RAT Fighting Knife

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Which knife, the RC-4, RC-5 or RC-6 would work best as a fighting knife? I understand that RAT knives are primarily survival oriented, but I appreciate a knife that can be used for survival as well as other emergencies.

I have an RC-3 and an Izula, but I want a knife with more blade. Do the larger knives have a larger handle than the RC-3, or is only the blade bigger?
 
The chances of you using a knife for fighting are pretty slim. I believe that the handles are proportional to the blades. The RC-5 is designed as a escape and evasion knife (prying, digging, chopping). Where are you going with it that you anticipate a need for "more blade"???
 
The RC6 would be a better and nimbler fighter per se. Plus it has the advantage of deep enough penetration to reach all major organs from mevery angle even through clothing.
 
Depends on how you fight with one or if you even know what you are doing with one to begin with. The RC-3 is a small blade but it is a wide blade and you put that in someone about 12 times in 4 to 6 seconds, the only way they are not getting off of you or out of your face is if you keep pulling them in or they are chemically fueled. In which case, nothing short of decapitation is going to make problem solving in these types of situations any easier.
 
well said don, It should be mentioned that some knife based martial arts styles practice disarms that heavily rely on the opponent having a longer blade. certain aspects of certain styles also rely on the feeder having a small concealable agile knife such as in panantukan...
personally I think a 6 inch blade is max but would prefer a 3-4 inch blade as something that is light and agile but also carry able. while organs are buried deep beneath muscle and bone arteries and ligaments can be more easily accesed with nimble slicing moves as opposed to committed thrusts, but those are just my opinions ymv.
 
Glock 19- works better than any knife.

I don't think any of the RAT knives are particularly suitable as "fighters". That's not what they're designed for. Sure, you could slice somebody up with one, but that's not their intended function.

Between the RC-5 and RC-6- I would say the RC-6 is the better "fighter". The RC-5 is thick and heavy- the RC-6 is lighter and more nimble- and has a bit more reach. The RC-4 is a bit too small to be considered a "fighter"- but it might be more useful in the real world, as it's small enough that you're more likely to be carrying it. And yes, the handles on the larger knives are bigger than they are on the RC-3. Not a whole lot in the case of the RC-4, but a bit.
 
BenchmadeBoy said:
The chances of you using a knife for fighting are pretty slim. I believe that the handles are proportional to the blades. The RC-5 is designed as a escape and evasion knife (prying, digging, chopping). Where are you going with it that you anticipate a need for "more blade"???
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That depends on who you are. i've used my knife in a fight once
 
I train in Kali and like fast knives.

I'm guessing that the RC-3 is going to be about as nimble as they get, seeing as how the others are thicker (correct me if I'm wrong). The RC-3 balances well, and fits my hand perfectly. I was hoping that the others, while bigger and thicker, might have a similar feel.

I bought the Izula and RC-3, thinking that I would carry the Izula and use the RC-3 for bushcraft. It turned out to be the opposite. I carry the RC-3 and the Izula does backup duty in my 72 hour bag that I keep in the car. It's just too small and doesn't fit my hand. I was thinking that maybe I was wrong about the size of their other knives, but it seems that I was correct.

My issue with most "fighting knives" is that they're too light, and most are worthless for bushcraft. My problem with most "bushcraft knives" is that they're too heavy, and most seem ill suited to fighting. I was hoping to find some compromise, a knife that could do a decent job of both. It seems more and more like that won't happen, so...

If you had to use a RAT knife for fighting, which would you use and why?
 
If you had to use a RAT knife for fighting, which would you use and why?
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You seem to want a specific answer in spite of sounding quite capable of making a choice yourself.
OK, the RC-3. Adequate spear point, broad blade, razor sharp, can be deployed from concealment and can inflict serious enough injury to facilitate an escape. It also looks relatively tame, which could be helpful if you ever had to use it defensively.
I can tell you that you do not want to be in a knife fight of any duration, especially with a drugged out individual who fights like an injured lion.
 
moonwilson said:
Glock 19- works better than any knife.
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Let's try to keep the conversation on an adult level and not stray into bullshit like, "never bring a knife to a gunfight" or the stupidity on the other side of the spectrum, "guns are for show, knives are for pros" because both extremes are so utterly stupid it makes me want to geef.

I don't think any of the RAT knives are particularly suitable as "fighters". That's not what they're designed for. Sure, you could slice somebody up with one, but that's not their intended function.
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With all due respect, anyone that handles an RC-3, 4 or 6 or the former SERE-5 or the old Ontario versions and knows their way around edged weapons and is skilled with them would know that they are more than "suitable" as fighters. I think you should stick to your own excellent advice. Glocks are excellent handguns. Unfortunately, there are many places where they cannot go legally - along with fixed blade knives I might add - but on the trails in part of my state, some places I can carry a FB, some places not. We could go over and over on this but it would be to no end. You don't even know enough about edged weapons to know what you don't know and your own words show it. "Sure, you could slice someone up with one, but that's not their intended function." Really? Would you care to explain the difference between cutting meat and cutting meat? Field dress a deer, open an attacker up, no difference to me.

Between the RC-5 and RC-6- I would say the RC-6 is the better "fighter". The RC-5 is thick and heavy- the RC-6 is lighter and more nimble- and has a bit more reach. The RC-4 is a bit too small to be considered a "fighter"- but it might be more useful in the real world, as it's small enough that you're more likely to be carrying it. And yes, the handles on the larger knives are bigger than they are on the RC-3. Not a whole lot in the case of the RC-4, but a bit.
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uh...yeah.
 
If you're expecting to get into extended knife duels and had to choose your weapon from the RAT line, I'd go with the RC6. But for practicalities sake a plastic bodied retractable razor is lighter, easier to conceal, and for all intents and purposes, faster and easier to deploy...and they break apart and can be throw away if need be.

A RC6 will undoubtely disgorge a man and may just skewer them right through leaving a bloody mass on the ground for the cops to draw a chalk line around if that's what you're after. In most cases I'd rather have the guy I slashed run the hell away just as I would be doing. Less paperwork that way.
 
I think the soon to come clip points, expecially the RC4 in my way of thinking, will be great for outdoors and a decent emergency fighting knife. If I had to fight with a Rat that would be the direction I'd lean.
 
folderfan2093 said:
That depends on who you are. i've used my knife in a fight once
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funny ive used almost everything but a knife, i used a knife to prevent myself from being robbed though i think it really depends on the person, most people will go their entire lives without getting into a real fight never mind one wiht blades or bullets.

why a rat for SD? they are exceptional knives but not sd oriented, id have to say wait for the H.E.S.t if u want a fighter from rat bu tin the meantime why dont you try this? http://www.knifeworks.com/browseproducts/Fallkniven-Garm-Fighter.HTML about all u could want in a tidy package.
 
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