SOG QUESTION: ANY OTHER SERIOUS SOG COLLECTORS OUT THERE?

[OnlySOG]

Show me 1 post of trying to sell a knife. You won’t find one. Even once it’s up NOTHING will be for sale for years... for the 10th time. Isn’t there a mall that you live by that needs a security guard?

 

[marcinek]

Show me 1 post of trying to sell a knife. You won’t find one. Even once it’s up NOTHING will be for sale for years... for the 10th time. Isn’t there a mall that you live by that needs a security guard?

And so I'm back.

Sure would love to hear you talk about your unparalleled SOG collection and expertise instead of promoting your business.

Then I wont be back. Easy peasy.

 

[Rival1314]

Sogmaster - One cool feature of this site is the "ignore" button...I suggest you give it a try

 

[Makael]

OP is wanting to talk to collectors. No reason to absolutely prove without a shadow of doubt that some people dont care for the brand.

Whats childish is not letting the thread apply to collectors not complainers.

Here's a bit of interesting history. SOG claimed their blades were 440a but it was actually AUS6. Link to what @KenHash had to say: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...y-of-the-sog-seal-2000.1326386/#post-15228031

And so I'm back.

Sure would love to hear you talk about your unparalleled SOG collection and expertise instead of promoting your business.

Then I wont be back. Easy peasy.

Is he promoting something? He has been pretty clear that he isnt. Have I missed it?

 

[danbot]

I liked SOG knives many, many years ago when they were a quality company. I would only purchase a vintage one now out of nostalgia.
I was very disappointed when the company went and slashed quality in favour of profit, in my estimation at the time, but that was the trend back then, along with Gerber and whoever bought out Shrade. Cold Steel seemed to be heading in that direction at the time as well, but I purchased Japaneses manufactured Cold Steel knives (before the rush to the bottom) instead of SOG and Gerber.

Darned shame really. SOG would be a lot more popular and collected here today if they hadn't forsaken quality to the extent that they have now. I think this is probably why the number of serious SOG collectors seem to be so few on BF.

 

[Kbrasmodeler]

Is he promoting something? He has been pretty clear that he isnt.

I’m eventually standing up an ONLYSOG.COM website that will include pics, specs, and a short description.

...selling off my collection will keep my fingers busy during my retirement in a few years.

At times I need to make room for more valuable knives, so I’ll sell a few via eBay for rock bottom prices...In time I’ll post a few gems from my collection.

A little more veiled:

A typical S1 Bowie with the square SOG logo and black leather sheath is worth roughly $350 in excellent shape. The earlier S1 Bowies that are stamped SOG SPECIALTIES in the same condition $575-$625 and with presentation box $800 - $1400 (the lower the number raises the value, especially 0005-0025 that cost $495 new back in 1986 (see attachment/SOG Ad for the S1 Bowie from a 1986 Soldier of Fortune Magazine) as only 1.5 were made.

This all looks like promoting a sales website and preparing to sell, so Marcinek and JBC6650 politely suggested he get a dealer membership.

Since my posting there has only been one other SOG collector and he lives in Belgium... wow that’s kind of sad.

JBC6650 and Craytab then politely addressed why he isn't seeing more interest, based on his own experience.

Whats childish is not letting the thread apply to collectors not complainers.

I don't understand why it is childish to respond to previous posts.

 

[b00n]

I liked SOG knives many, many years ago when they were a quality company. I would only purchase a vintage one now out of nostalgia.
I was very disappointed when the company went and slashed quality in favour of profit, in my estimation at the time, but that was the trend back then, along with Gerber and whoever bought out Shrade. Cold Steel seemed to be heading in that direction at the time as well, but I purchased Japaneses manufactured Cold Steel knives (before the rush to the bottom) instead of SOG and Gerber.

Darned shame really. SOG would be a lot more popular and collected here today if they hadn't forsaken quality to the extent that they have now. I think this is probably why the number of serious SOG collectors seem to be so few on BF.

They would do well if they went the Spyderco route, keep some high end models/US made ones, outsource some to Taiwan for midrange and some entry/budget China Models.
Cater to the range of buyers, elevate their current reputation. Their style is recognizable, they would do well I think.

 

[danbot]

They would do well if they went the Spyderco route, keep some high end models/US made ones, outsource some to Taiwan for midrange and some entry/budget China Models.
Cater to the range of buyers, elevate their current reputation. Their style is recognizable, they would do well I think.

I tend to agree. Hell, some of the youngest newbie collectors would probably think SOG was a great new knife company!

