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Rev - If the "rules" are that no deal is complete until both parties are satisfied, and feedback can't be given unless a deal is completed, how does one ever have anything but perfect feedback? This bias in favor of positive feedback makes the system useless IMO. If it functioned like it should, it wouldn't be necessary to search GBU for stuff that ought to be reflected in feedback.

Please show me exactly where that is written as a rule? That is an ideal that people should strive for, not a hard and fast rule. The problem with this transaction is that a new member felt that he was going to get ripped off. The rules state what to do when this happens, hard to get to number 3 when you skip 1 and 2. We are not trying to suppress negative feedback, but it would have been more appropriate if the OP had received an empty box, a box with a rock, a SanrenMu POS knife, or something other than what was promised. Since he received nothing and the package was intercepted, the transaction was therefore incomplete. We can all sit here and come up with 1,000s of excuses as to why things went the way they did.. The recourse in these situations is a thread right in this very forum. What we are trying to prevent is retaliatory "FU Negs".

Everyone has their own idea of what is right or how things should work, but the current set of rules has been compiled over the course of over 10 years and literally over tens of thousands of transactions, buying, selling, trading, pass arounds, worst case scenarios, best case scenarios and even crap your pants paranoia situations. Are they perfect? Not at all, but they cover as much as possible without reading like a Senate bill. When you have 15 pages of rules people tend not to read any of it. So we try to keep things short and concise.

You may remember there was a time where everyone and their granny was shooting one another with negative feedback just because they felt they were wronged and Spark warned that if it continued the while iTreder system would be removed. I for one like having it around, but if people want it taken away then they should just ignore the owners suggestions and move full speed ahead. I would say at this point if the OP is out some money they the person on the other end of the trade should reimburse the expenses incurred by the OP. What's fair is fair and that much is fair. Mpdog fulfilled his end and the other guy was stalling, hemming and hawing for too long. Hope that makes sense.

No hard feelings Mpdog, I was just trying to prevent additional work for everyone and the drama that these kinds of threads tend to generate.
 
I've quickly read the rules during this thread and did what rev asked me to do to report the feedback. I hope we can amicably move pass this. I've learned from this and hope others can learn from this as well.


I was adding to gonebad's post about how most problems arise. It was meant as a generalization, not a dig towards you. All we can do is learn and try to better ourselves. :thumbup:
 
Thanks guys! I was second guessing myself this morning but not anymore. I was really hoping the few posts where I didn't mention his name would have changed things but that didn't happen. I know I acted quickly but the whole intercept thing seems pretty sketchy from reviews so I had to act fast. Even though I did, I still had to call the receiving post office. They were super nice and called the postman with it right away which is totally strange to me. You just don't see great customer service much anymore.

It all worked out in the end, yesterday another member reached out to me with an offer with what I wanted. The knife from the original transaction was really nice IMO but it wasn't what I was looking for exactly so in the end, it all worked out. Thanks guys! Looks like BF is a pretty good place! Now if I can only talk the wife into a few more purchases! That's a fight for another day I guess :-)

Glad the intercept worked! This place is full of nice guys, and you'll find many things to trade, buy and sell, just hang on to your wallet tight! :-D

I've found USPS PO staff to be super nice, especially when you are polite and understanding. My every deal with USPS, in person or over phone, has been stellar, and they remain my preferred choice to ship worldwide.
 
How did I end up with 40 positive trades and this guy is still in the single digits if I was trying to pull a fast one? He was my only negative feedback. Whats done is done but I do have integrity. I let time be my proof of honesty and it shows from all my sales. Just thought I'd revisit this thread to clear my name of this.
 
How did I end up with 40 positive trades and this guy is still in the single digits if I was trying to pull a fast one? He was my only negative feedback. Whats done is done but I do have integrity. I let time be my proof of honesty and it shows from all my sales. Just thought I'd revisit this thread to clear my name of this.

Dont know, but yours and his current feedback totals have no bearing on what transpired here.

There is nothing to clear up. You screwed this one up. Own it, learn from it and move on.
 
Dont know, but yours and his current feedback totals have no bearing on what transpired here.

There is nothing to clear up. You screwed this one up. Own it, learn from it and move on.

I could care less about trade. Or the trader, they already left me the negative feedback . I'm speaking purely in regards to the fact that it was question if I was trying to scam the guy out of the knife and that alone. Thank you for your input , though I have surpassed you in feedback as well. I've already made effort to never let this happen again as it shows thus far. But like I said I only wanted to show I was not some low life scam artist looking for free stuff. More useless comments are welcome though.
 
Thank you for your input , though I have surpassed you in feedback as well.
More useless comments are welcome though.

^ Congratulations on all of your positive feedbacks...

Here's another "useless" comment: you would've been much better served, letting this GBU thread slide deeper into the BF archives, rather than reviving it with this self congratulatory attitude you're now displaying.
 
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I could care less about trade. Or the trader, they already left me the negative feedback . I'm speaking purely in regards to the fact that it was question if I was trying to scam the guy out of the knife and that alone. Thank you for your input , though I have surpassed you in feedback as well. I've already made effort to never let this happen again as it shows thus far. But like I said I only wanted to show I was not some low life scam artist looking for free stuff. More useless comments are welcome though.

Yes, you have more numerical feedback than me. So?

By continually doing the right thing in transaction after transaction you are showing that this one example does not represent how you handle your business.

If "whats done is done" is true, then keep what you learn from this and move on. Rehashing it with a snide comment is not the best course of action to try and belatedly save face.

And apologies for another useless comment. Yet in my defense, it was welcomed.
 
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Why are you here almost 8 months later raising a stink about this?

It looks like you have been conducting yourself in a manner that's appropriate for BladeForums ever since the bad trade happened, and that's great.

But you were wrong. Get over it.
 
I thought I could chime in here as Organic556 refushed to sell me a CRK Starbenza 25 when I asked him for some pictures...
Shady???
 
I thought I could chime in here as Organic556 refushed to sell me a CRK Starbenza 25 when I asked him for some pictures...
Shady???
I am not sure you are allowed to post in this thread unless you have more positive feedbacks than him.

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I am not sure you are allowed to post in this thread unless you have more positive feedbacks than him.

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I was not aware of that.
Could an admin enlighten us, please?.
Thank you NCCNC and Bladeforums.
 
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