Random Thought Thread

Grenock said:
There is a funny thing about anyone who has worked for the agency. It goes kinda like this…..

What do retirees, custodians, electricians, admins, cafeteria workers, bus drivers, SPOs and groundskeepers who work or worked for the agency tell their neighbors they do or did for the company? They were all spooks.

What do the actual NOCs and spooks tell their neighbors they do or did? Not a fuckin’ thing.
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Exactly. And that's the biggest way to tell. Although years ago I lived next to one old coot who was mosdef a retired sigint operative and he would tell some great Cuban stories after I plied him with Scotch.
 
Grenock said:
We’re they really bad admins or was that their cover?🧐
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Mind blown.

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Grenock said:
Letting in planeloads to be able to clamp down on the big shipments later seems plausible, especially if you follow the David Allen Coe Doctrine....."This will only hurt a little bit,........"
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We did controlled deliveries for a living...we'd follow bad guys and go several layers deep so that we could protect operations and informants.

That said, you cannot allow the narcotics to end up on the street. That is a violation of U.S. law.

Also, the CIA mandate does not allow ops in the U.S. and it was their responsibility to inform the attache's office in South America of the loads...not ship them clandestinely so that they ended up in the hands of other criminals and ultimately users.

And finally, you'd have to believe that the ultimate intent was to bag bad guys down there as opposed to some other undisclosed (Iran-Contra type?) purpose.

If you ever watched the original Netflix show "Narcos", the portrayal of tension between CIA and DEA was real. Even some of the names of agents and cases involved. I know because I was involved in some of them,

Murky waters.

(The planeloads I was referring to was a 727 stretch set up for cargo. Not a small Cessna. Just for clarity's sake.)



This case also involved the Cuban government and smuggling, (which was not touched upon in the 60 Minutes story), and I was able to ferret out how the operation went through the island. When I brought in a Cuban official to provide information to the agency heads, the HQ bureaucrats decided not to pursue that avenue further. That failure ultimately led me to lose faith in my agency and its dedication to the mission, and ultimately why I left the service a few years earlier than mandatory.)
 
Blues said:
Also, the CIA mandate does not allow ops in the U.S.
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That's where the Five Eyes really comes in handy! It's not spying on U.S. citizens if the U.K. does it for us, and then hands it over to the CIA, lol. :D

You need to set up a "Blues' campfire stories" thread and start telling us about your time as a law enforcement officer! :)
 
Fixall said:
That's where the Five Eyes really comes in handy! It's not spying on U.S. citizens if the U.K. does it for us, and then hands it over to the CIA, lol. :D

You need to set up a "Blues' campfire stories" thread and start telling us about your time as a law enforcement officer! :)
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I've worked with the Met here and in London...but on a homicide case (of theirs) here domestically.

They helped me with an arms smuggling case in London. Great lads, great friends.

As to the campfire thread...I don't think so.

I'd rather a few stories come out here and there when relevant, at least tangentially, to something else.
 
bellyfulls said:
American Made

I enjoyed that movie
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He was a dirt bag...and I don't think the movie, (which I didn't see), followed the facts closely...from what I understand.

I did work on the case that was portrayed in the movie that Bryan Cranston starred in..."The Infiltrator".

(That had a few laughs and personal twists.)
 
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