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Your comments are like breaking wind and calling it logical thought...
No thanks, Vassilli.
You keep it.
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Your comments are like breaking wind and calling it logical thought...
No thanks, Vassilli.
You keep it.
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No, I never implied that. That was so hard to understand that U had to ask? Must be cola...
Fantastic. So we agree that human beings won't be able to match the machines.
And this is valid logic? How many humans do you know that can exert same force which will be "typical of average human" and do it over and over again? And how often knife use is in uncontrolled env. Those tests will give exactly that result, i.e. how will the knife behave in controlled use and environment. Which doesn't really apply in most of the situations in everyday life, forget survival or combat.
That's confusing huh? In first sentence you say tests are not the same, in second you list the tests and clearly state that does the same tests, so which one is it? Besides, if you're not watching them how do you even know he's doing the same thing or not, or what is he even doing there. Criticizing without knowing the subject is scientific or at least ok?
I apologize, may be I misunderstood overall tone of your msgs, but you do come out as a bit pompous. However, I would really be interested to see your CV(cutlery related parts at least) and more importantly, learning what have you contributed to knife community, scientific knife testing and such.
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Apples and oranges. The examples you give typically involve very carefully delineated methods. They have a variety of controls built into their tests. Forces are measured and maintained. Moreover, researchers collect reams of data after a crash/failure/destruction. Multiple tests are conducted. Averages are computed. Statistics compiled. The idea, in part, is to be able to predict when a failure will occur with some precision.
noss4 is breaking knives. He does some of the same things with each knife now--better "methods" than in the past. But he's still just breaking knives. It's qualitative investigation perhaps. Case studies maybe? However, most would not describe what he's doing as science.
How many scientists do you know who wear hockey masks to work?
No this is same things, if you look at same crash tests about year or so after it was introduced - there was no all this wistles and blowers which car industry developed for all this year. Now will all this happen if they listen to "...that is like breaking wind and calling it music..."?
So as you just admit that procedure is getting better and better.
To me this is great testing, magnificent effort and very useful thing to see. And I strongly believe that in time it will be better and better does or does not someone came up with "...breaking wind..."
Thanks, Vassili.
P.S. It just became term for this kind of critisism, did not it? What an irony!
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I think part of the point is that the damage is cumulative and the tests progress into heavier impacts and more extreme materials for edge contact. It also again brings up cost and effort. There are plenty of people who want Noss to break a handful of knives instead of one, or use a different one for each test. These are the same people who won't purposefully break a single one of their knives.
Too many people call it waste. If Noss is at a point in his life where he can afford to do something he enjoys, then so be it. I throw away leftovers, I don't need the starving to bitch at me about it, and they definitely don't need to tell me to buy more food.
Too many people call it waste. If Noss is at a point in his life where he can afford to do something he enjoys, then so be it. I throw away leftovers, I don't need the starving to bitch at me about it, and they definitely don't need to tell me to buy more food.
I always thought nozh guy came off a bit badly because of his grammer, but now I can plainly see that he's an egotistical ass. And without a full serving of logic to boot.
Nozh, can I be on your ignore list too? Since this is the last thing you'll read of mine, I'd also like to point out that ending everything with "thanks," even when you've just insulted someone, is very condescending, and the shallow attempt at "politeness" just comes off making you look even more arrogant. But I know you don't care. You're just too damn cool to let this affect your certainty of your own awesomeness.
Nozh, can I be on your ignore list too? Since this is the last thing you'll read of mine, I'd also like to point out that ending everything with "thanks," even when you've just insulted someone, is very condescending, and the shallow attempt at "politeness" just comes off making you look even more arrogant. But I know you don't care. You're just too damn cool to let this affect your certainty of your own awesomeness.
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Oh yeah, you guys are talking about cyclotron work.
I'm sure that you have developed hypotheses, used rigorous testing, have defined acceptance and rejection criteria, etc--the same way those guys at Fermilab do.
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Do you think noss4 does what he does to add to the knife community in some valuable way? Or do you think he does it because he gets some kick out of the notoriety that he's received in this small corner of the world? Honestly, I can't decide (or know) definitively one way or the other. Probably, the truth is somewhere in the middle. I'm sure it doesn't really matter for some people, but I've never been one to separate entirely the art work from the artist.
Yeah, I know. Making an analogy between breaking knives and artistry is sort of like taking a dump and calling it a masterpiece. That said, I have passed a few "Rembrandts" in my time.
My point is that I've never really gotten past all the naïve ego that noss4 displayed in his earliest posts. With more recent statements like, "I have produced work that will endure. Your talk will fade like an echo," it just seems like he still enjoys the attention more than anything else. We have a name for that behavior over in a couple of other subforums, but I try my best not to call names out here in the rest of BFC.
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Perhaps Hlee has contributed to science in general. He has certainly showed an understanding of what the scientific process is, which is more than I can say for some of the folks posting in this thread--especially the ones claiming that there is "scientific knife testing" going on here. So far, nobody in this thread, as far as I can see, has "contributed" to "
scientific knife testing".
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Perhaps Hlee has contributed to science in general. He has certainly showed an understanding of what the scientific process is, which is more than I can say for some of the folks posting in this thread--especially the ones claiming that there is "scientific knife testing" going on here. So far, nobody in this thread, as far as I can see, has "contributed" to "
I resent that remark!
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have metal samples I need to analyze with my Tasco microscope.
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I resent that remark!
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have metal samples I need to analyze with my Tasco microscope.
You and everyone else know who I am referring to. Do I have to come down there and open a can of whupass?
Don't give me that crap, Guyon; even in 10-uh-C they know what science is.
(Even if the Vols have a bigger budget than the Physics department
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why do the critics have to perform tests to have an opinion about your methods? i'm not in politics, but i do have political views, and sometimes i express them.You know you critics are just full of hot air. You sit on you ass in front of your PC, bitch about everything an everyone doing testing. You preach your knowledge. You preach you know how it is supposed to be done. And guess what you produce nothing. A Big fat 0 Why do I have fans ? because I'm doing it an you are not. The results I acquire are miles ahead of anything you are acquiring since you produce a big fat 0 So people can come to my site an pick up whatever info they want from the tests. Or they can come to you the critics an get exacly what you offer 0
I can call my site whatever I want to call it. You have no say in it. You don't own me. You don't control me. I'm sure this just pisses you off but tough for you.
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I agree with your estimation, and I don't think Noss has any reason to stop. Seems very few people, no matter their feelings about him, are able to avoid watching the vids or posting about the methods. Every question of the scientifical methodicalness is a free bump.
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I agree with your estimation, and I don't think Noss has any reason to stop. Seems very few people, no matter their feelings about him, are able to avoid watching the vids or posting about the methods. Every question of the scientifical methodicalness™ is a free bump.
Case in point...
This thread just keeps giving up the good lines.
Who will survive and what will be left of them?
Free bump.
Edit: If I want to use "methodicalness™," where do I send the royalty checks?
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