Sebenza Overrated?

[Robert.B]

I'd say jiggy is buried in excrement up to his neck now, nothing left but to tuck tail and run.

 

[JNewell]

Says the guy who has been here what, 4 months?

Nevertheless, it's true.

 

[tradja]

Yeah, I'm just writhing in pain because I was ripped off or can't justify the money I've spent on them.

Please, stop the pain.....

These images are causing me pain. I'm trying to save up for some Magpul classes. I do not need to be viewing pictures such as these.

 

[JNewell]

If you've never owned the knife how can you possibly give any sort of advice? How can you possibly know about quality that you've never carried and used? I'd suggest keeping your advice for things you have experience with.

The miracle of the internet???

 

[risen]

For those that make mention of CRK's marketing, the longer these threads exist, its just more free advertising for CRK

Not completely. As long as others are allowed to voice their experiences with Sebenzas without hassles, even when those experiences aren't gushing the brand, I think folks will be able to make a more informed decision if they're thinking about buying one.

If anything, I think when folks happen upon these threads and see the fanatical posts (what I see as fanatical), it may scare some away.

 

[Jeremy Barnard]

I'm waiting on someone to give me a logical argument as to why one would spend $400 on a knife when they can get a knife that is just as solid, beautiful, sharp, solid lockup, no blade play as a sebenza supposedly has. Anyone can spend their money on what they want I'm just looking for how anyone could possible think they are somehow better because everyone touts ".0005" tolerances. My BMs are insanely tight, no play, etc. Seems like a waste of a couple new benchmades I could have to me. I'm waiting for someone to take me up on my offer so I can be proven wrong.

 

[JNewell]

Yeah, I'm just writhing in pain because I was ripped off or can't justify the money I've spent on them.

Is the double-lug regular factory original, or did you send it back for the other lug???

 

[tradja]

Don't get me wrong I'm sure they're nice and all. I like the guitar one. I don't think the .0005 tolerances mean much. I doubt most if any would even be able to tell the difference Thus making it pointless to put so much time and effort into producing a knife like that will go unnoticed. Though I could be wrong and I'd be happy to take a look at one as I said before.

You have a very strong opinion for having never handled one. I always find surprises at knife shows or get-togethers. Several knives I've handled or owned turned out to be much better or worse in person than my preconceived notions from reading the innarwebs. For example, the Spyderco Stretch was ho-hum to me on-screen, but now I own 2 and they are among my all-star favorites. Swamp Rats in general were another such epiphany for me.

What you're doing is the equivalent of a virgin giving advice about sex, it just doesn't work:thumbdn:.

This is painfully correct.

It's the guys who won't shell out the $$$ for one that put them down constantly. These threads get boring.

...but I can't look away. This is like low-end AR owners and their "just as good" rifles.

 

[Robert.B]

I'm waiting on someone to give me a logical argument as to why one would spend $400 on a knife when they can get a knife that is just as solid, beautiful, sharp, solid lockup, no blade play as a sebenza supposedly has. Anyone can spend their money on what they want I'm just looking for how anyone could possible think they are somehow better because everyone touts ".0005" tolerances. My BMs are insanely tight, no play, etc. Seems like a waste of a couple new benchmades I could have to me. I'm waiting for someone to take me up on my offer so I can be proven wrong.

You have been proven wrong, you're just not intelligent enough for it to have clicked yet.

 

[JNewell]

Wow, I thought these threads generated heat but never any light. I was wrong! Thank you, sir. :thumbup:

Has to be worth every penny.
Can't be overpriced, the years would have washed it into obscurity long ago if it was.

Sometimes we need to look past our own opinions and wallets to see the bigger picture. The picture shows the history of the Sebenza with no rivals in sight.

 

[tradja]

I'm waiting on someone to give me a logical argument as to why one would spend $400 on a knife when they can get a knife that is just as solid, beautiful, sharp, solid lockup, no blade play as a sebenza supposedly has. Anyone can spend their money on what they want I'm just looking for how anyone could possible think they are somehow better because everyone touts ".0005" tolerances. My BMs are insanely tight, no play, etc. Seems like a waste of a couple new benchmades I could have to me. I'm waiting for someone to take me up on my offer so I can be proven wrong.

If and when you handle and use a Sebenza, you might have more information and observations to inform your comparison.

 

[Tony8179]

I'm waiting on someone to give me a logical argument as to why one would spend $400 on a knife when they can get a knife that is just as solid, beautiful, sharp, solid lockup, no blade play as a sebenza supposedly has. Anyone can spend their money on what they want I'm just looking for how anyone could possible think they are somehow better because everyone touts ".0005" tolerances. My BMs are insanely tight, no play, etc. Seems like a waste of a couple new benchmades I could have to me. I'm waiting for someone to take me up on my offer so I can be proven wrong.

