rust on Blackjack II 1-7 blades

K.V. Collucci said:
What you are still failing to comprehend is that BRK&T did not make the blades on your knives. This has been proven time and again. Ken Warner & Blackjack Knives ground the blades, BRK&T attached the guards, handle and pommel, the knives where shipped back to Ken Warner and sharpened and distributed by Blackjack Knives.
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An extensive process that would leave residual solvents, epoxys, human oils requiring CLEANING.
 
CDNWIDE said:
An extensive process that would leave residual solvents, epoxys, human oils requiring CLEANING.
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Which would ultimately fall on Blackjack Knives prior to sending them out to the retailers.
 
The analysis of our BRKT-haters here is that, in sharpening and packing the knives (just as in the hater's respective handling of the knives,) it is impossible that anything was done to increase the chances of rusting.

They also assume that it is impossible that there is anything about the making of the blades that could have caused enhanced rusting.

Therefore, it MUST have been BRKT that is responsible for the rusting.

OR they could be rejecting all the information from BRKT AND Blackjack about who did what in the process of getting these knives to market becasue it does not fit their accusations.

No fair-minded person would accept these assumptions as the basis to denounce a company. A fair-minded person would want facts, rather than assumptions, before making an accusation and/or would not reject relevant information from those with firsthand knowledge.

These are not fair-minded persons.

But at least they are intransigent and insulting in their error.
 
K.V. Collucci said:
What you are still failing to comprehend is that BRK&T did not make the blades on your knives.
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So what. Mike Stewart said in several posts that BRKT made these Blackjack 2 1-7 knives. Now he changes his statements to say that BRKT only assembled the knives. So what. Next, Mike will say that he contracted the making of these knives to someone else. So what. The fact remains that BTKT handled these knives after the blades were made.

What is the sense trying to discuss this with a loud-mouth, insult-hurling chap such as yourself. I think these forum members learned plenty abut you in your previus posts.
 
whitie said:
So what. Mike Stewart said in several posts that BRKT made these Blackjack 2 1-7 knives. Now he changes his statements to say that BRKT only assembled the knives.
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And, unfortuantely for your accusation, Blackjack and the other subcontractor who made the blades says BRKT only assembled the knives. Just can't deal with reality, can you? Gets in the way of your accusations does it?

So what. Next, you will says Mike shot JFK?

The fact remains that the other subcontractor, Blackjack, and you handled these knives after the blades were made.

What is the sense trying to discuss this with a loud-mouth, insult-hurling chap such as yourself. I think these forum members learned plenty abut you in your previous posts.
 
whitie said:
What is the sense trying to discuss this with a loud-mouth, insult-hurling chap such as yourself. I think these forum members learned plenty abut you in your previus posts.
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Loud mouth and insulting?! I beg to differ. I am simply trying to understand your logic. If anyone here is insulting it is you by insulting our intelligence. If they learned anything about me it is that I will come to the defense of anyone who is wrongfully accused and will stand behind anything I have to say.
 
whitie said:
The fact remains that BTKT handled these knives after the blades were made.
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So did Blackjack, the retailer and so did (drum role please).......YOU.

And yet they only rusted when you had them?????
 
The Last Confederate said:
So did Blackjack, the retailer and so did (drum role please).......YOU.

And yet they only rusted when you had them?????
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My goodness you shoot yourself in the foot a lot! You're not a professional are you? So, since the consumer is the ultimate owner HE must be responsible for the rust?
 
CDNWIDE said:
My goodness you shoot yourself in the foot a lot! You're not a professional are you? So, since the consumer is the ultimate owner HE must be responsible for the rust?
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When he is the FINAL owner in a chain and the one who stored them and they only rusted AFTER his handling of them, then even the kids on Sesame Street could figure that out.

This thread was brought to you by the letters "B" and "S".
 
The Last Confederate said:
Which you did before you applied Ren-Wax didn't you?
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I thought that it wasn't Mike's fault because it took a while to ship, sharpen, store, ship again to retail, sit on shelf, ship again to customer, and then see rust. shouldn't it have rusted from any remaining contaminants well before the customer got it?
 
I have read this entire thread and my conclusion is that whitie and cdnwide's parents shouldn't allow them to handle sharp objects and should seriously consider giving the two their pacifiers back.

Any end line nimrod who can't clean a carbon steel knife prior to storage to protect against the possibility of contaminants being on the blade prior to preservation substances being applied should find another hobby, like collecting beanie babies, river rocks, commemerative plates, Star Wars memorabilia, or something else with low corrosion potential.
 
The current production Blackjacks have a light oil on them when packaged. Very light.
The sun will rise tomorrow, and 1095 will rust.
We are currently opening all our Blackjacks to check for rust spots, and yes, I expect to find some on knives that have never been opened since they were initially packaged (and I am sure they did not show rust when packaged). Have before, will again. A little polish will make them shiney again.
Any high carbon blades are a nightmare for manufacturers, distributors and dealers. Rust comes from out of nowhere it seems and most end line users seem to hold high carbon to the same stainless qualities as the super stainess steels. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but realize what you are buying.
I personally do not believe fault lies anywhere in the manufacturing line or in the distribution line. It is just the nature of the beast.
Greasing the blade well with Rig or something similar will surely limit this problem, but then the customers complain about all the sticky gooey grease.
These are the facts, as I see 'em.
 
It's plain to see the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald never touched those knives proves he has extremely acidic perspiration. I can only recommend in the strongest possible terms that everyone who has a knife that Lee Harvey Oswald never touched should check it for rust immediately!

Only a loud-mouth, lemon-headed, insult-hurling chap could possibly disagree with that.
 
Cougar Allen said:
It's plain to see the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald never touched those knives proves he has extremely acidic perspiration. I can only recommend in the strongest possible terms that everyone who has a knife that Lee Harvey Oswald never touched should check it for rust immediately!
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Oh please, I have to say

Only a loud-mouth, lemon-headed, insult-hurling chap could possibly disagree with that.
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umm, nothing at all:cool:
 
hardheart said:
I thought that it wasn't Mike's fault because it took a while to ship, sharpen, store, ship again to retail, sit on shelf, ship again to customer, and then see rust. shouldn't it have rusted from any remaining contaminants well before the customer got it?
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Yes, which is why it's MUCH more likely that improper storage by the final owner is the culprit, since they were not rusted when they got them.
 
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