 

[OnlySOG]

Sogmaster - One cool feature of this site is the "ignore" button...I suggest you give it a try

I’ve found the Ignore button. Thx for the assist I don’t have a lot of time, but I look forward to discussing some really cool discontinued SOGs. I really dig collecting SOGs because I’m surprised regularly about what’s out there... literally lost in history that only a few people are aware of. I truly don’t expect everyone to share my passion, so take it or leave it. Ocassionally, I’ll post some pictures and share what I know. It’s not much, but it will be my contribution... preserving knife history. I’ve already shared some information on Flash and Recondos, as well as answered several questions from BF members. Hopefully, more to follow.

 

[OnlySOG]

A little more veiled:


This all looks like promoting a sales website and preparing to sell, so Marcinek and JBC6650 politely suggested he get a dealer membership.



JBC6650 then politely addressed why he isn't seeing more interest, based on his own experience.



I don't understand why it is childish to respond to previous posts.

Ya’ know... I can’t explain this any better. Pls read ALL of my posts. Here’s the deal. Even if I purchased whatever BF membership you and Marcinek want me to have, you’d still find something to complain about. I’ve been passing a lot about SOGs in numerous posts, exhibiting the best of virtues as a new member and still the eye pokes. I’m a NEW member! I’m going to stick around a little longer so I can access the quality of the dialog... so far I haven’t been impressed with how overly critical a few members are... which is a shame for the rest that are interested.

 

[Kbrasmodeler]

Ya’ know... I can’t explain this any better. Pls read ALL of my posts. Here’s the deal. Even if I purchased whatever BF membership you and Marcinek want me to have, you’d still find something to complain about. I’ve been passing a lot about SOGs in numerous posts, exhibiting the best of virtues as a new member and still the eye pokes. I’m a NEW member! I’m going to stick around a little longer so I can access the quality of the dialog... so far I haven’t been impressed with how overly critical a few members are... which is a shame for the rest that are interested.

I'm not trying to get you to purchase anything. If I ever suggest something like that, it's just to help someone who may not know the rules avoid gaining infraction points. Nothing more, nothing less. In my previous post, I was addressing some questions and statements. This is a discussion forum, after all. You mentioned that there aren't many SOG collectors here, and it was explained to you the likely reason why. That is no reason to explode, put anyone on ignore, or quit the site. If you do any of those, though, it is your choice.
Now, I know Marcinek comes off a bit abrasive, but he knows the rules, and reminds people of them. (I think it's his favorite activity ) His abrasiveness doesn't make him wrong, and if one of the members does't tell you the rules, a mod will, and those reminders sometimes carry penalties.
Stick around, enjoy the site, find fellow SOG enthusiasts, and learn a lot (although I understand you are the preeminent SOG collector in the known world), or don't. No skin off anyone's nose.

 

[Rival1314]

Ya’ know... I can’t explain this any better. Pls read ALL of my posts. Here’s the deal. Even if I purchased whatever BF membership you and Marcinek want me to have, you’d still find something to complain about. I’ve been passing a lot about SOGs in numerous posts, exhibiting the best of virtues as a new member and still the eye pokes. I’m a NEW member! I’m going to stick around a little longer so I can access the quality of the dialog... so far I haven’t been impressed with how overly critical a few members are... which is a shame for the rest that are interested.

You're fine....just don't so much as hint at the prospect of opening a site in the future....gets some of the regulars panties in a bunch. The rules don't allow for the promotion of sites unless they are paying contributor to the forum, even if the site in question doesn't exist yet. They are a protective bunch when it comes to the rules, but they are generally well intended (they just don't always play well with others). Also, try and steer clear of discussing values of knives, this too can be taken as veiled hints at selling. Keep sales discussions limited to the sales forum and you are all good. Stick to sharing your interest in SOG, its history, and interesting company facts and just know that you are gonna get a few people that feel the need to crap on the thread because they feel their opinions are shared by all.

 

[craytab]

OP is wanting to talk to collectors. No reason to absolutely prove without a shadow of doubt that some people dont care for the brand.

Whats childish is not letting the thread apply to collectors not complainers.

I am a SOG collector. You're a buck guy. You spend most of your time in the buck sub-forum. I've got a bunch of posts and threads in the SOG sub-forum. Have you been over there? Lots of good pictures. This isn't a manufacturer's sub-forum. We don't just talk rainbows and unicorns. All matters of a company can be discussed including why more serious collectors of a certain company don't exist here. The OP expressed this concern so I addressed the topic.

I do have a question for O OnlySOG , have you seen a Midnite Tigershark stamped S.M.C.A before? I had one and was told it was quite rare. Thread on the subject: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sog-tiger-sharks-help-with-identity.1175400/

 

[SpySmasher]

Their style is recognizable, they would do well I think.

