Attention Select Your Favorite Brown Tone for Sawcut Bone!!

[Old Hunter]

Is it bad that I had absolutely no idea who that was

Don’t feel bad, you are not alone! OH

 

[JohnDF]

I am judging you right now - here is my judging face .

Lol...

Don’t feel bad, you are not alone!

Thank goodness... I was feeling left out.

 

[bigfish64]

Is it bad that I had absolutely no idea who that was?

“Welcome to the Jungle” John!

 

[Jack Black]

Darren's mockups again:

Copperhead Sawcut

Hemlock Sawcut

Right now, a purple knife is winning in a brown poll.

With respect to waverave , that Hemlock doesn't look much like the jigged-bone Hemlock examples that have been shown in this thread

 

[pjsjr]

“Welcome to the Jungle” John!

...and 'Paradise City'

 

[Pàdruig]

Darren's mockups again:

Copperhead Sawcut

Hemlock Sawcut

Right now, a purple knife is winning in a brown poll.

With respect to waverave , that Hemlock doesn't look much like the jigged-bone Hemlock examples that have been shown in this thread

I agree with Jack here. I appreciate all of Darren's efforts, he does a bang up job, but this is one case where I feel it missed the mark. It isn't any fault of his however, there is literally no examples of sawcut Hemlock to use in his renderings. If Hemlock wins, it will be interesting to look back and compare.

 

[Jack Black]

It isn't any fault of his however, there is literally no examples of sawcut Hemlock to use in his renderings.

Absolutely

 

[BrotherJim]

Darren's mockups again:

Copperhead Sawcut

Hemlock Sawcut

Right now, a purple knife is winning in a brown poll.

yeah because that artistic color interpretation looks EXACTLY like the real deal HEMLOCK color huh
( GE Jr 's picture of GEC 66 HEMLOCK)

 

[Leslie Tomville]

Actually B BrotherJim , they look more similar than I thought when you put them side by side like that. Bill Howard warned us that the saw cuts on this Barlow will be pronounced and the dyes will show as very dark. That dye on a Sawcut knife might end up showing completely monotone. We can only hope there is some color as shown in Darren’s mock up, but it might be just plain Blackish Brown throughout.

Bill Howard is a man of few words. When he speaks, there is probably a good reason. We keep comparing Jigged Hemlock knives with how we THINK a Sawcut version will look. I would rather defer to Bill Howard than our speculations. Ignoring what he has said and wishful thinking will not change the outcome. Yet we continue to do so.

I just take him at his word. I believe he says what he means.

 

[BrotherJim]

Actually B BrotherJim , it looks closer than I thought when you put them side by side like that. Bill Howard warned us that the Sawcut will be pronounced and the dyes will show as very dark. That dye on a Sawcut Knife might end up looking completely monotone. I only hope there is some color as shown in Darren’s mock up, but it might be plain Blackish Brown. Bill Howard is a man of few words. When he speaks, there is probably a good reason.

You're reading into Mr Howard's message. I just take it at face value without your extrapolation ... fewer words and all. Unless you know him very well or work for him and are Mr Howard's spokesperson, read it the way you will of course.
And you seriously need to upgrade your monitor if you think the artistic interpretation and real deal look the same ... or even close. CLUE: One is purple and the other brown

 

[unwisefool]

Yeah, the "Red Menace" one.

That thread wasn't bad at all, I've seen uglier conversations at a septuagenarian bingo tournament.

 

[unwisefool]

Darren's mockups again:

Copperhead Sawcut

Hemlock Sawcut

Right now, a purple knife is winning in a brown poll.

This just makes me want hemlock more!

 

[draggat]

If the knife gets carried a bit, the handles will lighten up and if it's copperhead, you'll eventually have an orange knife. Hemlock, eventually a beautiful reddish brown. I imagine a bit of flitz on a buffing wheel with a dremel will lighten that Hemlock a bit and allow that beautiful mahogany color to show through a bit more. I've done that to other knives in the past and it works pretty well. Win win for the brown crowd

 

[Leslie Tomville]

This is a less professional photo of Hemlock and more how the ones I have seen look. Darren’s mock up shows more color. Believe me, I hope I am wrong and that our Forum Knife shows beautiful red and mahogany highlights around the bolsters and on the edges. And I hope that the Sawcut area is not black. My only point is that wishing don’t make it so.

