this whole business???
 
waynorth said:
I was told that Servotronics from Buffalo, NY, owned Ontario and Queen. I remember my first SFO (ca. 2005) had to be discussed with someone who was mostly based at Ontario (forget his name). That indicates that Ontario might have been a step up the corporate ladder.
I wonder where Ontario is in this whole business???
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Yes. Thanks Charlie. I faintly recall the name Servotronics or something similar. As you think, it seems that Ontario was a step up the corporate ladder over Queen.

Funny how many nooks and crannies are involved when knife manufactures are discussed.
 
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