ScrapYard Knives

DPris said:
My single experience with Busse was an order a while back for a sizable model that appeared to fit my desire for a large & rugged backwoods blade for a multitude of large blade tasks. The order got lost at least twice, the knife was delayed for several months after the original delivery date passed, communication was spotty, the gal I talked to on the phone two or three times was very friendly but could never explain the order/production/delivery process (she literally had no idea) or exactly what stage of existence my knife was at during any conversation (and apparently could not find out), the extended order process tied up funds on that card without me knowing for sure until those several months had gone by that Busse was even going to deliver the knife, and once I emailed Jerry Busse himself & was told "It shouldn't work like this", the knife eventually showed up.

Denis
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Yeah, I have heard stories like this about the early days of Busse, the order fulfillment process did not go so well.

At the moment, it is easier to buy a Busse (assuming you like the models offered) than a ScrapYard.
 
My experience was about three years ago, hopefully they're doing better now.
Denis
 
I joined the Scrapyard Forum about a year ago and found the folk to be welcoming and helpful answering newbie questions but the actual process of trying to buy a knife was overwhelming and frustrating.

My first 'Ganza' here on Blade Forum was also my last. It was a real eye opener for me, and made me question the tactics and morals of their marketing style.

And as for the secondary mark-up (market) too expensive by over a third.

Yet still I would give them the benefit of the doubt to all this as I think they have many fine designs and certainly are at the fore-front of modern production techniques.
 
STEELWHORE said:
You dont need to be Gold to buy,only to sell.You can still start a for sale thread without being a Gold member but you will incur an infraction.
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I tried to post a Looking to Buy and I received a pop-up telling me I was not authorized. I'll try again. Maybe I messed up.
 
You can't post in the for sale threads unless you have a Gold membership. WIth a registered user - you can respond to an existing thread, only to ask a question about specs, conditions or to post 'I'll take it'. That is about it. The exchange thread is not for chatter, just for business.

In the Exchange Forum - there is a Wanted To Buy Thread. I just noted that there have been no posts there for the last 14 days. Unfortunately, I think you need to be a gold member in order to post a new thread in this section as well.

Your best bet is to keep an eye on the For Sale Production Knives by Individual / Busse subgroup for the right knife to show up. If I recall correctly, you were looking for a dogfather. These do show up from time to time. You are less likely to come across an LE version as these are cherished. Just keep checking to see what becomes available. Truly, if a dogfather is put up for sale there is a strong likelihood that it will be put up there.

Again, others have provided alternate knives. A good one for you to consider as a 'tied you over' knife would be the BK-9 by Becker Knife and Tool. It is lighter than the dogfather by far, but a nice knife and certainly worth the $70 they charge for it.

Other contenders are the Kabar Long Heavy Bowie and Ontario Marine Raider Bowie. Both .25" chunks of carbon that run about $50-60. Somebody gave you the website of Ranger Knives. I do not know if Justin still does customs, rumor was that he was joining forces with Ontario, but it was about 6 mo since I heard anything. Finally, for around $110 you can get the Crowell/Barker Chopper by Browning. By all accounts a superb 10" chopping knife.
 
kgd said:
In the Exchange Forum - there is a Wanted To Buy Thread. I just noted that there have been no posts there for the last 14 days. Unfortunately, I think you need to be a gold member in order to post a new thread in this section as well.
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Actually there have been over 70 posts in the wanted to buy section in the last 2 weeks.You only need to be a gold member to start a for sale thread.
 
mnyshrpknvs said:
I tried to post a Looking to Buy and I received a pop-up telling me I was not authorized. I'll try again. Maybe I messed up.
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make sure to change your user group setting in your profile to gold, and post in the WTB forum, not the for sale forum. just trying to save you a little bit of hassle. :) if it still won't let you post, ask in the service and support section, one of the mods will get things straightened out for you.

the DF is a great, lightweight chopper, but as was mentioned, make sure to check out justin at ranger knives, and keep an eye on the makers forums, too. we have a lot of great makers here who can set you up with a great chopper for a very reasonable price. also, the busse website is still selling the NMSFNO, which has an 8" blade. I haven't handled one, but maybe one of the other hogs could chime in on how it does as a chopper. since they're still available to order, you wouldn't have to deal with secondary-market markups. because you have a little time before your trip, you can be a bit careful with your decision. if you think the price is too high, PM some folks for advice, take a couple days to think about it before you pull the trigger. good luck hunting!
 
Although this is a thread about Scrapyard I feel I must comment on my experience with Busse Knives.

I purchased my first Busse in July. A ASH-1 directly from Busse.
The purchase was easy and excellent and the knife appeared 3 weeks later. That included shipping to South Africa.

