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troutfisher13111
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Are you like twelve, nice resort to name calling.
The mountaineer is practical no matter how you look at it. Its a fine quality blade with a bonus of the hollow handle. It is extremely well made and warrantied for life. If your gripe is the cost of a CR go talk to the Busse boys. besides, its not my usual carry and in fact the wife has been carrying it since she saw the "when cougers attack" show. My regular carry is this...
I have to say, that is one sweet set up!:thumbup:
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i see the locals are restless again.
the main issue i have with the reeve fixed blades is the grind. a2 is a good steel and and the quality is up there as well, but i wouldn't choose a hollow ground blade for serious use. i prefer flat or convex grinds on my fixed blades. the ranger rd series was a hollow sabre grind from what i remember, but he then switched to full height flat grinds and plenty of people commented on how much better they cut and bit in while chopping. the handles (on the reeve) may be a bit uncomfortable but i've never held one so can't comment on that aspect.
the main issue i have with the reeve fixed blades is the grind. a2 is a good steel and and the quality is up there as well, but i wouldn't choose a hollow ground blade for serious use. i prefer flat or convex grinds on my fixed blades. the ranger rd series was a hollow sabre grind from what i remember, but he then switched to full height flat grinds and plenty of people commented on how much better they cut and bit in while chopping. the handles (on the reeve) may be a bit uncomfortable but i've never held one so can't comment on that aspect.
My name is shown as is my town. You should be able to find me. Why the hesitancy to talk in public?
Just because I have a life and don't post non-stop doesn't mean that I don't have something to say.
Chad
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Concerning the original post, not sure how small you are wanting /needing to go in your package but I carry the standard altoids tin packed with all the regular stuff in my backpack to work.
An altoids tin in my pack or Jacket is great, but it is crammed so full, was a little to heavy to carry in my pants pocket all the time.
That being said, In my pocket I just started carrying a life capsule which has a sparklight mag block/striker, button compass, a little duct tape (primarliy for a wind base for the mag),cotton, yarrow, exacto knife blade, needles/thread, a couple of saftey pins, and some kevlar like string which is wrapped around the end of the handle side of the mag block.
The capsule is 4' long, with a little over 3/4s of an inch in diameter for storage.
I already carry a Multitool,folder and a pocket LED most of the time too.
An altoids tin in my pack or Jacket is great, but it is crammed so full, was a little to heavy to carry in my pants pocket all the time.
That being said, In my pocket I just started carrying a life capsule which has a sparklight mag block/striker, button compass, a little duct tape (primarliy for a wind base for the mag),cotton, yarrow, exacto knife blade, needles/thread, a couple of saftey pins, and some kevlar like string which is wrapped around the end of the handle side of the mag block.
The capsule is 4' long, with a little over 3/4s of an inch in diameter for storage.
I already carry a Multitool,folder and a pocket LED most of the time too.
Its the net dude. You should take care too. Fully open to pm conversation with anyone.
Skam
Dont be paranoid, its not a threat its sarcasm pointing out the reason most dont give personal info over the net.
You want to discuss issues pm me, I'd be happy to.
Skam
Dont be paranoid, its not a threat its sarcasm pointing out the reason most dont give personal info over the net.
You want to discuss issues pm me, I'd be happy to.
Skam
I don't see why you won't discuss your credentials in public. Guess what your name and address are in the phone book. If you own a house they are on the assessors website.
Not posting who you are on a knife forum will not keep you safe. It will stop people from finding out that you are 13 and hiding behind anonymity to make your personal attacks and baseless proclamations.
Chad
Maybe this should be taken elsewhere. I thought we were talking about hollow handles. How much room is actually in the Lile hollows and the Reeves handles? Personally, I think it's an idea that was well intended in the respects that you don't lose your knife. Then what do you do? Your knife, in my opinion, is the most important piece of equip. in the woods. At least with a sheath with a pouch to store your gear in you have less a chance of losing the sheath and keeping your gear.
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Gentlebeings, we provide this forum for you to share information about Wilderness & Survival Skills -- not to talk about each other. Please try to keep that in mind.
I can assure you this is not the case. Again (for the final time) if you want to discuss it PM me.
Skam
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I see the hollow handle as allowing extra stuff to be carried, not replacing a kit on the sheath, in a pocket, etc.
I had an original Aitor Jungle King about 25 years ago, it's still in my car for emergencies (if it gets nicked, no problem) and has been well beaten. It was around the time that the Chris Reeves knives were made in South Africa. I'm another old git! I think I remember them (Reeves) being first 'launched' in the UK. I could never even think of affording one then. Just as well really; see further down.
