Random Thought Thread

Murphjd25 said:
Sure am glad I can work on my own stuff.
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You want to see a gross over-charging for service? Just buy a Harley and take it to a dealership for basic maintenance. I’ve seen prices like $350 for an oil change, that includes the engine, primary and trans, which they will do every 5k miles. Changing all 3 is crazy though since the primary can go 10-15k without changing and the tranny is every 15-20k.

Think of the thousands of people paying HD an extra $250 to literally dump good oil out of their bikes 10k-15k miles early every riding season, several times a year for the guys who can ride year-round, lol. Like you, I’m glad I work on my own stuff.
 
Jsega51 said:
You want to see a gross over-charging for service? Just buy a Harley and take it to a dealership for basic maintenance. I’ve seen prices like $350 for an oil change, that includes the engine, primary and trans, which they will do every 5k miles. Changing all 3 is crazy though since the primary can go 10-15k without changing and the tranny is every 15-20k.

Think of the thousands of people paying HD an extra $250 to literally dump good oil out of their bikes 10k-15k miles early every riding season, several times a year for the guys who can ride year-round, lol. Like you, I’m glad I work on my own stuff.
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Yep, used oil is actually slicker than new oil. It's one of the biggest hoaxes played on mankind. The oil filters are the most important to keep changed.
 
Blues said:
Well, soon there won't be any more oil...so, hopefully they'll install pedals and training wheels at a reasonable price.

I can't think of a proper emoji...laughing or crying.
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They will never pump the last barrel of oil out of the ground, it'll just get too expensive to burn it. It's a useful raw material, it does seem silly just to burn it as a fuel. Settlers cut all their trees down to burn the wood for heat and then didn't have any building materials. Same thing. We're always going to want petroleum for plastics and petrochemicals, pharmaceuticals and paint etc. But I do see the days of putting it in your fuel tank and burning it coming to an end. Which will be good. Because there's a bunch of people in this world that don't particularly love America and a lot of them are the ones who control the petroleum. Screw them. I'd like to see them try and eat sand.


It always struck me odd the coal rolling American Patriots driving around in their gas guzzlers talking about how red-blooded Americans won't drive electric cars, it's somehow un American. To me, telling OPEC to go screw themselves doesn't seem particularly unpatriotic to me.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
They will never pump the last barrel of oil out of the ground, it'll just get too expensive to burn it. It's a useful raw material, it does seem silly just to burn it as a fuel. Settlers cut all their trees down to burn the wood for heat and then didn't have any building materials. Same thing. We're always going to want petroleum for plastics and petrochemicals, pharmaceuticals and paint etc. But I do see the days of putting it in your fuel tank and burning it coming to an end. Which will be good. Because there's a bunch of people in this world that don't particularly love America and a lot of them are the ones who control the petroleum. Screw them. I'd like to see them try and eat sand.


It always struck me odd the coal rolling American Patriots driving around in their gas guzzlers talking about how red-blooded Americans won't drive electric cars, it's somehow un American. To me, telling OPEC to go screw themselves doesn't seem particularly unpatriotic to me.
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It always rolls back around to, "With freedom, comes responsibility".

Lots of folks want the freedom without any responsibility (and then there are the folks who simply can't/won't take a few seconds to stop and actually think about anything).
 
As someone who lives off the grid, I don’t really see the current options as “green” or all that environmentally friendly. I have solar with a propane generator as a backup. I have 16 batteries that weigh around 170 lbs a piece that have to be replaced every 4-5 years. My wife has an electric Polaris ranger that had the batteries start to fail after two years. It just doesn’t see practical or environmentally friendly to be replacing that many batteries on a nationwide scale.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
They will never pump the last barrel of oil out of the ground, it'll just get too expensive to burn it. It's a useful raw material, it does seem silly just to burn it as a fuel. Settlers cut all their trees down to burn the wood for heat and then didn't have any building materials. Same thing. We're always going to want petroleum for plastics and petrochemicals, pharmaceuticals and paint etc. But I do see the days of putting it in your fuel tank and burning it coming to an end. Which will be good. Because there's a bunch of people in this world that don't particularly love America and a lot of them are the ones who control the petroleum. Screw them. I'd like to see them try and eat sand.


