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Nice! I'll be adding a Porsche Carrera 4S along with a small Sebenza ivory bark DT Damascus 21, that's if I can find one. The knife I mean.
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Sebenza vs hinderer
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Nice! I'll be adding a Porsche Carrera 4S along with a small Sebenza ivory bark DT Damascus 21, that's if I can find one. The knife I mean.
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I have owned 4 XM-18s (three 3.5" and ine 3"), only one 3.5" didn't flip quickly, but it wasn't even that bad. If a Hinderer doesn't flip to your liking, that's one thing, but I have to disagree with your generalization. I love my Hinderers's flipping action, and I think they really dialed in their detent to perfection on the latest batch of spearpoint 20CVs.
Hinderers are the only knives I have that I can switch out with my Sebenza's, and not feel like I am carrying something I don't like as much.
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I know a lot of people hate these types of questions but I love them. I have owned both as well and still have my Hinderer knives. All of mine are Gen 4 and flip great. Everyone we have in stock seems to have a good detent and flip well as well. There is a short break in period though.
The difference in the 2 is purely the design and what really appeals to the customer/buyer. I like the feel of the Hinderer more as it fits my big hand a little better. I would think the only way this debate could really be settled is to get both companies to open their books and see who has sold more over say the past 5 years. Since that will never happen we will have to call it a tie.
The difference in the 2 is purely the design and what really appeals to the customer/buyer. I like the feel of the Hinderer more as it fits my big hand a little better. I would think the only way this debate could really be settled is to get both companies to open their books and see who has sold more over say the past 5 years. Since that will never happen we will have to call it a tie.
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I've had three XM's, one with a completely un-flippable detent (without wristing it to open), one that was neutral (a trained finger could flip it, without wrist, 90% of the time) and one that's a virtual rocket (the most recent, a Gen4 3.5" bowie).
I would agree with this, I only have one Gen 4 flipping is exceptional and the detent is spot on. I prefer the feel of Hinderer to the ZT flippers I own, although it doesn`t just shout out, it has more of a quality feel to the action.I have always preferred the feel of washers to bearings, my ZZT0550 IMO had a much better feel than say an 0562. Sorry I don`t know if that was off topic or not anyway, I have no issues with Hinderers they are incredible knives. To compare the one to a Sebneza well, they are completely different the Sebenza is also an incredible knife, between the two it comes down to what you are using it for and your own personal preference.
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Thank god! Finally someone with some sense.
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Its no secret these are some of my favorite two manufacturers. I really can't find fault with either Sebs or XMs... just preferences. There are aspects I prefer to the other on each. If I absolutely had to choose one it would be the XM-18 3.5. The only deciding factor is that it is slightly more diverse. A CRK easily outshines a RHK in build quality, no question. But the XM-18 can do anything the Seb can (except look as sexy) and also be a more sure handed knife in an emergency as well as potentially hold up to more abusive tasks.
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Which also hilghts another bonus on the side of the XM, the ability to customize the tool to your liking. So far i have 3 g10 scales and a couple steel flame filler tabs....I haven't gotten into the hardware and clips yet.
The fact of the matter is that they are far too different to do a head to head comparison. The only real similarity that they even have is popularity. They both cut differently, with strong points and weak points. They feel very different in hand and in the pocket. If you can truly appreciate simple, elegant and perfectly executed design the you'll love a sebbie. If you want a beast with fantastic ergonomics and a thick tip with pivot adjustability, you'll love the xm. Or, if you're a crazy knife nut like most of us here, you'll probably love both!
Too gimmicky for me... I'll take a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 any day of the week.
Oh, and with the money saved I can buy all the CRKs and Hinderers I want
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Since all that CRKs and Hinderers do in an objective sense is cut stuff - just like any other knife - the "best" one is the knife that makes the consumer feel the best. That's the real reason that people buy these knives, though not everyone acknowledges it.
Good post^^
Buying a knife is mostly personal feelings and how much you like the knife. Whether it looks cool, has materials you like, or meets other personal requirements. Both of these knives appear to be "worth the money" which is also subjective, but you cannot really say one is better than the other unless you personally own them both, and then it would only be an opinion.
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That is a hard question to answer. I think it really ends up being subjective. You will have those who prefer the Sebenza over the XM-18 and you will have those who prefer the opposite.
If you haven't handled both of them, I would recommend that you do so to help make your decision.
If you haven't handled both of them, I would recommend that you do so to help make your decision.
I've had both (well, actually the I've had all the CRK versions) and the XM-18. I sold the Reeves Sebenza and the Umnumzaan Tanto... although I kept the Insingo. I also sold the Hinderer. Now, for some reason, I can't remember the rationale behind all this and I now have a real bad case of regret.
I will replace the Hinderer and the Umnumzaan... but while the straight Seb is, for me, a gold standard... I didn't find myself reaching for it.
If I didn't have a collection then I'd say the Sebenza is the one knife to own... but if you have a bunch of knives then you might find yourself reaching for something else... in this sense, the communal (i.e. intellectual) opinion about a particular knife will never outweigh a more direct physical relationship to a blade. ;-)
Now... about replacing those blades that I stupidly sold...
Cheers,
flugzeit
I will replace the Hinderer and the Umnumzaan... but while the straight Seb is, for me, a gold standard... I didn't find myself reaching for it.
If I didn't have a collection then I'd say the Sebenza is the one knife to own... but if you have a bunch of knives then you might find yourself reaching for something else... in this sense, the communal (i.e. intellectual) opinion about a particular knife will never outweigh a more direct physical relationship to a blade. ;-)
Now... about replacing those blades that I stupidly sold...
Cheers,
flugzeit
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This is my answer as well. I appreciate what both makers have done for the industry, and they both make good knives, but for the price, you can find innumerable rarer and more interesting knives, including some customs. Just to take an example, I bought this Chuck Gedraitis Model 1 for $395 (it would have been cheaper direct from the maker):
But so as not to derail the thread, I'd go with a large Sebenza over an XM-18.