Since then I have purchased 6 more. 5 from forum members.....and a NMSFNO direct from Busse. All easy excellent purchases with both Busse and forum members going out of their way to help me.
As for the quality of the knives.....they are unsurpassed for the price.

Please remember Patience is always important when buying limited production knives.
 
STEELWHORE said:
Actually there have been over 70 posts in the wanted to buy section in the last 2 weeks.You only need to be a gold member to start a for sale thread.
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Okay for me, the subforums in the main BF menu are under: Wanted to Buy are listed as Private. I guess a basic member can't access wanted to buy...Thats okay, still got access to captain hook's lair ;)
 
kgd said:
Okay for me, the subforums in the main BF menu are under: Wanted to Buy are listed as Private. I guess a basic member can't access wanted to buy...Thats okay, still got access to captain hook's lair ;)
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aaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhh! no talking bout the place we don't talk bout!;):eek:
 
kgd,

Thanks for the heads-up on the Ranger. I will have made out pretty good today if everything works out. For a cheapy, I bought a Kershaw Outcast for $50 new. I am in line with Brian Goode and have been so for over a year. He contacted me today and has a 18in heavy duty chopper in O1 that I will probably be taking. If the deal goes through on the Ranger it will be a feast instead of famine.

I do plan to get a DFLE though, if one turns up.
 
1kimo4u said:
aaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhh! no talking bout the place we don't talk bout!;):eek:
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everyone knows about spain, and that's nice that he found a site with hi-res scans of the mallorca and the spanish main.
 
Can Busse and it's other divisions still give the same attention to quality if they all of a sudden found themselves swamped with more orders than they can handle.
I don't think so they would probably become just another mass production manufacturer. High mass production of Busse quality knives may not be possible. Maintaining a high resale value is a pound wise (don't be penny wise and pound foolish) good marketing strategy for both seller and buyer.
I do not look forward to the day Busse becomes an all right
so and so quality high volume manufacturer living off the former glory of their name only.
I say when you buy Busse you get top quality and nothing more. I can do without a worthless cardboard customer service rep trying to soup me up. Busses are top quality, not easy to get, generally do not decrease in value, and are backed up by a no bullshit guarantee.
I say get over it just my two cents
 
Nah, when you make something thats damn near indestructable then you dont need customer service. What would you complain about "Hey why cant I destroy the knive you made".
 
akadave2 said:
Nah, when you make something thats damn near indestructable then you dont need customer service. What would you complain about "Hey why cant I destroy the knive you made".
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I disagree with this wholeheartedly. From my experience with the knife community, customer service is at the epicenter of this industry. When so much trust is required of the maker/customer relationship, good customer service shows that trust has been earned and appreciated. When good customer service and a great product go together, it creates an unparalleled experience for the buyer, and the maker's reputation only grows.

If the current business model of the Busse family creates enough customer dissatisfaction, the quality of the product will not matter in the long run. I, for one, don't mind picking up their products thru the secondary market. A good deal is a good deal, no matter what. However, good customer service even through THAT particular avenue goes a long way. It adds to the value of the experience, for both the seller and the buyer.
 
I find Busses's explanation of their policies to be absolutely truthful and straight forward, they shoot straight pool, no coooing no woooing, no smooth talking jive. That kind of honesty is best type of customer service I could ever wish for.
There is a saying a good Diplomat will use just the right words to you to go fuck off roll over and die while making you feel good about it.
Busse provides real customer service not veiled bullshit. Because they have their own cultural practices and are not expert smooth talking sociologist does not make them rotten inconsiderate elitist as some seem to imply (maybe not using those exact words)
 
Imagine someone walking into a store and telling an honest owner who does things a little differently to focus on quality, if you don't run your business they way I think you should, then you don't deserve to be in business.
You are a bad inconsiderate person because you are not able to tickle my ears as well as others
 
4 Ranges said:
I disagree with this wholeheartedly. From my experience with the knife community, customer service is at the epicenter of this industry. When so much trust is required of the maker/customer relationship, good customer service shows that trust has been earned and appreciated. When good customer service and a great product go together, it creates an unparalleled experience for the buyer, and the maker's reputation only grows.

If the current business model of the Busse family creates enough customer dissatisfaction, the quality of the product will not matter in the long run. I, for one, don't mind picking up their products thru the secondary market. A good deal is a good deal, no matter what. However, good customer service even through THAT particular avenue goes a long way. It adds to the value of the experience, for both the seller and the buyer.
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That was tongue in cheek BTW.
 
akadave2 said:
That was tongue in cheek BTW.
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No offense taken, btw. I was, however, just pointing it out, considering the nature of the discussion on this thread.

I've dealt with all types of people in all types of industries, and I've found knife people to be some of the most considerate, thoughtful people I've ever dealt with. I'd like to think that's how it's always been, and that's how it'll always stay.
 
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