Random Thought Thread

Nathan the Machinist said:
I'm technically a Republican I guess but I am a little disillusioned with my party. I think most people who identify as a Republican today would call me a rino. And I'm okay with that. Politics has become a mix of reality TV and team sport, and I guess I just don't fit in anymore. I don't care.

I agree that we need to secure our borders, limit immigration of people from countries whose culture is fundamentally incompatible with ours and whose migration to our country is primarily for their benefit and not ours, spend tax money wisely and biased in a way where it benefits the people who paid it, and move away from a lot of the identity politics stuff. I'm a fat middle-aged white southerner who hunts and shoots guns regularly and drives a deleted diesel truck. I'm clearly a Republican. However, I believe we need intelligent competent professionals making sane rational choices and the fact that an ignorant and unhinged conspiracy theorist like Marjorie Taylor Green has developed a lot of prominence in the Republican party clearly demonstrates that we are no longer the adults in the room. All of the incompetency and chaos is embarrassing to the party and destructive and wasteful to the country.

I like that Trump is outside of the political class and he will say and do some outrageous things. And I don't even care that much that he's a repugnant person. But he does not have the right temperament for the job and he is largely incompetent. Not as hopelessly out of touch with reality as what remained of Joe Biden but still not good enough. Add to that he is a person of poor character and I don't particularly care for him.

All of that said, I do like the implementation of some of the policies reversing where the liberals have overstepped. Some of the insanity was getting a little out of hand.

At the end of the day it's supposed to be a respectful collaborative effort that goes back and forth and the current system is so dysfunctional, I fear for our future. This country deserves competent law and policy makers, on both sides, but we have been voting for the wrong people for the wrong reasons. I blame social media.
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You're not that fat.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I'm technically a Republican I guess but I am a little disillusioned with my party. I think most people who identify as a Republican today would call me a rino. And I'm okay with that. Politics has become a mix of reality TV and team sport, and I guess I just don't fit in anymore. I don't care.

I agree that we need to secure our borders, limit immigration of people from countries whose culture is fundamentally incompatible with ours and whose migration to our country is primarily for their benefit and not ours, spend tax money wisely and biased in a way where it benefits the people who paid it, and move away from a lot of the identity politics stuff. I'm a fat middle-aged white southerner who hunts and shoots guns regularly and drives a deleted diesel truck. I'm clearly a Republican. However, I believe we need intelligent competent professionals making sane rational choices and the fact that an ignorant and unhinged conspiracy theorist like Marjorie Taylor Green has developed a lot of prominence in the Republican party clearly demonstrates that we are no longer the adults in the room. All of the incompetency and chaos is embarrassing to the party and destructive and wasteful to the country.

I like that Trump is outside of the political class and he will say and do some outrageous things. And I don't even care that much that he's a repugnant person. But he does not have the right temperament for the job and he is largely incompetent. Not as hopelessly out of touch with reality as what remained of Joe Biden but still not good enough. Add to that he is a person of poor character and I don't particularly care for him.

All of that said, I do like the implementation of some of the policies reversing where the liberals have overstepped. Some of the insanity was getting a little out of hand.

At the end of the day it's supposed to be a respectful collaborative effort that goes back and forth and the current system is so dysfunctional, I fear for our future. This country deserves competent law and policy makers, on both sides, but we have been voting for the wrong people for the wrong reasons. I blame social media.
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Huh, didn't expect such a cogent response to my silly joke. Your opinions seem too nuanced to be welcome in politics these days. I, too, fear for what comes next.
 
oldmanwilly said:
Huh, didn't expect such a cogent response to my silly joke. Your opinions seem too nuanced to be welcome in politics these days. I, too, fear for what comes next.
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I'd like to think that most of us here on the forums are thinking men and women; which does not fit in well at all with the current brand of politicking on display.
 
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On a side note, this may be at odds with some of the firepower displayed here recently but I was given this and I think it's pretty damn cool. A '60s era Ruger Single-Six; this piece was well loved and carried.

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Blues said:
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"Move over "Tea Party"...the "Pumpkin Beer Party" is now on tap!"
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I like the idea of the tea party but, it seemed to attract a bunch of the conspiracy theorist wackos like the Qanon clowns.

Decisions should be made on the merit of facts, not popular choice driven by literally made up nonsense bouncing around the echo chambers.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I like the idea of the tea party but, it seemed to attract a bunch of the conspiracy theorist wackos like the Qanon clowns.

Decisions should be made on the merit of facts, not popular choice driven by literally made up nonsense bouncing around the echo chambers.
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Welcome to Blade Forums...
 
Here's another unpopular opinion.

Laws and policy should never be based on religious beliefs.

I can't buy beer on Sunday because it offends your religious sensibilities? Get over yourself, this isn't Iran.

