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I did send an email to the mods to get the negative feedback removed. As long as I get my knife back, I'm fine being out the money I spent of shipping and intercepting not including my time. Thanks
 
USPS intercept is NOT guaranteed...I had a trade almost exactly like this when I was new also. I tried to intercept the package 1 day before its delivery and it was still delivered. Luckily I eventually got my knife back and wasn't charged for the intercept service.

Also looking at your feedback it looks like you neglected to leave your other traders feedback as they rightfully did for you.
I understand your frustration and won't comment on this transaction as that's already been covered.
 
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Yea, I've been using tapatalk before very recently which doesn't allow for nothing more than reading and posting. Your right though, I was wrong for not putting in feedback for the trades that went well. I'll do that ASAP.
 
A deal was struck. When organic says I will ship at this time, then doesn't, and then goes on to say I don't trust you so I'm not shipping til I get your. knife first. With under 200 posts and a member not even a year, with very little feedback, damn right id intercept package. When organic said he's not shipping until he gets OPs knife, AFTER he already said he'd ship that morning, that's breaking a deal, and feedback should absolutely be left.

I would never want to deal with someone who uses shady methods of trading, and your feedback is a great warning too others aswell.
 
Read the Rules. If in doubt, ask a Mod. GBU, when used correctly, is the perfect venue for initial feedback. if you can't follow through, let the other person know quickly, rather than letting them guess. Rating points can always be given later. "Do unto others, etc."
 
You both have made a number of mistakes in this trade, from not setting the terms, one party not shipping( quick shipping is to be expected unless otherwise agreed on)and then modifying terms to his advantage, both parties not trusting each other(never do a trade if there is a ? of trust) and on to improper feedback. Hopefully you both will learn from this and do better in the future. I doubt either are scammers, though I have been fooled before.
Personally I don't like trading, there are just too many variables to go wrong, but that is up to the individual
 
OP shipped his $400 knife on the day as promised. The other guy did not ship his knife on the same day or by 8:30 the next day as he promised (clearly written in his email to the OP). So this is clearly NOT a case in which the shipping date was not specified/agreed upon by the two parties. How would you want the OP to trust the other guy now that he did not keep his promise AND also changed terms and gave contradictory excuses (too busy to go to the post office vs. have to receive OP's knife before he ships).
 
sharp_edge said:
OP shipped his $400 knife on the day as promised. The other guy did not ship his knife on the same day or by 8:30 the next day as he promised (clearly written in his email to the OP). So this is clearly NOT a case in which the shipping date was not specified/agreed upon by the two parties. How would you want the OP to trust the other guy now that he did not keep his promise AND also changed terms and gave contradictory excuses (too busy to go to the post office vs. have to receive OP's knife before he ships).
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My thoughts exactly
 
The trust seemed to be there till one party didn't stand by his word to ship next day at 8:30. Then a day later decides he'd rather wait till knife was in hand and as described before he'd send his.
At least that's how I understood it.
Just hope that MT makes it back home.
Joe
 
stonproject said:
A deal was struck. When organic says I will ship at this time, then doesn't, and then goes on to say I don't trust you so I'm not shipping til I get your. knife first. With under 200 posts and a member not even a year, with very little feedback, damn right id intercept package. When organic said he's not shipping until he gets OPs knife, AFTER he already said he'd ship that morning, that's breaking a deal, and feedback should absolutely be left.

I would never want to deal with someone who uses shady methods of trading, and your feedback is a great warning too others aswell.
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Not exactly. Neither party received the agreed upon items so the deal that was struck was never completed, rendering it null and void. What people need to do is make sure what you are getting into before getting all starry eyed and hopes up. Doing a little due diligence before striking up a conversation involving a double blind trade is a necessity. Providing a negative point blank for a deal that didn't happen is a sure way to ensure people think twice about dealing with the vindictive party.


Mpdog said:
My thoughts exactly
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Only thing I think you should've done OP is before leaving the feedback is to have asked organic to help with intercept fee. if he refused, which he probably would have, then the feedback is 100% warrented IMO.
Wrong again. This is not how we do things here. I'll be one of the first ones on the spot to offer help to make things right, as I've done in the past. But when people start making up their own rules and "stuff" that is when all hell breaks loose. Nope, not going to happen.
 
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stonproject said:
Only thing I think you should've done OP is before leaving the feedback is to have asked organic to help with intercept fee. if he refused, which he probably would have, then the feedback is 100% warrented IMO.
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Ok, thanks! Good idea!
 
