Sebenza Faults

i dont have a sebenza. hence, i cannot comment on its quality, but i'm pretty sure what's been said about it is true. period.
concerning the price, for most of you guys [not all though] it's kinda fascinating how you spend thousands of bucks for knifes, and then 300$ for a sebenza is too much. this argument only works for people who are not that much into knifes.
still, i wont buy a sebenza. not because of the price, or the quality [which i believe is good], not because of peeky thumbstuds, but because i dont like the blade design. now how about that one ?

cheez
 
I am a bit confused why certain folks are taking this thread as "inviting Sebenza bashing". Nothing wrong with asking people who own one of the best folding knives made, if there is anything about them that they don't like. Don't get so defensive. No product made for general consumtion is ever perfect. Why? Simply because any design geared up for the general public has to be appealing to too many people. Not everyone likes the same traits.

If someone thinks they are too expensive for a production knife, so what? Price has a lot to do with making the best of something for the general public. Anyone who makes any product, for the public, knows that price is as much of a factor as materials and workmanship.
 
I kinda agree with Jayharley, there's nothing wrong with being critical about anything for whatever reason. I just took delivery on a new large woody and, even though I'm quite favorably impressed with the knife, I do think it should have come equipped with dual thumbstuds as a standard feature.
 
Why is it that every Sebenza thread reverts to a "if you don't like it, it must mean that you don't own one..."...is it that unconceivable?...has anyone thought of the fact that some people don't own them BECAUSE they don't like them (or they have moved on to customs etc.)? Why is it that Sebenza owners are allowed to make blanket statements like "the Sebenza is the best folder in the world. Period." or "The Sebenza is better than all customs" or "the Sebenza has the strongest lock in the world" if they don't own "every folder in the world" or "all customs" for comparison purposes? It's the same logic, isn't it?

RL
 
I'm waiting for the Carson mid-tech to hit the market so I can have the best production knife in the world and be rabid defending it at every turn. And with that knife, I can actually have options on blade finish and shape. What a great concept. Giving a customer added choices for the base knife.

JR
 
I've owned and carried a large sebbie for years and never had a problem, maybe it's just me. I think it's a great knife overall and for the money is a good buy as the quality is second to none. But like many things, there is no one perfect solution to every need.
 
I have a large plain and have had no problems. Most of the time, I carry it in the slip sheath. I like it well enough to have bought a small pheasant tail.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. That simple.







Why did tigger have his head in the toilet?
He was looking for Poo!
 
Where's the popcorn and the soda. I'll just sit in the 3rd row here and watch the show. Don't want to sit in the 1st row as the Sh*t is flying.


Only the person buying a knife can know if it is worth the money to him/her. To each his own . . .

Now play nice!! :D
 
Oh dear - gotta get in one more dance before the music stops!

Yes - I don't like the thumbstud on my Sebenza. But to clarify: I don't like similarly-shaped studs on OTHER knives I own. That's just personal preference. Is it a "design flaw"? I doubt it. Everything else about the knife is great.

As so many others have said: if you don't like it, don't buy it.
 
I've had my large Sebenza around six months now, and I love it. The thumb studd is one of it's features I actually like most. The only kife I have that I like the thumb studd better on is my Microtech LCC. it's a similar shape, but slightly larger, and flattened off acrosss the top. I've never had the Sebenza open in my pocket either, though I've had other knives do it, the detent does a good job in this respect. I don't dispute it happens, but am willing to bet it does so very rarely. The knife seems the perfect size and weight for me. I do like the blade design better on the LCC, but like the weight, feel, clip, and grip shape better on the Sebenza. I also like the security of the titanium frame lock. The knife is tight and very well made, even better in this respect than my Microtech's, and that's saying a lot, because I consider my microtechs are absolutely excellent in this respect! I have to admit that both these knife are better executed than even many of the more expensive customs I own. After owning my Sebenza a few months, I decided that I wished I'd held out for one with a graphic. I called CRK and they gave me the option of sending it to have the graphic done for $55 or buying another faceplate for $100. I sent it in and recieved it back in about two weeks, with the Stars & Stripes graphic flawlessly executed. The Sebenza may not suit your taste, and their's nothing wrong with that, but it suits mine quite well, and I'm quite content with it. I'm not like many folks here, I probably won't wind up with four or five of them, though I may eventually get myself a small Sebenza at some point. No single knife design will ever seem ideal to everyone, but judging by it's popularity, the Sebenza certainly comes closer than most in that respect. It's just a shame that some folks, who don't think as much of it as the rest of us, feel they have to diminish, or hold in check the enthusiasm of those who do, to make themselves feel better. Heck, Sebenza onwers paid $350 or more for a kife they like, let them be happy and excited about it. It would be nice if they could say how great they think their knife is, without fear of being heckled!
 