So, overturning R V Wade is probably a good thing. It was always problematic law, from the point of view of constitutional right. But doing it because of religion? Do it because it's homicide, but leave religion out of it.

The question should be framed: does a woman's right to choose what happens to her body trump an unborn child's right to life. That's the question. Keep religion out of it.

Our founding fathers did not want this. My party is playing with fire here.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
Here's another unpopular opinion.

Laws and policy should never be based on religious beliefs.

I can't buy beer on Sunday because it offends your religious sensibilities? Get over yourself, this isn't Iran.

So, overturning R V Wade is probably a good thing. It was always problematic law, from the point of view of constitutional right. But doing it because of religion? Do it because it's homicide, but leave religion out of it.

The question should be framed: does a woman's right to choose what happens to her body trump an unborn child's right to life. That's the question. Keep religion out of it.

Our founding fathers did not want this. My party is playing with fire here.
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I thought they overturned Roe v. Wade because they decided there wasn't federal authority to have issued that decision in the first place, so the question wasn't religious but rather, whether there was federal authority to limit the States' rights to legislate on the subject of abortion. So in Dobbs they sent it back to the states (States rights issue again)
The beer on Sunday thing is usually on the municipal or county level, never federal though.
 
Fonedork said:
I thought they overturned Roe v. Wade because they decided there wasn't federal authority to have issued that decision in the first place, so the question wasn't religious but rather, whether there was federal authority to limit the States' rights to legislate on the subject of abortion. So in Dobbs they sent it back to the states (States rights issue again)
The beer on Sunday thing is usually on the municipal or county level, never federal though.
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They overturned Roe v Wade because it was bad law. For the exact reason you just identified. It should have never been created in the first place and overturning it, as comfortable as it is to reverse that much Supreme Court level precedent, it was the right thing to do.

But that's not why they went after it. They were not motivated by some pursuit of legal purity here. It offended them (rightfully so) and they organized around largely political lines, and that political line is the way that it is because Ronald Reagan pursued the religious right. Had it been the Democrats that had gotten in bed with the evangelicals (which, in my mind would have made more sense) I think we would have seen a very different outcome.

You don't have to try very hard or look very deep to find the elected leaders framing this as a religious matter.


But, I should probably tap the brakes here. This is not the political arena. That's the place to go for intelligent balanced insightful respectful discussion of these sorts of things. (Sarcasm)
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
Here's another unpopular opinion.

Laws and policy should never be based on religious beliefs.

I can't buy beer on Sunday because it offends your religious sensibilities? Get over yourself, this isn't Iran.

So, overturning R V Wade is probably a good thing. It was always problematic law, from the point of view of constitutional right. But doing it because of religion? Do it because it's homicide, but leave religion out of it.

The question should be framed: does a woman's right to choose what happens to her body trump an unborn child's right to life. That's the question. Keep religion out of it.

Our founding fathers did not want this. My party is playing with fire here.
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.... wait


...... you can't buy beer on Sunday


... burn it down lol
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
They overturned Roe v Wade because it was bad law. For the exact reason you just identified. It should have never been created in the first place and overturning it, as comfortable as it is to reverse that much Supreme Court level precedent, it was the right thing to do.

But that's not why they went after it. They were not motivated by some pursuit of legal purity here. It offended them (rightfully so) and they organized around largely political lines, and that political line is the way that it is because Ronald Reagan pursued the religious right. Had it been the Democrats that had gotten in bed with the evangelicals (which, in my mind would have made more sense) I think we would have seen a very different outcome.

You don't have to try very hard or look very deep to find the elected leaders framing this as a religious matter.


But, I should probably tap the brakes here. This is not the political arena. That's the place to go for intelligent balanced insightful respectful discussion of these sorts of things. (Sarcasm)
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Even the late Justice Ginsburg was critical of the decision in Roe v. Wade for being too sweeping and open to legal challenges, so its reversal really shouldn't be all that surprising.


Unfortunately, you are correct in that the actual motivations for reversal were not strictly based on concerns for proper construction of legal precedent.

*Edit: I just noticed that you pumped the brakes on politic'n in this thread, so I'll leave it here.
 
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Pàdruig said:
On a side note, this may be at odds with some of the firepower displayed here recently but I was given this and I think it's pretty damn cool. A '60s era Ruger Single-Six; this piece was well loved and carried.

PncIbI4.jpeg
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I still have the one I carried to check traps every morning before school. The new models are ok and I have a couple of those as well, but I wouldnt trade the old 3 screw for 2 new ones new ones.
 
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Back in the day in Georgia you could only drink on Sunday in places who got 51% of their income from food so that restaurants could continue to serve alcohol. Of course the loophole was going to a bar that would sell you a pack of those orange peanut butter crackers for 4-5$ and it would come with a free drink. There would be piles of unopened packs of crackers on the bar.
 
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