Sebenza VS Buck 110

I've broken-down my Seb once in the past few years and it has been through the ringer.
I also laughed at CRK pricing before i knew what was going on, so knowledge and experience is everything.
Get back under that bridge.
 
SPNKr said:
They're targeted at different people, and serve different purposes.
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What does that mean? The targeting I get, because that is accomplished through price, and also legal complications will limit the audience for both. In fact, people can't carry either in several places around the world. But what is the difference in purpose? It has already been established that the Sebenza is perfectly capable of cleaning game, and the 110 is the 'folding hunter'. A Leatherman or SAK, yeah those have different purposes for tools other than the blades. The 110 and Sebenza are both folding knives. By both being folding knives, they can absolutely be compared. Hell, why would anyone buy a Sebenza if they need a knife? The suggestion that they serve different purposes and cannot be compared would be used as an excuse to stick with the 110, because everybody knows that is a knife and was made to cut, for a low price - just ask dad or grandpa. Ask someone to justify $400 for a purpose they can't find outside of cutting, and they will likely balk. Ask them to justify $400 for a higher level of precision in a tool specifically designed to cut, and nothing else, and that maybe will work a little better. Then you can ask the Blade show awards committee.

Does a Bentley serve a different purpose than a Passat, or a Mont Blanc different from a Papermate? No, they serve the same purpose, in the same manner, to different levels of refinement. It isn't an $18,000 bicycle compared to a $2500 car like the Nano.
 
2TONYB said:
I'm sure I was asking myself the same question a couple years ago. Usually the question is Sebenza or Strider in the tactical realm. And....as stated above, the Sebenza is not deemed tactical and Strider is crowned the tactical knife. Yet, they both have sharp edges and lock up similarly. In a tactical situation, I wouldn't feel under knifed with a sebenza, but I may wish I had my Sng. I'm not sure. I don't find myself in tactical situations very often. (except maybe venturing into Mars Hill area of Indy for a late night lunch)
There was a good thread on appreciating fine/expensive knives a while back.
To me,knives are a personal choice based on "likes" affected somewhat by affordability. I've found my "likes" keep going up in price!...but I still like value priced knives as well.
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Where in the world in Mars Hill does one find a "midnight lunch"? Spent many a sweaty night in Mars Hill with my gal :rolleyes: (of many, many years ago) but never found the dining quite up to par.
 
I think we are straying away on the purpose of this thread, which is to send me a buck 110 and a sebenza to evaluate. If everyone in the thread pitches in, you guys can buy me a new sebenza in no time!
 
dflores said:
I think we are straying away on the purpose of this thread, which is to send me a buck 110 and a sebenza to evaluate. If everyone in the thread pitches in, you guys can buy me a new sebenza in no time!
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No, we all got together and decided to buy you ten Buck 110s. They're on the way. Go wait by the mailbox.
 
Never underestimate the power of emotionaly based justification over reality and common sense.
 
Sorry ,other than this,i wont be posting ever again,this is just a course assignment, i chose "knives"
be at ease
 
dinokay said:
No it's a thread started by someone who feels his $30 folder is better than a $400.00 folder and so he's smarter than all the fools buying the sebenza . I say this qualifies as a thread started by a troll.
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If you think this is a troll thread then why did you post a reply and bump it right back to the top of the list? If you think this is a troll thread then you could have just reported it to the moderators. But since this thread is now six pages long and hasn't been locked I guess the moderators don't agree that the OP is a troll and that this is a troll thread.

And I don't know what thread you were reading, but nowhere in this thread did the OP say that he owns a "$30 folder" or that "his $30 folder is better than a $400.00 folder". Nor did he refer to Sebenza owners as "fools". In fact, in post #26 he specifically said that he wasn't downing anyone for owning a Seb. And in post #35 he thanked people for their input and said that he needs to handle a Seb for himself to form his own opinion. Doesn't sound like a troll to me. Maybe you should actually read a persons posts before you label them as a troll.

Why have I taken such an interest in this matter? I just don't like seeing a new member get hammered unfairly because he dared to question the almighty superiority of some peoples favorite knife. And this thread is a perfect example of that. It seems like some people are quick to make knee-jerk reactions and jump on others without actually reading what those people posted.
 
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I can't believe things have gotten so heated here. This was not my intention. I just wanted to open a frank discussion on whether at the end of the day a Sebenza has any more value as a cutting tool than a Buck 110. As of yet other than taking it apart and cleaning it, no one has mentioned any magical properties or feats that the Sebenza can do that the Buck can not. On the other hand I just read in a thread on here that a guy kept stabbing himself in the finger with his Sebenza because of Pocket lint build up. I have never heard of this problem with a Buck, so I would say that Buck 110 is looking just as valuable as a Sebenza in my eyes at this point.

I do need to go handle a Sebenza like I said before. But I do a lot of research and have been pretty dead on whether a knife or a tool that I've never used would be good. That's why I bought my Swiss Tool with out ever handling it.