 

[Old Engineer]

I think Bill has an idea too, and is why he thought it prudent to make sure people knew it would be dark.

The lack of contrast IMO is just ... plain boring. I wasn't a red voter but would much prefer red over plain like the hemlock shows. The copperhead has good contrast and those saying "it's been done" ... there is a reason it has. It makes for a sharp knife.

And those that say you can get copperhead ... how many here can post a picture that they actually have a copperhead? It's not that simple.

Here is one : I only have this picture of a Sawcut Copperhead because I prefer to carry other colors .

There have been many other photos posted earlier that show it better than mine .

Harry

 

[BrotherJim]

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This is a less professional photo of Hemlock and more how the ones I have seen look. Darren’s mock up shows more color. Believe me, I hope I am wrong and that our Forum Knife shows beautiful red and mahogany highlights around the bolsters and on the edges. And I hope that the Sawcut area is not black. My only point is that wishing don’t make it so.

... and if you look at it in the same lighting as your "less professional" Hemlock example, this might be how Copperhead looks ...

 

[JJ_Colt45]

Here is one : I only have this picture of a Sawcut Copperhead because I prefer to carry other colors .

There have been many other photos posted earlier that show it better than mine .

Harry

A good looking pair Harry .. thanks for sharing! My comment was just meaning some had been saying that Copperhead has been done and someone could get one already, but they are next too impossible to get your hands on. Not at all common, and just because copperhead has been made before doesn't make them any less desirable.

 

[Pàdruig]

I decided to take a deep dive, for no other reason than that I was curious. I wanted to see how many times the two frontrunning colors have been used in the past, so I perused GEC's production totals and did a search for both. My findings were a bit surprising.

It should demonstrate that Hemlock Green is a color that is not as rare as we thought and is more desirable than some might conclude - and, I might add, it is older than Copperhead (by GEC's standards, anyway).

Copperhead (Jig, Sawcut, Pick Bone, and Pony Cut)

Hemlock (Jigged)

 

[r8shell]

Actually B BrotherJim , they look more similar than I thought when you put them side by side like that. Bill Howard warned us that the saw cuts on this Barlow will be pronounced and the dyes will show as very dark. That dye on a Sawcut knife might end up showing completely monotone. We can only hope there is some color as shown in Darren’s mock up, but it might be just plain Blackish Brown throughout.

Bill Howard is a man of few words. When he speaks, there is probably a good reason. We keep comparing Jigged Hemlock knives with how we THINK a Sawcut version will look. I would rather defer to Bill Howard than our speculations. Ignoring what he has said and wishful thinking will not change the outcome. Yet we continue to do so.

I just take him at his word. I believe he says what he means.

I understand what you're saying. Bill told us that hemlock will likely come out very dark, so we should take that into consideration when choosing a color.
The term "warned" implies that dark is a bad thing. That's only true if you don't want a dark knife, and would prefer a lighter one. If you like dark bone, it is more a promise than a threat.

... and if you look at it in the same lighting as your "less professional" Hemlock example, this might be how Copperhead looks ...

That looks good to me. (unless sawcut white makes a miraculous comeback)

 

[JJ_Colt45]

I decided to take a deep dive, for no other reason than that I was curious. I wanted to see how many times the two frontrunning colors have been used in the past, so I perused GEC's production totals and did a search for both. My findings were a bit surprising.

It should demonstrate that Hemlock Green is a color that is not as rare as we thought and is more desirable than some might conclude - and, I might add, it is older than Copperhead (by GEC's standards, anyway).

Copperhead (Jig, Sawcut, Pick Bone, and Pony Cut)

Hemlock (Jigged)

Thanks for looking up the numbers.

I think this is going to be an exceptional knife no matter which color ends up on it. And I'm hoping if it's hemlock Bill can sprinkle some magic in there and get more contrast than the pictures shard.