Random Thought Thread

steelcitysixteen said:
i believe it is people who do the absolute bare minimum to not get fired. walking that fine line. think peter from the movie office space.
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The term also encompasses workers who stick to the hours and responsibilities outlined in their contracts. As in, they refuse to be pressured into working after hours, or taking on additional responsibilities, without being compensated for the extra time/roles.

I'm sure many people who claim to be "quiet quitting" view themselves as good workers who simply refuse to be exploited by their employers. But, as always, some people will use it as an excuse to slack off.
 
oldmanwilly said:
I'm sure many people who claim to be "quiet quitting" view themselves as good workers who simply refuse to be exploited by their employers.
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In my mind at least, if you show up and work hard for the time that you're expected to, that's not 'quiet quitting.' I see not letting yourself be taken advantage of as pretty different, but then again, I don't know that there is a strict definition of the term.

And I'm also pretty sure that next month, "quiet quitting" will be forgotten and there will be some other new trendy term, like "courageously sucking." 🤣
 
oldmanwilly said:
Ok, so in a month I think you should Google "courageously sucking" and summarize the results for us...😳
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Murphjd25 said:
I heard a new word today. Quiet quitters. Wtf is that?
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I have a couple of 19 year Olds working for me and this is certainly their approach.

This week I have been putting them on the absolute worst jobs I have available. With a hard nosed 65 year old, sitting on his ass barking at them all day. I suspect their quitting won't be quiet much longer
 
Smithhammer said:
In my mind at least, if you show up and work hard for the time that you're expected to, that's not 'quiet quitting.' I see not letting yourself be taken advantage of as pretty different, but then again, I don't know that there is a strict definition of the term.

And I'm also pretty sure that next month, "quiet quitting" will be forgotten and there will be some other new trendy term, like "courageously sucking." 🤣
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I guess it depends on your industry, in a lot of white collar environments showing up at the official start time and working hard for the number of hours you are being paid for is seen as laziness. Obviously folks can have different perspectives, but most of the people I have seen talking about quiet quitting have been talking about not being taken advantage of and doing the work they are paid for rather than exhausting themselves for the vague idea of maybe it will pay off someday. I know that in my experience in academia if you are not doing a lot of unpaid work you will not get a good position, and if you don't keep doing unpaid work you won't advance. It can be possible to find a job that you can hold down just doing your job description, but not at a living wage.
 
I wonder if my 21-yo son qualifies as a quiet quitter. He will criticize the "quiet quitters" he knows, but he himself didn't want to join the military (GI Bill), doesn't want to go to college, doesn't want to move out of his mom's place, doesn't want a gf, doesn't want a career, etc. I'm not sure if he is the result of some failure on my part as his dad or the success of his fellow peers to basically do little to nothing in life. ***SIGH***

ETA: I will say that he is barely holding on to a job working for his mom as it is as a "file clerk" I believe.
 
abbydaddy said:
I guess it depends on your industry, in a lot of white collar environments showing up at the official start time and working hard for the number of hours you are being paid for is seen as laziness. Obviously folks can have different perspectives, but most of the people I have seen talking about quiet quitting have been talking about not being taken advantage of and doing the work they are paid for rather than exhausting themselves for the vague idea of maybe it will pay off someday. I know that in my experience in academia if you are not doing a lot of unpaid work you will not get a good position, and if you don't keep doing unpaid work you won't advance. It can be possible to find a job that you can hold down just doing your job description, but not at a living wage.
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You raise an interesting point. I am in the camp that our teachers are never paid enough. Granted, I am biased as my wife works as a teacher in behavior health and we have lots of friends who are teachers or teachers' aids. The amount of unpaid work they are expected to do (and not just work, but supplies, resources, etc. too) is ridiculous. If teachers didn't put in this extra effort, their jobs as educators suffer immensely.

Anyone who is going to be critical of our public educators, I encourage them to go get a background check and volunteer at their local schools for a week. The pressure that comes from all sides - kids, parents (parents are the worst), the district, and politicians - is unbelievable.

You have to really, really love your job as an educator to want to stay in that field. It's even more thankless than being in law enforcement.

on_the_edge said:
I wonder if my 21-yo son qualifies as a quiet quitter. He will criticize the "quiet quitters" he knows, but he himself didn't want to join the military (GI Bill), doesn't want to go to college, doesn't want to move out of his mom's place, doesn't want a gf, doesn't want a career, etc. I'm not sure if he is the result of some failure on my part as his dad or the success of his fellow peers to basically do little to nothing in life. ***SIGH***

ETA: I will say that he is barely holding on to a job working for his mom as it is as a "file clerk" I believe.
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I have a buddy whose 25 year old son (whom I am have known since he was 4) refuses to get a driver's license and still lives with his mom. Drives his dad batty because any time he wants to spend time with his boy, he has to make the 3 hour drive to pick him up and then take him home.

I don't understand it. I could not wait to have my independence when I was a lad.
 
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