Why would someone spend $125 on a Benchmade when they can get the same exact performance from a $50 Kershaw Blur or a $50 Spyderco Endura? Why would someone spend $50 on a Kershaw Blur when they can spen $30 on a Kershaw Whilrwind? Because they buy what they like!

Why would I spend $750 on a custom knife? Because I buy what I like!

Why do you spend $125 on a Benchmade when I think that they don't know how to sharpen a knife in the factory? Because you buy what you like.

 

[risen]

...Honestly, if you just want to buy a knife for cutting things, you can accomplish that with a $10 Made in China PoS. ...

Just because it's $10 and from China doesn't mean it's a POS.

...I think I can understand where you're coming from. You're not the type of person to spend money on a Rolex ...

Actually, I would buy a Rolex, which btw, have been known to go on sale for hundreds (even over $1K) less.

...If you wish to prove your point around here, ... Anything less however and whatever else you have to say will fall flat on its face.

Last time I checked, this was and still is a discussion forum, so as far as I'm concerned, we're all just sharing our own opinion, not trying to prove a point. If this is so, everyone's opinion should be equally viewed & respected. There should be no facial issues. Of course, I realize that's not the case, hence debate.

 

[JNewell]

Noted the text below in bold...yup...

I've never owned one, but I have asked myself the same question.
One of our local shops stocks the Seb, so awhile back I went for a look to see
for myself....

Nice knife. Very smooth and solid lockup. I was expecting bells to go off when holding it, but they didn't... A fault of the knife ? No.
It just didn't grab me the way I had hoped it would. No criticism to be found though.

As Thomas W mentioned, there is a reason this knife has been awarded numerous awards, and continues to have a strong following, as well as maintaining the resale value that they do.

With current machinery that is used, I do have to wonder where the 400 dollar price comes from. I could see it if there was a huge amount of hand work being done, but CNC eliminates a lot of hand work, and there really aren't very many parts to the knife...

That said, if it truly was overpriced, it wouldn't continue to sell in the numbers that it does. People will only over pay for something for so long, before the novelty wears off. There aren't many things that sell for MSRP. I guess CRK could raise the MSRP price, and then sell them at a price lower than MSRP, so maybe some folks wouldn't seem offended. That would probably be marketing genius, not that they need any help.

This subject will never end, but in the mean time, the knives continue to sell in big numbers. I think that really answers the question.

For those that make mention of CRK's marketing, the longer these threads exist, its just more free advertising for CRK

 

[Tony8179]

Last time I checked, this was and still is a discussion forum, so as far as I'm concerned, we're all just sharing our own opinion, not trying to prove a point. If this is so, everyone's opinion should be equally viewed & respected. There should be no facial issues. Of course, I realize that's not the case, hence debate.

This is a discussion forum and we are all entitled to our own opinions. But, how does one form an opinion with no past experience. Once again, this is the very definition of ignorance.

 

[risen]

...yet still believe that this knife has managed to actually fool so many people into believing that it is Not Over Priced nor Over Rated...

Um, it's actually not that many compared to the rest of the Universe, outside of this and/or any other knife-related forum. Remember, there are knife enthusiasts here. The true majority of the population aren't even aware of these exchanges.

 

[Tony8179]

Um, it's actually not that many compared to the rest of the Universe, outside of this and/or any other knife-related forum. Remember, there are knife enthusiasts here. The true majority of the population aren't even aware of these exchanges.

Seriously? Now you're just grasping.

What didn't you like about the Sebenza when you owned or handled it? What made it "not worth it"?

 

[risen]

Says the guy who has been here what, 4 months?

Nevertheless, it's true.

No, it isn't. I was here reading posts way before I ever registered.

 

[risen]

Seriously? Now you're just grasping. What didn't you like about the Sebenza when you owned or handled it? What made it "not worth it"?

No, I'm not. Just stating a fact. I'll repeat, I've never knocked its quality. However, I know about MSRP vs actual cost/s, etc. So, for me, after all was said and done, I walked away feeling they weren't worth the asking price. Again, I'd go $200 - $250, but no more.

 

[four_shore]

it's really a matter of opinion. everyone knows the knife locks up tight, it's sweet and they make cool little designs for aesthetic purposes and yada yada yada. IMO the knife was a b*tch to open and there are plenty of knives that compare for half the price. if you love paying top dollar and it makes you all warm, squishy and relevant in the knife world then more power to ya. i'm willing to bet most sebenza owners pamper their knives then run around praising how durable and strong it is.