SanRenMu 710

[STR]

It's really amazed me that 4 pages going still no one mentioned to do a real test with those cheapo knives. Are those things as good as the Tenacious which is supposed to be made of the same steel? Not "surgical stainless" crap or even pot steel?

Well, heck buy one of your choice and send it off to Ankerson and find out for all of us. Not that he'll be much interested since he seems to only want to test the hard use ones. But I think he'd probably be able to video it in some uses geared for a EDC user the working man can afford if you ask him.

STR

 

[oxbld]

It's really amazed me that 4 pages going still no one mentioned to do a real test with those cheapo knives. Are those things as good as the Tenacious which is supposed to be made of the same steel? Not "surgical stainless" crap or even pot steel?

Like I mentioned earlier, I used mine just about every day at work. I apologize, I should have given more details. Tasks include cutting down cardboard boxes, opening boxes, cutting string/twine, and opening plastic clamshells. The knife has excelled in all of these extremely demanding tasks. Other than that, I have used it to whittle/cut branches and some other light duty tasks. It holds a good cutting edge for decent amount of time, usually a week or two depending on use. It takes a shaving edge easily with the lansky crock sticks I use. I would say it is on par with any other 8cr13mov blade steel that I have used, which would just be my Spyderco Tenacious. Definitely not super steel, but not crap steel at all. Just a good EDC blade steel.

 

[JeremiahWeaver09]

It is odd. I had the same coincidence happen to me though. A day or so after buying three 710s my bank called me to inform me that someone was trying to use my card to fly from China (HongKong) to Russia or something like that. I'd have listen to the message again to get it all but that was the jist of it. Had it gone through they'd have gotten me for a thousand bucks! As it was they snuck in a Apple mobile me, and people finder fee for two small transactions and when those went through they tried something bigger which threw up red flags. In the end I didn't have to pay for any of it and just got a new card number issued.

STR

btw, did you ever end up getting the 710s ?

 

[A.P.F.]

btw, did you ever end up getting the 710s ?

Do an eBay search of 'SanRenMu 710'.

 

[Ankerson]

Well, heck buy one of your choice and send it off to Ankerson and find out for all of us. Not that he'll be much interested since he seems to only want to test the hard use ones. But I think he'd probably be able to video it in some uses geared for a EDC user the working man can afford if you ask him.

STR

I have been thinking about doing an EDC video series.

Haven't worked out the series of repeatable tasks yet to keep it under 5 mins sofar.

 

[cziv]

Well, heck buy one of your choice and send it off to Ankerson and find out for all of us. Not that he'll be much interested since he seems to only want to test the hard use ones. But I think he'd probably be able to video it in some uses geared for a EDC user the working man can afford if you ask him.

STR

I'll send the SMRU to Ankerson - who's going to send it's clone - the CRK small Sebenza (with computer generated graphics to make it 100% fair)?

 

[STR]

btw, did you ever end up getting the 710s ?

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=761222

Yeah three of them. Flawless each one. In my EDC uses the knife seems to be on par with anything else I carry. For that matter whats wrong with this picture? Why can I buy a $7 to $15 Sanrenmu knife on ebay or a Navy, Land, or Bee knife for around the same money and get a better fit and finish more refined looking product than I can get from a $85 Buck or $150 Emerson? These American companies should be setting the example not being put to shame yet sadly that is the case as I see it. I just received a Buck Bravo for $81.74 after shipping and compared to this $11.80 Sanrenmu after shipping you'd think looking at the two that the Sanrenmu was the more expensive knife! So basically when I hear these American companies complaining my response has to be you are bringing this on yourselves. You can't just say its made in a America so its better, all the while leaving the edges of all the liners and scales with burrs, overhangs, and leave cut lines showing from the laser or stamping machine or send it out with burn marks showing, and dull edges with burrs and get away with saying its better! You want the business? Earn it and go the extra mile to get it, particularly when you are asking 10 times or more the cost. I should not be able to buy a $15 China made knife and get the better knife but apparently thats what is happening here. Well, okay maybe the USA made knife has better blade steel but how much better is it? Is it enough of a difference between 154 CM and 440C or 8Cr to justify ten times the cost diff? Should I really just expect to have to take a new knife I buy made in the USA out to the shop and clean it up the rest of the way once it arrives here? I don't have to do that with the China and Taiwan made knives I've been getting from Cold Steel, Spyderco, or Sanrenmu! In my opinion, these USA companies in some cases are their own worst enemies. You guys better pick up your game before these other companies asking far less but doing far more blow your doors right off and leave you in their wake!
STR