I just had a condom, iodine water purifying tables, cotton wool, birthday-cake candles, a couple of lifeboat matches with striker strip and a ferro rod in mine... Water and Fire! It duplicated items in my pocket kit, not replaced them. I saw it as a way of having the most basic essentials, even if I lost my other kit. I would make darn sure I didn't lose my knife! As you say, it's the most important piece of equipment in the woods (after my brain and hands).
Anyway, I don't have a Chris Reeves knife, or any other hollow handle knife, simply because I found that I really don't like round metal handles. They are cold and give no indexing. I very much like the extra little bit of storage, especially as it is waterproof. The Chris Reeves knives were superb 20-odd years ago; they still are and if I got along with the handle I would certainly have several. Nothing Ramboesque at all; just extra storage on the most important piece of kit. For those in warmer climates, who are OK with the round grip, they are a great choice.
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A Little History on one of the more famous hollow handle knives: The Ingraham-Randall Attack-Survival Knife
On January 8th in 1963 W.D. "Bo" Randall received a nicely typed letter from Capt. George W. Ingraham, Medical Corps, United States Army.
Capt Ingraham was with the 94th Medical Detachment and traveled about Vietnam on the old CH-21C helicopters.
He wrote basically that a lot of helicopter crews had a large possibility of crashing in the jungle. The crewman had to survive the crash, get out of the aircraft, construct a shelter, find water, possibly continue to fight the enemy with the knife, and signal rescue aircraft who are looking for him and his crew.
He recommended taking a Model #14 knife and adding the following modifications:
1) Sawteeth (to cut aluminum or plexiglas, etc) in freeing personal from the crashed aircraft.
2) A LARGE brass guard (like a WW-I trench knife) with a special round handle that would have a screw-on butt plate. The handle compartment would have: matches, dexedrine pills, demerol tables (for burns), 12 water purification tablets, 10 Codeine pills, possibly some fish
hooks, and some snare wire.
3) The handle would be covered with fishing line, followed by long leather shoe laces, followed by surgical tape.
You notice that the majority of the items added to the normal Military Survival items, not replace them.
Mr Randall's final design of the Model #18 knife did not exactly follow Capt Ingraham's suggestions but did do all of the thinks that Capt Ingraham wanted (except for the Trench knife feature).
My point is one of the first "Tube Handle" knives was not designed for the typical stuff that people want to put into them today. I have never heard of an original Ingraham-Randall knife ever failing in use either.
OMT
On January 8th in 1963 W.D. "Bo" Randall received a nicely typed letter from Capt. George W. Ingraham, Medical Corps, United States Army.
Capt Ingraham was with the 94th Medical Detachment and traveled about Vietnam on the old CH-21C helicopters.
He wrote basically that a lot of helicopter crews had a large possibility of crashing in the jungle. The crewman had to survive the crash, get out of the aircraft, construct a shelter, find water, possibly continue to fight the enemy with the knife, and signal rescue aircraft who are looking for him and his crew.
He recommended taking a Model #14 knife and adding the following modifications:
1) Sawteeth (to cut aluminum or plexiglas, etc) in freeing personal from the crashed aircraft.
2) A LARGE brass guard (like a WW-I trench knife) with a special round handle that would have a screw-on butt plate. The handle compartment would have: matches, dexedrine pills, demerol tables (for burns), 12 water purification tablets, 10 Codeine pills, possibly some fish
hooks, and some snare wire.
3) The handle would be covered with fishing line, followed by long leather shoe laces, followed by surgical tape.
You notice that the majority of the items added to the normal Military Survival items, not replace them.
Mr Randall's final design of the Model #18 knife did not exactly follow Capt Ingraham's suggestions but did do all of the thinks that Capt Ingraham wanted (except for the Trench knife feature).
My point is one of the first "Tube Handle" knives was not designed for the typical stuff that people want to put into them today. I have never heard of an original Ingraham-Randall knife ever failing in use either.