I have had 100's of transactions(not all here) without any landing in the bad or ugly portion of the forum. A certain amount of those transaction were not perfect though. Some were bad communicators and some were late shippers. Some people have lives that are jammed up more than others and some may not prioritize the same way I do( I like to get knives out very quickly). With that said, not all slow shippers are scammers, but all scammers are slow(never) shippers. So being a slow shipper will send up a red flag for some, and it is best to state the possible problem early in the deal. In this case if I were the OP I would have tried to intercept the package as he did(more due to the changing of terms than the late shipping), but since it is not guaranteed he still may land up depending on the other parties honesty.
 
Wow! I'm glad you stopped that delivery! A lot of the horror stories we hear start out just like yours.

For my future trades, I'll be using the words "cross ship" in my PM's and emails.
 
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I just called the post office. Lady had to call driver while I was on the phone. Apparently the driver loaded it even though they had noticed the intercept. She knew exacts which package I was describing. If I hadn't called, I'm sure I would reaching out to the other guy. Organic said he would send it if he got it. Seemed sincere, I feel bad about all of this. I really think now he would have done what he said he was going to do albeit delayed. Trying to remove the feedback. I really hate to tarnish someone's reputation.

Thanks guys! Happy Easter!
 
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I just called the post office. Lady had to call driver while I was on the phone. Apparently the driver loaded it even though they had noticed the intercept. She knew exacts which package I was describing. If I hadn't called, I'm sure I would reaching out to the other guy. Organic said he would send it if he got it. Seemed sincere, I feel bad about all of this. I really think now he would have done what he said he was going to do albeit delayed. Trying to remove the feedback. I really hate to tarnish someone's reputation.
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You did the right thing (with regard to both the intercept and the feedback), don't feel bad. Organic556 was completely in the wrong here. If it's so difficult for him to get to the post office in a timely manner, then he needs to figure out another way to promptly ship—it's not that difficult. I even sent him a private message letting him know that he could print shipping labels through PayPal at any time (and that it's cheaper than USPS). His response was "I don't use PayPal." His lazy attitude toward shipping and his indifference towards finding a better solution (there are several) makes him an "ignore list" candidate for sure.
 
I would say that Organic556 tarnished his own reputation by not holding up his end of a trade agreement. I also don't like him hiding behind the vagaries of "I didn't give you a specific day I will ship out". That's total BULLS#*T. If you don't want to ship at the same time as another member who only has limited feedbacks, which is completely understandable, then have the common courtesy to say so ahead of time, BEFORE you agree to a trade. Oh yeah, by the way, not like you have extensive feedback yourself. Here's another crap statement from Organic556....."We never agreed to shipping out the same day". Really? Did you agree that you would get the knife first & make sure everything was good for you? Did you?? Apparently not.

Ultimately, I don't think Organic556 was trying to scam or steal anything. However, the way you conducted yourself in this "trade" left something to be desired.
 
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10after10 said:
I would say that Organic556 tarnished his own reputation by not holding up his end of a trade agreement. I also don't like him hiding behind the vagaries of "I didn't give you a specific day I will ship out". That's total BULLS#*T. If you don't want to ship at the same time as another member who only has limited feedbacks, which is completely understandable, then have the common courtesy to say so ahead of time, BEFORE you agree to a trade. Oh yeah, by the way, not like you have extensive feedback yourself. Here's another crap statement from Organic556....."We never agreed to shipping out the same day". Really? Did you agree that you would get the knife first & make sure everything was good for you? Did you?? Apparently not.

Ultimately, I don't think Organic556 was trying to scam or steal anything. However, the way you conducted yourself in this "trade" left something to be desired.
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He hasn't been back to explain anything so I'm pretty sure he agrees he wasn't honest. Doesn't really have a leg to stand on. I would have done the same as OP.
 
Thanks guys! I was second guessing myself this morning but not anymore. I was really hoping the few posts where I didn't mention his name would have changed things but that didn't happen. I know I acted quickly but the whole intercept thing seems pretty sketchy from reviews so I had to act fast. Even though I did, I still had to call the receiving post office. They were super nice and called the postman with it right away which is totally strange to me. You just don't see great customer service much anymore.

It all worked out in the end, yesterday another member reached out to me with an offer with what I wanted. The knife from the original transaction was really nice IMO but it wasn't what I was looking for exactly so in the end, it all worked out. Thanks guys! Looks like BF is a pretty good place! Now if I can only talk the wife into a few more purchases! That's a fight for another day I guess :-)
 
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