 

[Chris "Anagarika"]

It's really amazed me that 4 pages going still no one mentioned to do a real test with those cheapo knives. Are those things as good as the Tenacious which is supposed to be made of the same steel? Not "surgical stainless" crap or even pot steel?

Of course not. I got some balisongs modeled after typhoon, crap steel. Can't even EDC them for a day. Those are the Chinese Crap.

Now, my SRM: managed to polish the edge comfortable enough for shaving, I shave dry daily in the office using my GB 763 . The only touch up it needs is stropping, I do it on my pants ...

 

[pilote]

nice variety...looks like these are decent cheap knives; if i saw one at the swap meet for $10 (no higher) i might buy one, but no way would i go out of my way to obtain a sebbie knockoff though...

i will stick with kershaw and buck offerings; they got plenty in the $10-20 range.

 

[shecky]

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=761222

Yeah three of them....

Speak the truth, STR.

 

[vortex]

My fear buying a clone of a Axis lock would be the springs and what to do once they break.

Why is it so complicated to have a proper size replacement spring made?

 

[STR]

I've never done it and don't know that its hard or not. I just don't know where I'd get the right material to make one should the need arise.

STR

 

[STR]

I have their small axis model (3rd knife in the pic). They managed to copy the real thing 100%, smooth opening and closing with zero bladeplay. (I experienced a very minimal vertical bladeplay at the Ganzo Snody clone.)

I got that 939 myself because I saw the potential to turn it into a real gem. As it turns out thats one of my newest favorite knives right up there with the Para Military 2. Especially now since I worked my magic on it!

I flipped the clip after making one to fit it and then drilled and threaded me some holes. Then I gave the blade a better splinter picker point and cut the old clip off at the first bend to make a lock stop to prevent over extension problems by hyper flexing it the wrong way. In the end I'm pretty happy with this one.

STR

 

[Ankerson]

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=761222

Yeah three of them. Flawless each one. In my EDC uses the knife seems to be on par with anything else I carry. For that matter whats wrong with this picture? Why can I buy a $7 to $15 Sanrenmu knife on ebay or a Navy, Land, or Bee knife for around the same money and get a better fit and finish more refined looking product than I can get from a $85 Buck or $150 Emerson? These American companies should be setting the example not being put to shame yet sadly that is the case as I see it. I just received a Buck Bravo for $81.74 after shipping and compared to this $11.80 Sanrenmu after shipping you'd think looking at the two that the Sanrenmu was the more expensive knife! So basically when I hear these American companies complaining my response has to be you are bringing this on yourselves. You can't just say its made in a America so its better, all the while leaving the edges of all the liners and scales with burrs, overhangs, and leave cut lines showing from the laser or stamping machine or send it out with burn marks showing, and dull edges with burrs and get away with saying its better! You want the business? Earn it and go the extra mile to get it, particularly when you are asking 10 times or more the cost. I should not be able to buy a $15 China made knife and get the better knife but apparently thats what is happening here. Well, okay maybe the USA made knife has better blade steel but how much better is it? Is it enough of a difference between 154 CM and 440C or 8Cr to justify ten times the cost diff? Should I really just expect to have to take a new knife I buy made in the USA out to the shop and clean it up the rest of the way once it arrives here? I don't have to do that with the China and Taiwan made knives I've been getting from Cold Steel, Spyderco, or Sanrenmu! In my opinion, these USA companies in some cases are their own worst enemies. You guys better pick up your game before these other companies asking far less but doing far more blow your doors right off and leave you in their wake!
STR

I think a lot of it is from cutting corners etc to lower production costs while keeping the Top Executives huge paychecks and Bonuses coming in.

