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[Yosemite Sam]

I do have a question about that; Is a wharncliffe called a wharncliffe if it has the handle shape, but has a clip blade instead of a wharncliffe blade??

As I understand it (and I have been known to be wrong on occasion) Wharncliffe refers to the blade shape only. There are, of course, Wharncliffe fixed blades, too. I've seen Wharny bladed the whittlers referred to as W(h)arnclif(f)(e) whittlers as well as Seahorse whittlers, though the latter may be Case's trademark name.

"Wharncliffe" comes from an English Lord Wharncliffe, and he designed the blade. Handle terminology probably followed.

-- Sam

 

[Arathol]

While that S&M is a dogleg and has unequal ends, its still a serpentine because the handle has two opposing bends in it. Not all serpentines are doglegs, but doglegs are generally considered a variation of the serpentine pattern.
The Wharnecliffe name is usually applied to a knife with a blade that has a straight edge and a long curving spine, an elongated sheepsfoot design. Two knives can look the same but a difference in the design of the main blade can result in each knife having its own name.
Here is an example- On top is a Case 5355 Wharnecliffe.
On the bottom is a knife that has the same handle shape, but with a deep clip blade. In this case its Case pattern# 63043 1/2, commonly called a carpenters whittler. Note that both have the unequal-end serpentine dogleg shape.

 

[waynorth]

According to B.R.Levine, a knife can be called a Wharncliffe by the handle shape alone. Apparently Baron Wharncliffe invented both the Handle pattern AND the Blade! The handle is a more extremely tapered version of a dogleg. Now I'm confused!!

 

[Arathol]

Fun isn't it? Actually, the Wharncliffe jack is a radically tapered dogleg jack, which in turn is also an unequal-end serpentine jack. The Wharncliffe name has been appplied to sharply tapered serpentine jacks since Lord Wharncliffe made the design popular in the early 19th century. At some point in time doglegs seem to have been known as Wharncliffe knives due to the this popularity regardless of blade design, but today a Wharnecliffe knife is generally assumed to have a Wharncliffe blade.
Theres several names or terms that can be applied depending on what reference you look at, and many different serpentine patterns. There seems to be some contradiction in some places too, sometimes in the same volume. For instance, elsewhere Levine says that markedly tapered handled knives are doglegs, but if a Wharncliffe master blade is used its a Wharncliffe knife. It is a lot easier to keep things straight if you apply the term only to knives with Wharncliffe blades, regardless of what the handle is.

 

[waynorth]

I call this knife a Dogleg Jack.
And this one below, I think everyone agrees, is a Wharncliffe whittler.

The handle patterns are not that different, although the main blades are at different ends. I can see the argument going on for years about the so-called correct name. I guess call them what you like. It seems the term Wharncliffe generally applies when the master blade is at the big end. and "sometimes" applies when the blade is not a Wharncliffe!
The only thing I'm pretty sure of, because it's the same in most sources of scholarly work, is that the correct spelling is Wharncliffe!!

 

[sunburst]

Here is one I found hiding in the corner..

 

[waynorth]

Here is one I found hiding in the corner..

I suspect you have a lot of corners in your house, old son (burst)!!

 

[xbxb]

Here ya go I carry this most of the time.

 

[RDaneel]

Thought I'd bring this back to the top with the rest of my whittler collection.
Dean

First up is a trio of Case 83s.

Seahorses swimming.

A 6308 and his little brother.

One of AG Russell's Cattaraugus gem's and a Case Select.

 

[sunburst]

Wow what a nice collection of Whittlers...I would love to hold that Cattaraugus in my hands for a couple of years..

Nice.. Thanks for sharing,


Sunburst

 

[LarryM]

RDaneel, nice trio of Case 83's. I really like the red bone. Larry

 

[RDaneel]

Sunburst, the Cattaraugus is a sweetie. I charge for knife holding.

Larry, the red bone 83 looks great from either side. Unfortunately, it is a great example of mismatched scales. One is very jigged, the other side lightly and the colors are also different.

Dean

 

[sunburst]

I charge for knife holding

Yeah, yeah,yeah all the good things in life come with a price!!!

 

[Liveitloud]

Damn, I have been looking at these knives for a week and drooling. I finally took some pics of my 3 whittlers. They aren't in the class with most of these but I love em.

 

[Karl5]

Liveitloud:
What's that white-handled whittler?
It looks just like the one my grand-pa used to carry.

/ Karl

 

[Liveitloud]

Actually I threw that one in as a joke to see if anyone would bite. I picked that up off of ebay for about 10 bucks. It's a company called U.S Classic. With a name like that who would figure it was made in china haha.

They make replica's of older knives. Some of them are pretty good looking. I'm sure the steel is crap but it's a sturdy little knife. Great snap. I use it as a beater at work. If you want to check them out find KY KNIVES. He's the gut that has a lot of them.

 

[Karl5]

Thanks liveitloud.

/ Karl

 

[sunburst]

Here's a whittler that's a little different, Fight'n Rooster Sunfish Whittler...

 

[RDaneel]

Wow. Neat knife, sunburst. Are the scales celluloid or a look-alike?

Dean

 

[kevins73cigars]

My first Case, my first whittler, got it on Friday. I've already started looking for more Case whittlers! I really like the stag 83 RDaneel posted. Got to get me one of those!

This 6308 5 dot has a double tang stamp - can't seem to get a good scan scan...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/kevins73cigars/Case63085dot.jpg

P.S. I know you guys probably have fancy storage cases and all, but if anyone needs a good wooden cigar box to store their knives, I've always got a few extra.