I still really think we need a strait up head to head with a Sebenza Vs Buck in general every day cutting tasks and maybe some specialty cutting tasks to gauge a clear winner.

thank you
 
The problem is that the Sebenza is not designed to be the best cutter beyond any other knife. There is not a proprietary feature on the Seb, or the Buck, that will prevent other makes and brands from coming ahead depending on the EDC/cutting task. You don't spend the money for a Sebenza just because you need an EDC. This is why I personally don't care for the unconditional recommendations. Some people will be disappointed because they are buying a tool without truly marrying it to their perceived/actual wants and needs. If you want a # of cuts vs # of dollars spent comparison, then no, the Seb is not going to beat many knives out there. It will very likely lose to an Alaskan Guide 110. People don't buy a Seb for the best steel, the best heat treat, the best lock, the best ergos, the best aesthetics, etc. They buy a Seb because it is the symbol of CRK's innovation with the frame lock and CRK's commitment to tolerances, fit, and finish. CRK makes folders other than the Seb, and has redesigned the Seb a few times over the years for the same reason there are dozens of other knife brands and hundreds of other knife models - not a single one of them is 'the best', so they are all built and sold for different reasons.
 
hardheart said:
The problem is that the Sebenza is not designed to be the best cutter beyond any other knife. There is not a proprietary feature on the Seb, or the Buck, that will prevent other makes and brands from coming ahead depending on the EDC/cutting task. You don't spend the money for a Sebenza just because you need an EDC. This is why I personally don't care for the unconditional recommendations. Some people will be disappointed because they are buying a tool without truly marrying it to their perceived/actual wants and needs. If you want a # of cuts vs # of dollars spent comparison, then no, the Seb is not going to beat many knives out there. It will very likely lose to an Alaskan Guide 110. People don't buy a Seb for the best steel, the best heat treat, the best lock, the best ergos, the best aesthetics, etc. They buy a Seb because it is the symbol of CRK's innovation with the frame lock and CRK's commitment to tolerances, fit, and finish. CRK makes folders other than the Seb, and has redesigned the Seb a few times over the years for the same reason there are dozens of other knife brands and hundreds of other knife models - not a single one of them is 'the best', so they are all built and sold for different reasons.
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Maybe he'll listen to you about that. He hasn't listened to anyone else who posted that so far. ;)
 
SpookStrickland said:
On the other hand I just read in a thread on here that a guy kept stabbing himself in the finger with his Sebenza because of Pocket lint build up.
I have never heard of this problem with a Buck, so I would say that Buck 110 is looking just as valuable as a Sebenza in my eyes at this point.
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At this point I'm not sure what you're trying to do. It cut him once, and his bildfold once. Not "kept stabbing him" as you say.
And did you not read he was keeping it in his BACK pocket with his billfold ???
And did you not read the replies telling him his billfold was likely pushing the thumstub over when he moved around???

I think you will be more than happy with a Buck 110(or 10). Its a good knife for the price if you don't mind it being very heavy, and you won't have to worry about a thumbstud.
 
Ken44 said:
At this point I'm not sure what you're trying to do. It cut him once, and his bildfold once. Not "kept stabbing him" as you say.
And did you not read he was keeping it in his BACK pocket with his billfold ???
And did you not read the replies telling him his billfold was likely pushing the thumstub over when he moved around???

I think you will be more than happy with a Buck 110(or 10). Its a good knife for the price if you don't mind it being very heavy, and you won't have to worry about a thumbstud.
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It was the thumbstud then? that is good to know, thanks.
 
hardheart said:
What does that mean? The targeting I get, because that is accomplished through price, and also legal complications will limit the audience for both. In fact, people can't carry either in several places around the world. But what is the difference in purpose? It has already been established that the Sebenza is perfectly capable of cleaning game, and the 110 is the 'folding hunter'. A Leatherman or SAK, yeah those have different purposes for tools other than the blades. The 110 and Sebenza are both folding knives. By both being folding knives, they can absolutely be compared. Hell, why would anyone buy a Sebenza if they need a knife? The suggestion that they serve different purposes and cannot be compared would be used as an excuse to stick with the 110, because everybody knows that is a knife and was made to cut, for a low price - just ask dad or grandpa. Ask someone to justify $400 for a purpose they can't find outside of cutting, and they will likely balk. Ask them to justify $400 for a higher level of precision in a tool specifically designed to cut, and nothing else, and that maybe will work a little better. Then you can ask the Blade show awards committee.

Does a Bentley serve a different purpose than a Passat, or a Mont Blanc different from a Papermate? No, they serve the same purpose, in the same manner, to different levels of refinement. It isn't an $18,000 bicycle compared to a $2500 car like the Nano.
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You didn't quite understand me. You're assuming that people buy knives purely to cut, people buy cars purely to move themselves around, and people buy pens purely to write. I already mentioned that some of us want more from our tools. Maybe I don't want my knife to just cut, I want it to be machined to the highest precision. Now that's just a personal preference of mine, but that's the purpose of the Sebenza and its counterparts in other markets, to satisfy those who want more from their tools than just the utilitarian. It's a purpose targeted at psychological wants rather than physical needs, but a purpose nonetheless. You shouldn't define purposes so narrowly.
 
Hey let me settle this thread really quick.

The sebenza is better, in literally every way.

The buck is a nice knife, and a historically important piece, but so is the sebenza.

Sebenza wins.
 
Tim616 said:
Hey let me settle this thread really quick.

The sebenza is better, in literally every way.

The buck is a nice knife, and a historically important piece, but so is the sebenza.

Sebenza wins.
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Ok, how about you list literally every way the Sebenza is better or at least your top 10?
that would be great

thanks
 
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