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Questions about stampings on a Collins Legitimus

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by lmalterna, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. C&Co. Legitimus

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    Practicing lol
     
  2. Steve Tall

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  4. crbnSteeladdict

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    Wow, what a shame it has been dismantled. I could imagine it inside of some old, abandoned, and later rehabed church building somwhere in CT. Huge sign in front of the building " SHRINE OF ALMIGHTY AMERICAN AXE" :)
     
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  6. C&Co. Legitimus

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    [​IMG] This is one. [​IMG]
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  8. C&Co. Legitimus

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    [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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  11. C&Co. Legitimus

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    Enough bs. Collins made the axes in question. No reasonable person would be such an idiot to think a counterfeiter would make a few dozen axes that just so happen to have exact combinations of a few old and new stamps for a special issue axe like the A&F NY or Abercrombie Camp. I have the actual price lists for that period of time and it wouldn’t be worth the effort. If you really want to get that picky I’m sure I could find a problem with every axe.
    They have part of them like you noted and there are other letter stamps that when put together make up the rest. The only fakes are made by and talked about in the lawsuits are from the Axe Nazis.
     
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  12. C&Co. Legitimus

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    The Abercrombies oval is just one example of many. Remember these are resurched all the way back to the manufactures of the stamps. There are hundred that you have never seen used. Give it up
     
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    Did you also know that after the flood of 1955 the workers were allowed to take and keep anything they could carry in order to clean the flooded factory? This means employees could have grabbed stamps and hammered them into any type of blade for their own use. Is that then a fake or is it a very rare Collins item. Enough is enough
     
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  15. C&Co. Legitimus

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    I will find the info on the Germans I promise.
     
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  16. crbnSteeladdict

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    That is really juicy info!! Thanks
     
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  19. Steve Tall

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    This information was provided by Collins in 1889, and says that Collins won 25 lawsuits in England, prevailed in 10 court cases in the US, as well as a number of German lawsuits. The forgeries made in England and Germany were said to have exact copies of the stamps and labels, while the imitations made in the US were similar enough to be deceptive. There is a great amount of detail in this book about the English cases.

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    Congressional Serial Set, U.S. Government Printing Office, 1890
     
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  20. Steve Tall

    Steve Tall

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    The Connecticut Historical Society has a Museum and Library with a collection of Collins Co. records from 1826-1950. Part of this collection is "Memoranda related to the German Fraud, 1871-1913". Included in Box 3, Folder 7 are "scrapbooks of German Fraud Correspondence, 1877-1887 and 1906-1913."

    https://chs.org/finding_aides/finding_aids/collins-co.html
     
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