Now if they are putting out knives in that shape they have cut too deep as now the quality is suffering.

Efficiency experts and number crunchers end up killing things like quality in the long run. Once quality isn't important anymore it's the beginning of the end.

I agree, no way should you be able to buy a knife from China for $7 and end up with a better quality knife than one that costs $80 here in the US. That is ridiculous IMO and if that is what's happening they need to close their doors forever because they don't deserve to be in business IMO.

Made in USA is great as long as the quality is there, if not well I won't be buying them.

 

[vortex]

I've never done it and don't know that its hard or not. I just don't know where I'd get the right material to make one should the need arise.

I guess both of the springs should be replaced in case of failure to maintain the same spring tension both sides.

I got that 939 myself because I saw the potential to turn it into a real gem. As it turns out thats one of my newest favorite knives right up there with the Para Military 2. Especially now since I worked my magic on it!

I flipped the clip after making one to fit it and then drilled and threaded me some holes. Then I gave the blade a better splinter picker point and cut the old clip off at the first bend to make a lock stop to prevent over extension problems by hyper flexing it the wrong way. In the end I'm pretty happy with this one.

STR

I like my 939 too. Now it's my dedicated sandwich maker knife because of its awesome slicing ability.
Nice modding! It looks like a flipperless Galyean Turbulence now. :thumbup:
I miss the tip up carry option at mine.

What do you think of its bead blasted finish? I had to polish mine a bit to prevent rusting.

 

[STR]

I guess both of the springs should be replaced in case of failure to maintain the same spring tension both sides.



I like my 939 too. Now it's my dedicated sandwich maker knife because of its awesome slicing ability.
Nice modding! It looks like a flipperless Galyean Turbulence now. :thumbup:
I miss the tip up carry option at mine.

What do you think of its bead blasted finish? I had to polish mine a bit to prevent rusting.

Yeah the springs should work singularly if one breaks. One of the good things about the design would be that in the field or say a survival situation if a spring broke or if both broke you should be able to wedge a stick or something like a small rock or something in there to make the lock bar stay put and still be able to make use of the knife in a pinch.

Bead blasted finishes have never bothered me. If fact I find they are rather maintenance free. With as little carbon and as high a chromium as these scales probably have I doubt they will ever do much more than superficially spot where I live. They may be worse on the coast or in high humidity areas but here where I live I've never had issues even with my bead blasted D2 blades.

STR

 

[kawr]

You know STR has a good point here. I see some dangerous parallels to US made cars vs asian made cars and look how that turned out . I think this is a good thing, competition makes for better products and pricing :thumbup:. Maybe this will motivate status quo knife companies (BM ) to actually give a crap and turn up the quality of their products.

 

[cziv]

I can probably collect their full line for $100 bucks or so ay?

 

[STR]

Probably or just a little over that to get em all I'd think. My brother spent $138 and some change with them to buy what he got but he got Navy, Sanrenmu, Land, and Bee knives. The shipping was like $41 and some change as I recall. So what is that? About $180 after shipping and I think he got like 16 knives or so. The best one I saw in the bunch was a L01 model. That was a nice frickin' knife! He loves the company. Says he hasn't been this excited about a company since he was a kid. I think its because he can buy a lot of knives for less than one used to cost him or pretty close and it gives him plenty to entertain himself with, which keeps him out of trouble with the wife personally because he is not buying a new one everytime he turns around.

STR

 

[Smelly]

you know i think im wrong, the guy i bought from is in Spain i think. his profile lists both hong kong and spain, not sure. his score is 1277 with 100% positive feedback. the person trying to use my credit card may not even be this person, it could be someone totally different, but i thought it was odd that i encountered the same problem after i ordered the sanrenmu from someone overseas.

Hello all
I don't want to be accused of spamming but I am the guy in Spain selling Sanrenmu knives on Ebay. I can assure you that I am not responsible for any fraudulent activity regarding customers Paypal or bank accounts.