I love my Sebenzas although I dont think I would buy a small one!!!











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Don't like it? Don't buy it.

I have a little problem with this line of thinking. You mean, if you don't like it don't buy it and shut up about it? How 'bout, if you *like* it, buy it and shut up? That means no one would ever say *anything* about *any* knife.

I haven't been on the forum that long, so I'm a little confused. If no one ever said anything about any knives, good or bad, would it be possible to have a forum at all? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that this is a "KNIFE DISCUSSION FORUM". HELLO!!! Isn't that what we're all doing here? Talking about knives, what we like and don't like?

Oh, I see. It just came to me. Only if your discussion doesn't mention anything derogatory about Sebenzas? Is that the deal? Grow up.
 
No ichor, it's just if you don't like it....then don't buy it.:rolleyes: very simple really.
 
Originally posted by JDBraddy
It's just a shame that some folks, who don't think as much of it as the rest of us, feel they have to diminish, or hold in check the enthusiasm of those who do, to make themselves feel better.
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I was with you all the way until that part of your post...yes, I have encouraged Sebenza owners to temper their comments, but only those that apply to sweeping comparisons...and it certainly isn't because "I want to make myself feel better"...I think it is UNFAIR to the knife industry and it does a great DISSERVICE when people make blanket statements such as "the Sebenza has the strongest lock in the world" AS IF THEY ARE FACTS (have they owned and tested every other knife for comparison purposes? has anyone done any empirical tests? etc.)...it's VERY UNFAIR to custom makers to make blanket statements like "there isn't a custom out there as good as the Sebenza"...while those exact phrases may not have been used in this thread, they certainly have been mentioned over the years...also, I find it in VERY BAD form to attack PEOPLE when they make a negative comment about a KNIFE...how often have we seen people being called an "idiot" because they find fault with the Sebenza? These are the sources of my ill feelings and they have turned me off from the knife COMPLETELY..CRK will get along fine without my sale, to be sure, but Sebenza fans should know that they have managed to turn off at least one person (and I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one).

The question was asked earlier, why Benchmade owners don't fall under the same scrutiny as Sebenza owners...I would think it's because there aren't many "Benchmade is the best in the world" posts...I can recall DOZENS of posts along the lines of "what custom should I buy" and people would respond with "none, get a Sebenza"...I can't recall a single post where someone replied "none, get a Benchmade".

JDBraddy, you want people to let Sebenza owners be enthusiastic about their knives? That's fair....in return, please don't let them treat all other knives as "inferior to the Sebanza"

RL
 
I'm waiting for the Carson mid-tech to hit the market so I can have the best production knife in the world and be rabid defending it at every turn.
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Me too, Jer. I'm even polishing up my stock response, here it is, tell me what you think:

"Hey! If you don't own one you can't say nuthin so STFU!!"

Pretty good, huh?
And with that knife, I can actually have options on blade finish and shape. What a great concept. Giving a customer added choices for the base knife.
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Amen, brother. I can't wait myself.
 
The biggest fault of the Sebenza is that I don't have enough of them. Other than that there are no faults to the Sebenza that are not common to EVERY OTHER KNIFE. ie. you have to sharpen it when it gets dull, the blade will scratch if you use it heavy, etc.
 
Originally posted by Velitrius
Me too, Jer. I'm even polishing up my stock response, here it is, tell me what you think:

"Hey! If you don't own one you can't say nuthin so STFU!!"

Pretty good, huh?
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Vel, That's pretty good. You need to add some more phrases like "no other knife in the world can cut as many strings off my polo shirt with such ease."

Or, maybe a phrase like "If you don't like it, you've obviously never owned, handled, seen, or known anyone who has seen one."

Back to the sebenza... Has it occured to anyone that some of us HAVE seen, handled and used a sebenza and still think it's seriosuly over-hyped and over-rated? I can name 25 knives off the top of my head that have better aesthetics, ergonomics, and usability for me. If you love the sebenza, great, you found a good knife for your needs. Just don't tell me I'm stupid for disliking the knife.

JR
 
Originally posted by artsig1
No ichor, it's just if you don't like it....then don't buy it.:rolleyes: very simple really.
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artsig1:

It's difficult to understand how you missed the entire point of my post. How can you have a knife discussion forum if you don't say anything, good or bad, about the knives? It seems to me that 90% of the opinions on this forum are made by people who haven't owned the knife in question, so what's your problem with Sebenza? Do you say, "If you don't like it, don't buy it" to anyone who expresses negative opinions on any other brand? Or are you just another fanatical Sebenza worshipper (defender)? It's comical the way people come out of the woodwork as if their family background was being challenged. It just a knife! BTW, one can have valid opinions about politicians without ever having owned one. ;-)
 
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