OMT
Hi all, I carry a Reeves shadow III as my every day carry knife. It is one of the best fuzz stick makers I own. It will slice and dice a wild turkey with no problem and with a twist of the handle I can pull out the contents inside
and start several hundred fires ( fire steel) catch fish and game with ( fish and line ) sew up a tear in my clothing ( needle and thread ) I also have a small scaple blade. This gear is just extra gear to have with me. next to the
shadow III is a small pouch with more survival goodies in it too. When I was in the first gulf war with the First Battlion Seventh Marines at one point during the ground war I was assigned to a recon platoon. We had come under fire from the enemy and and my 782 gear got cought in some razor wire of some type and I left it there All I had was my M-16 with one loaded mag, a cold steel tanto and a small pouch of suvival gear in it. Later after all the shooting was done I was able to go back a retreive my but pack, canteens and extra ammo. So there we have it a ONE knife situation and a small pouch of suvival gear ,But if I could have had a Reeves knife back then and still had more gear with in the hollow handle I would have. I find the round handle ok to work with I and my wife live full time in a 5th wheel camper and right out my camper door is a fire pit I am fortunate enough to have a camp fire when I want and do shave up fuzz sticks and strike my fire steel into some thisle down or milk weed down and have a fire for roasting weenies and marshmellows ( just did this today for lunch ). For my living my wife and I cut trees and get quite a bit of wood for are selves to burn.
Having a hollow handle knife with some more insurance ( survival goodies in in the handle ) just makes senes to me. I use my knife daily for cutting chores and it works for me. What works for some might not work for others.
Just my two cents worth.
Bryan
and start several hundred fires ( fire steel) catch fish and game with ( fish and line ) sew up a tear in my clothing ( needle and thread ) I also have a small scaple blade. This gear is just extra gear to have with me. next to the
shadow III is a small pouch with more survival goodies in it too. When I was in the first gulf war with the First Battlion Seventh Marines at one point during the ground war I was assigned to a recon platoon. We had come under fire from the enemy and and my 782 gear got cought in some razor wire of some type and I left it there All I had was my M-16 with one loaded mag, a cold steel tanto and a small pouch of suvival gear in it. Later after all the shooting was done I was able to go back a retreive my but pack, canteens and extra ammo. So there we have it a ONE knife situation and a small pouch of suvival gear ,But if I could have had a Reeves knife back then and still had more gear with in the hollow handle I would have. I find the round handle ok to work with I and my wife live full time in a 5th wheel camper and right out my camper door is a fire pit I am fortunate enough to have a camp fire when I want and do shave up fuzz sticks and strike my fire steel into some thisle down or milk weed down and have a fire for roasting weenies and marshmellows ( just did this today for lunch ). For my living my wife and I cut trees and get quite a bit of wood for are selves to burn.
Having a hollow handle knife with some more insurance ( survival goodies in in the handle ) just makes senes to me. I use my knife daily for cutting chores and it works for me. What works for some might not work for others.
Just my two cents worth.
Bryan
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And there it is: extra insurance. That's what it's about.
Indeed, that's why we are blessed with an abundance of designs, styles, profiles, etc etc. It keeps life interesting that we like different things. There wouldn't be much point being a knife nut if there was only one perfect knife for everyone.
Well said that man!
Now don't anyone go and bash the current "survival" knives too quickly. Remember that it could be the only knife on you when a knife is needed. That said,Chris Reeves knives arent that expensive by todays standards. Why would I say that? Because I bought a real Jimmy Lile survival knife over twenty years ago for $660.00. Yes the decimal is in the right spot. Now mind you ,this was his second version of the "First Blood" knife called the Sly2. The serial numbered versions were any where from $1,500 to $1,000 depending on serial number but i ordered too late. I talked to Jimmy to see if he could do a few things on the knife that would make it look more like the movie knife but he said it was not possible due to the concerns about the collector values of the originals. He and Stallone kept the first thirteen. I asked what the price was if I wanted to buy one and his response was $13,000. Now the only downfall of the Jimmy's design that I see is where the handle meets the hilt and tang. I feel that it would have been a more robust knife if he would have welded the pieces together. Chris's knives are one piece which I think is cool. I think the compass in the butt would be a nice touch as well as some high strength cord wrapped around the handle like the Lile would dispell any problems with the knurling.
I dont think that chris reeve is aiming for the rambo crowd - I personally think that the hoolow handle is a great idea. A great way of supporting redundancy, increasing storage without losing out on strength. I however dont like round handles but wouldnt mind at all if I was given one. Calling it Rambo may be a bit excessive - it would be like calling people who practice primitive fire making cave men. Its just a matter of choice.
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Forums can be an incredibly useful thing. I have totally given up on them being much more than entertainment stained with a bit of information swapping. I am sick to death of turds who constantly get a word like "RAMBO" in their craw and they beat the horse to DEATH. Fuckin' get over yourselves, get a life. Take your Busse and stick it up your ass. I mean, fuck, really. Yes, also, by all means, you little funky bitch, report this post. I have a book to write about all of this stuff and it's really getting old that the agenda trolls are not being taken to task...