I agree. There's no reason that SOG can't make a turn-around. It's easy to be cynical because we never see this happen -- knife companies always seem to move from "great" to "crap" as fallen giants sell off their IP to bloodsuckers that care about nothing except exploiting a once-great reputation.

However, there's no reason that with good ownership a company can't make a comeback. There's plenty of evidence in this thread that many of us, myself included, remember them fondly.

SOG itself, it seems to me, is trying. In 2016 they hired a new CEO and shortly after announced a new push towards US-manufactured models which they seemed to have followed up on. Just today they announced the impending release of their new Terminus XR model. Its a CTS-BDZ1 drop point flipper folder with a new lock that they call the XR. They imply that it's based on the Axis lock but with enough new features to be patentable. I haven't been able to find a photo of the clip side but I'm hoping that they've toned down the awful overdone SOG branding that has been their recent style.

Turn up the value. Turn down the branding. Mix new designs with beloved favorites and they could do well.

 

[OnlySOG]

I am a SOG collector. You're a buck guy. You spend most of your time in the buck sub-forum. I've got a bunch of posts and threads in the SOG sub-forum. Have you been over there? Lots of good pictures. This isn't a manufacturer's sub-forum. We don't just talk rainbows and unicorns. All matters of a company can be discussed including why more serious collectors of a certain company don't exist here. The OP expressed this concern so I addressed the topic.

I do have a question for O OnlySOG , have you seen a Midnite Tigershark stamped S.M.C.A before? I had one and was told it was quite rare. Thread on the subject: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sog-tiger-sharks-help-with-identity.1175400/

Yes. I own several SMCA Tigersharks... Midnite and Satin.

 

[Makael]

I am a SOG collector. You're a buck guy. You spend most of your time in the buck sub-forum. I've got a bunch of posts and threads in the SOG sub-forum. Have you been over there? Lots of good pictures. This isn't a manufacturer's sub-forum. We don't just talk rainbows and unicorns. All matters of a company can be discussed including why more serious collectors of a certain company don't exist here. The OP expressed this concern so I addressed the topic.

I do have a question for O OnlySOG , have you seen a Midnite Tigershark stamped S.M.C.A before? I had one and was told it was quite rare. Thread on the subject: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sog-tiger-sharks-help-with-identity.1175400/

I collect all kinds

 

[craytab]

Yes. I own several SMCA Tigersharks... Midnite and Satin.

Interesting. Can you post pictures? Of the midnite smca tigershark specifically.

 

[craytab]

I collect all kinds

Good!

 

[craytab]

I agree. There's no reason that SOG can't make a turn-around. It's easy to be cynical because we never see this happen -- knife companies always seem to move from "great" to "crap" as fallen giants sell off their IP to bloodsuckers that care about nothing except exploiting a once-great reputation.

However, there's no reason that with good ownership a company can't make a comeback. There's plenty of evidence in this thread that many of us, myself included, remember them fondly.

SOG itself, it seems to me, is trying. In 2016 they hired a new CEO and shortly after announced a new push towards US-manufactured models which they seemed to have followed up on. Just today they announced the impending release of their new Terminus XR model. Its a CTS-BDZ1 drop point flipper folder with a new lock that they call the XR. They imply that it's based on the Axis lock but with enough new features to be patentable. I haven't been able to find a photo of the clip side but I'm hoping that they've toned down the awful overdone SOG branding that has been their recent style.

Turn up the value. Turn down the branding. Mix new designs with beloved favorites and they could do well.

That is very interesting. I hadn't seen that. Thanks for sharing.

 

[GermanyChris]

I agree. There's no reason that SOG can't make a turn-around. It's easy to be cynical because we never see this happen -- knife companies always seem to move from "great" to "crap" as fallen giants sell off their IP to bloodsuckers that care about nothing except exploiting a once-great reputation.

However, there's no reason that with good ownership a company can't make a comeback. There's plenty of evidence in this thread that many of us, myself included, remember them fondly.

SOG itself, it seems to me, is trying. In 2016 they hired a new CEO and shortly after announced a new push towards US-manufactured models which they seemed to have followed up on. Just today they announced the impending release of their new Terminus XR model. Its a CTS-BDZ1 drop point flipper folder with a new lock that they call the XR. They imply that it's based on the Axis lock but with enough new features to be patentable. I haven't been able to find a photo of the clip side but I'm hoping that they've toned down the awful overdone SOG branding that has been their recent style.

Turn up the value. Turn down the branding. Mix new designs with beloved favorites and they could do well.

When I googled the model you're talking SOG Terminus it took me to a Knife News article that talked about it and the Mikkel. The Terminus looks like all the other tactical folders but that Mikkel seem like it could give the overbuilt crowd a run for it's money.