It always struck me odd the coal rolling American Patriots driving around in their gas guzzlers talking about how red-blooded Americans won't drive electric cars, it's somehow un American. To me, telling OPEC to go screw themselves doesn't seem particularly unpatriotic to me.
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I agree. And trucks in particular have plenty of room for batteries.

And there is a current green alternative, and it‘s not wind mills. It‘s Gen 4 nuclear reactors…. People like to forget that there are plenty being used in ships and submarines already. A few more on land wouldn’t increase the already low risk dramatically.

IMHO.
 
Mendoman said:
As someone who lives off the grid, I don’t really see the current options as “green” or all that environmentally friendly. I have solar with a propane generator as a backup. I have 16 batteries that weigh around 170 lbs a piece that have to be replaced every 4-5 years. My wife has an electric Polaris ranger that had the batteries start to fail after two years. It just doesn’t see practical or environmentally friendly to be replacing that many batteries on a nationwide scale.
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I'm curious what has to happen in the world to get a battery to your door?
 
And, I should clarify. I'm a red-blooded American driving around in a coll rolling gas guzzler. I'm not proud of it, that's just what it is. People choose to get proud about the strangest shit. But I for one, I encourage you to all drive that Prius. That would suit me just fine. The EV hate mystifies me. I'm against legislating it, but why can't people appreciate those who do it without legislation? Or at least hate less? Why all the hate?
 
I have to bring them to my door. There is an alternative energy store in the nearest town. It’s about 45 minutes away. I go pick them up and return the used ones. I use the front end loader on my tractor to get them in and out of my truck. Then have to just drag and muscle them around in the shed that they are housed in to get them into their battery box. They need to be in a seal box with exterior ventilation because they produce hydrogen gas and there are a lot of electric components that control the system within the shed.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
They will never pump the last barrel of oil out of the ground, it'll just get too expensive to burn it. It's a useful raw material, it does seem silly just to burn it as a fuel. Settlers cut all their trees down to burn the wood for heat and then didn't have any building materials. Same thing. We're always going to want petroleum for plastics and petrochemicals, pharmaceuticals and paint etc. But I do see the days of putting it in your fuel tank and burning it coming to an end. Which will be good. Because there's a bunch of people in this world that don't particularly love America and a lot of them are the ones who control the petroleum. Screw them. I'd like to see them try and eat sand.


It always struck me odd the coal rolling American Patriots driving around in their gas guzzlers talking about how red-blooded Americans won't drive electric cars, it's somehow un American. To me, telling OPEC to go screw themselves doesn't seem particularly unpatriotic to me.
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no one is free from marketing 🤷‍♂️
 
Mendoman said:
I have to bring them to my door. There is an alternative energy store in the nearest town. It’s about 45 minutes away. I go pick them up and return the used ones. I use the front end loader on my tractor to get them in and out of my truck. Then have to just drag and muscle them around in the shed that they are housed in to get them into their battery box. They need to be in a seal box with exterior ventilation because they produce hydrogen gas and there are a lot of electric components that control the system within the shed.
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Thanks for your answer

what I meant is what goes into the production of them?

How much of ''thing a'' needs to be mined for ''thing b'' to be harvested to make this or that portion of the battery.
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
Thanks for your answer

what I meant is what goes into the production of them?

How much of ''thing a'' needs to be mined for ''thing b'' to be harvested to make this or that portion of the battery.
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Lithium is a big deal, but you know that already.

What might be surprising is that the largest L. Mines are not in China (as the news might suggest) but in Australia 10 largest Lithium mines
 
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