Sebenza Overrated?

[Medic1210]

From my experience, it's not overrated, and it's worth every penny of the $385

Now that is a nice looking knife. I really want one with a micarta inlay, but it looks like I'm SOL. I contacted CRK a week or so ago, and was told that they weren't set up to offer that knife in different configurations. Why in the world that would be I have no clue. It's a Sebenza. It uses Sebenza scales, and a Sebenza blade that's just ground differently. Why can't they just take a Micarta inlay set of scales and put the Insingo blade in it? Anyway, that's one I'd pay $400 for, but it looks like I'm not going to get the chance to spend my money. Oh well.

 

[LorenzoL]

Probably because it is a dealer-exclusive model and KnifeArt has the last word about what models are produced. They started with the large Insingo, expanded it to the smaller version and now offer LH versions of both. I think they also offer a variation with double lugs.

 

[Medic1210]

Probably because it is a dealer-exclusive model and KnifeArt has the last word about what models are produced. They started with the large Insingo, expanded it to the smaller version and now offer LH versions of both. I think they also offer a variation with double lugs.

It was a KnifeArt exclusive for one year. That year ended Jan 1, 2011. You can now buy an Insingo direct from CRK.

 

[LorenzoL]

Didn't know that, thanks for the info. I am sure we will see more variations of the Insingo in the future.

 

[Medic1210]

Didn't know that, thanks for the info. I am sure we will see more variations of the Insingo in the future.

I sure hope so, but the email I received from CRK didn't sound real promising.

"Thank you for your email. Selling the Insingo to the public is a new item for us. We are not yet equipped to enter the variety of combinations on the knife you requested. At this time I am not sure how we will offer it. That being said, I can take your order if you provide me with the information requested in the attached order form, but I don’t know when we will (if we do) offer it. Let me know how you want to proceed.

Best regards,

Heather"

Like I said, I only asked for an Insingo with Micarta Inlays. Not sure what exactly they need to be set up for to do that. Just slap an Insingo blade in a set of Micarta scales. No different than putting together any other Sebenza for a customer. It's not like I'm asking for a Damascus Insingo. I'm asking for an inlay. They churn out inlay scales on a daily basis. What exactly do they need to be set up on to slap one of those scales on an Insingo blade?? Oh well, it saves me money at any rate. Honestly, I have more knives than I can physically carry or use, so it's not like I really need another one. Plain Sebenzas don't do anything for me.

 

[Folderguy]

That one is slightly blinged out, I'd say

I wasn't insinuating I owned it, it was posted a while back...when everyone was buying the blinged out models with sapphires set in the handles, I still want a custom unique graphic with sapphire. I tend to read the CRK forum a fair bit, eventually I'll buy one when they right knife comes along (do not want a plain sebenza).

I'd carry a custom too, no point safe queening imo.

EDIT: for an overrated knife people sure do want them (see link below)

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=771640

 

[Jos]

Yeah, the Sebenza is overrated...



NOT!

Can you honestly look at a pic like this and say it's overrated?

Or this:

Or can you look at this and say it's overrated?

Now you don't HAVE to like 'em, but everybody has to admit that the Sebenza is not bad for a production knife? Damn near the best fit& finish you can get! (that being said, I prefer the Mnandi over the Sebenza)

Oh, and I'm not even a Chris Reeve "fanboy", it's been ages since I bought one. Just everytime somebody starts this "overrated" crap I feel the urge to defend them a little bit.

Anyway, I got mine! (like the late col. Cooper used to say)

Well of course we have to beat the dead horse every now and then...

Kind regards,

Jos

 

[Gator97]

Yeah, the Sebenza is overrated...

NOT!

Can you honestly look at a pic like this and say it's overrated?

I sure can, easily Only because just the looks don't do it for me, I have other requirements. Nevertheless, I see no reason why CRK fans or anyone else for that matter has to take my opinion sooooo personally.

Now you don't HAVE to like 'em, but everybody has to admit that the Sebenza is not bad for a production knife? Damn near the best fit& finish you can get!

I don't think everybody "has to admit"... As it was stated numerous times, just the best(arguably) F&F and tolerances don't make a best knife for everybody. Some of the folks expect best knife to have best edge holding and cutting performance.

Well of course we have to beat the dead horse every now and then...

Yeah, except OP explicitly said:

I don't want to hear from the million fans telling me why ther'ye the best but rather from the minority that think ther'ye a bit overrated.

And then CRK fans just couldn't let it happen, someone on this forum considering Sebenza overrated, blasphemy...

 

[kawr]

I sure can, easily Only because just the looks don't do it for me, I have other requirements. Nevertheless, I see no reason why CRK fans or anyone else for that matter has to take my opinion sooooo personally.


I don't think everybody "has to admit"... As it was stated numerous times, just the best(arguably) F&F and tolerances don't make a best knife for everybody. Some of the folks expect best knife to have best edge holding and cutting performance.

Yeah, except OP explicitly said:


And then CRK fans just couldn't let it happen, someone on this forum considering Sebenza overrated, blasphemy...

