Random Thought Thread

Pàdruig said:
You raise an interesting point. I am in the camp that our teachers are never paid enough. Granted, I am biased as my wife works as a teacher in behavior health and we have lots of friends who are teachers or teachers' aids. The amount of unpaid work they are expected to do (and not just work, but supplies, resources, etc. too) is ridiculous. If teachers didn't put in this extra effort, their jobs as educators suffer immensely.

Anyone who is going to be critical of our public educators, I encourage them to go get a background check and volunteer at their local schools for a week. The pressure that comes from all sides - kids, parents (parents are the worst), the district, and politicians - is unbelievable.

You have to really, really love your job as an educator to want to stay in that field. It's even more thankless than being in law enforcement.
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My sister and BIL are public school teachers, and would heartily agree with every word above. My sister once told me that if she averaged out her pay over all the hours she actually works above and beyond normal school hours, she'd make more money as a waitress, and that's after 20 years of teaching and having a Master's in Ed. On top of that, they are in one of the wealthiest states in the country, in what is supposedly a well-funded school district, and they have to pay for basic teaching materials (pens, chalk, etc) out of pocket because the school won't provide them.

It's become a really thankless job, which makes me very concerned about the future of our schools, when no one wants to teach in them anymore.
 
Pàdruig said:
You raise an interesting point. I am in the camp that our teachers are never paid enough. Granted, I am biased as my wife works as a teacher in behavior health and we have lots of friends who are teachers or teachers' aids. The amount of unpaid work they are expected to do (and not just work, but supplies, resources, etc. too) is ridiculous. If teachers didn't put in this extra effort, their jobs as educators suffer immensely.

Anyone who is going to be critical of our public educators, I encourage them to go get a background check and volunteer at their local schools for a week. The pressure that comes from all sides - kids, parents (parents are the worst), the district, and politicians - is unbelievable.

You have to really, really love your job as an educator to want to stay in that field. It's even more thankless than being in law enforcement.



I have a buddy whose 25 year old son (whom I am have known since he was 4) refuses to get a driver's license and still lives with his mom. Drives his dad batty because any time he wants to spend time with his boy, he has to make the 3 hour drive to pick him up and then take him home.

I don't understand it. I could not wait to have my independence when I was a lad.
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Mom was a teacher.

Over the years, I've had numerous people tell me that I'd make a very good teacher, to which my reply was, "Uhhh... heck no".

Aside from teaching martial arts and a self-defense class (quite a long time ago now), schoolteacher? Nope. My thoughts back then, were that I recalled what I was like as a student (not exactly unruly/disruptive. More the highly intelligent snotnosed ass. Had more than one teacher nickname me 'Professor'), and figured I didn't want to deal with that, but what I've heard and seen of some students nowadays... Nope. No way.

As for the 2nd part, I can't fathom it either. That independence/freedom was something EVERY teenager couldn't wait for. While things like Uber/Lyft etc. have made transportation easier (except in more remote locales), I still don't get it.
 
on_the_edge said:
I wonder if my 21-yo son qualifies as a quiet quitter. He will criticize the "quiet quitters" he knows, but he himself didn't want to join the military (GI Bill), doesn't want to go to college, doesn't want to move out of his mom's place, doesn't want a gf, doesn't want a career, etc. I'm not sure if he is the result of some failure on my part as his dad or the success of his fellow peers to basically do little to nothing in life. ***SIGH***
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I think you're confusing a quiet quitter with just a normal Gen Z. :D
 
Good thing I made a decent salary with the feds when my wife was teaching at a Montessori school in South FL. It'd have almost cost me less to have her stay at home. (She left a decent job that she disliked to do a job that paid crap that she loved. She really enjoyed the kids. I told her that's all that mattered.)
 
Blues said:
Good thing I made a decent salary with the feds when my wife was teaching at a Montessori school in South FL. It'd have almost cost me less to have her stay at home. (She left a decent job that she disliked to do a job that paid crap that she loved. She really enjoyed the kids. I told her that's all that mattered.)
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That is my current situation, but with the roles reversed. My wife provides very well for us in private practice, fortunately I get good benefits (overall it baaaaaarely makes financial sense for me to keep my job), but it does cost more for me to work than I make in actual wages.
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
Homeschool is a VERY valid and under utilized choice.
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You and I have talked about this before. As someone who was home-schooled, I 100% agree. That said, it has its drawbacks too. My folks didn't have the same support that I think a lot of home school groups do these days and so it required an enormous amount of grit, resources, and perseverance to make it successful.

The lack of a social outlet was the biggest drawback but academically, I soared.
 
Pàdruig said:
You raise an interesting point. I am in the camp that our teachers are never paid enough. Granted, I am biased as my wife works as a teacher in behavior health and we have lots of friends who are teachers or teachers' aids. The amount of unpaid work they are expected to do (and not just work, but supplies, resources, etc. too) is ridiculous. If teachers didn't put in this extra effort, their jobs as educators suffer immensely.

Anyone who is going to be critical of our public educators, I encourage them to go get a background check and volunteer at their local schools for a week. The pressure that comes from all sides - kids, parents (parents are the worst), the district, and politicians - is unbelievable.

You have to really, really love your job as an educator to want to stay in that field. It's even more thankless than being in law enforcement.



I have a buddy whose 25 year old son (whom I am have known since he was 4) refuses to get a driver's license and still lives with his mom. Drives his dad batty because any time he wants to spend time with his boy, he has to make the 3 hour drive to pick him up and then take him home.

I don't understand it. I could not wait to have my independence when I was a lad.
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Same with me--growing up, I craved independence long before my mother was ever willing to let me have it. Nowadays, it almost seems like kids are afraid of their own shadows and every attempt to get them out of their very tiny comfort zone is met with, "But I can't...". And no amount of encouragement seems to change anything.
 
Blues said:
Good thing I made a decent salary with the feds when my wife was teaching at a Montessori school in South FL. It'd have almost cost me less to have her stay at home. (She left a decent job that she disliked to do a job that paid crap that she loved. She really enjoyed the kids. I told her that's all that mattered.)
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My wife was a full time stay-at-home mom until the youngest was in elementary school. It 100% saved us money vs. day care and her working. The kids are better for it too, IMO.
 
SpyderPhreak said:
My wife was a full time stay-at-home mom until the youngest was in elementary school. It 100% saved us money vs. day care and her working. The kids are better for it too, IMO.
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Depending on the kid(s), being a stay at home mom is hard-ass work, and I mean WAY hard! For any silent disbelievers, try it for a week and tell me it was easy.
 
Pàdruig said:
You and I have talked about this before. As someone who was home-schooled, I 100% agree. That said, it has its drawbacks too. My folks didn't have the same support that I think a lot of home school groups do these days and so it required an enormous amount of grit, resources, and perseverance to make it successful.

The lack of a social outlet was the biggest drawback but academically, I soared.
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we have a bunch of things for the kids to be a part of.

Church, karate, and a group of other Home school families to get together with.
 
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