Let me summarise what you said. I can buy a BM with the same exact tolerances as a sebenza so theres no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a sebenza. If the bolded quoted part was what you really said nobody would of cared and you are entitled to that. You falsely bad mouthed a company when you have no idea how knife manufactoring works and think you're absolutely right when highly reputable knifemakers even chimed in saying otherwise. Troll more.

 

[Noctis3880]

I sure can, easily Only because just the looks don't do it for me, I have other requirements. Nevertheless, I see no reason why CRK fans or anyone else for that matter has to take my opinion sooooo personally.

I can see where you're coming from, but perhaps "overrated" isn't exactly on the mark there. "Just not for me and some others" would be closer. Some people really appreciate fit and finish and close tolerances. I for one, look forward to carrying something like this:

I don't think everybody "has to admit"... As it was stated numerous times, just the best(arguably) F&F and tolerances don't make a best knife for everybody. Some of the folks expect best knife to have best edge holding and cutting performance.

Precisely. So you do admit that it has the best F&F. But while that's good enough for a lot of people, it doesn't float your boat.

Personally, I think my Spyderco Para2 in S90V and Carbon Fiber is my "best" knife in terms of sheer performance. However, I would consider a Sebenza with the nice handle adornments the best "looking" and feeling knife that still has very good performance.

And then CRK fans just couldn't let it happen, someone on this forum considering Sebenza overrated, blasphemy...

Well, I can't make you like what you don't like. I just think it's important to make a distinction between personal preferences/opinion versus a huge blanket statement.

 

[Brutal-Force]

Generally speaking, I would say the Sebenza is over hyped and not so much over rated. It is a genuinely nice knife. Examples like that one:

definitely showcases how nice the knife is. However, I searched around a long time till I found the one nice pocket knife I liked, and though its a little dated now, I really prefer the Cold Steel Black Rhino. It reminds me of a cross between a good old fashioned Buck and a Fixed blade hunting knife. The Sebenza looks almost toy-ish in comparison. Sure Titanium is an awesome metal, but in a Bang-for-your-buck economy, the Sebenza is just a luxury item that is more or less for showing off and not really using.

That being said, I will probably pick up a small Sebenza... eventually.... when I find the design I like, but the picture is a good example of one that I find attractive. I think though, at the time I can probably afford to spend it, there will probably be something new on the horizon that gleams just a little brighter.

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

Definitely not overrated.

 

[Gator97]

Let me summarise what you said.

Oh look who's back You promised you'd stop. Sure, let's summarize, as long as you don't twist the facts again...

You falsely bad mouthed a company when you have no idea how knife manufactoring works

Dude, how many times U have to do the same thing? Again, when you accuse me of something, please quote. In this case, when and where did I badmouth CRK. Quote please, or stop your BS.

 

[effer]

Why not to close this thread already? I think everything has been said already and I'm pretty sure the last 20+ pages is the same thing again (to be honest I haven't read it all).

 

[Gator97]

I can see where you're coming from, but perhaps "overrated" isn't exactly on the mark there. "Just not for me and some others" would be closer.

I think phrases like "my opinion", "I think" clearly convey that idea. OP asked for opinions.

Precisely. So you do admit that it has the best F&F. But while that's good enough for a lot of people, it doesn't float your boat.

Actually, what is "best" F&F and who has it, is a subject for another long debate and I don't really wanna participate in that. Which is why I said arguably best F&F. I don't have any problem if you and all CRK fans believe Sebenza has the best F&F in the world, of all products combined. Your opinion and fine by me.
The part you guys don't get, is that I don't have to admit, or accept or share that opinion. I have my understanding and ideas what is best, Sebenza doesn't fit those criteria, that's it. I don't have to justify, and defend myself because of that.

Well, I can't make you like what you don't like. I just think it's important to make a distinction between personal preferences/opinion versus a huge blanket statement.

It's not worth to me == overrated, is just another opinion. What you are saying is, I can say I don't like it, but at the same time I have to add that I think it's very good at the same time, just I don't like it.
It can't be that I don't like because I think it's bad or not good enough or overrated?

 

[kawr]

Oh look who's back You promised you'd stop. Sure, let's summarize, as long as you don't twist the facts again...


Dude, how many times U have to do the same thing? Again, when you accuse me of something, please quote. In this case, when and where did I badmouth CRK. Quote please, or stop your BS.

I consider it slander to CRK when you say a $100 BM has the same tolerances as his knives. Thats what was said and thats where all this began. NOW you acknowledge that CRK has the tightest tolerances of all production companies and I'm the one twisting facts? You need to stop posting here everytime someone with their own positive opinion on CRK is mentioned.

 

[Noctis3880]

Whoa, just chill everyone:

I think we're getting some messages confused here.

 

[RubiconSS]

If the Sebenza at $385.00 causes such strife... Where is the 495 page thread about William Henry Knives?
If Beating a Dead Horse was a crime this thread would have been on CNN.

 

[Robert.B]

If the Sebenza at $385.00 causes such strife... Where is the 495 page thread about William Henry Knives?
If Beating a Dead Horse was a crime this thread would have been on CNN.

I love to see what happens if someone asks if a Hinderer is overrated!

 

[RubiconSS]

I love to see what happens if someone asks if a Hinderer is overrated!

We may have to build an Ark