Smoky Mountain Knife Works

Yep, capitalism. Which like I said I give less then a F$%# what any company sells. I dont have to look at them and buy from them if I dont want to. I wont. They wont go bankrupt from losing me, and I dont care. I just dont want to buy from a company that pedals that garbage, just like I walk on past those idiots at every gunshow I attend.

I am not saying that they better pull them, or Im gonna orginize a sit-in. Just will take my money elsewhere, and Im not gonna lose a wink of sleep over the evil mall ninja knives they sell. I took the OP as someone who saw something he didnt like about a company, and put it in the appropriate place on a knife forum to draw forth your own conclusions. I drew mine.
 
hotrodKelley said:
When I read some of these posts, I can't help but think of that scene in deliverance, where those two retards are playing their banjos together.
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If memory serves, one musician was a blind child and the other was a member of the canoe trip group...although it is true some of these posts, such as your's, could remind one of something...
 
Ramm9 said:
If memory serves, one musician was a blind child and the other was a member of the canoe trip group...although it is true some of these posts, such as your's, could remind one of something...
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What, comedy?


Don't strain yourself.
 
Ramm9 said:
If memory serves, one musician was a blind child and the other was a member of the canoe trip group...although it is true some of these posts, such as your's, could remind one of something...
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I love that movie....however.... you completely missed the point. (Poetic license taken.)
 
Sharp Phil said:
So... you want us to boycott a knifeseller because you told them you wanted them to stop selling two knives out of, what, hundreds if not thousands of models, and they said no thanks, we'd rather not do that, and now you're convinced they're all a bunch of Nazi enablers who should be shunned?
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So reading this quote, my first thought was "yep, boycott 'em if their buyers think that these products need to be on their shelves" and that Sharp Phil is trying to stir up the kettle yet again.

After the initial reaction and more thought I began to think this could be one hell of a business ethics debate. I've found myself in the same position as SMKW only with a different adversarial group and product and continued selling the product. I was heading for the popcorn to settle in but, unfortunately, things went downhill pretty fast.

In any case, the more SMKW hears about their product selection the more thought and attention they'll it will get.
 
Contentious debate. I would appreciate it if you all could address the issue without insulting other posters for having a different point of view.

hotrodKelley said:
Sharp Phil said:
So... you want us to boycott a knifeseller because you told them you wanted them to stop selling two knives out of, what, hundreds if not thousands of models, and they said no thanks, we'd rather not do that, and now you're convinced they're all a bunch of Nazi enablers who should be shunned?
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I agree with you.


Grow up people.
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Freedom of expression, freedom of choice, is worthless when choices are limited by an overbearing majority. Democracy is not demagoguery, it is not mob rule. It is majority rule tempered by a statutory respect for everyone's rights. Including the rights of those who are wrong.

You don't have to buy those stupid knives. SMKW doesn't have to alienate you by carrying them. But they can and do sell them or they wouldn't carry them.

At what point does some one point become a deal-breaker? Doesn't every policy bother someone? Do you boycott every damned group or dealer or discussion because it's not 100% what you want?

I think this is a great topic and a great discussion, but please, don't turn on each other because some pathetic pseudo-nazi loser wants a cheap symbol of his ignorance to flash around.

Freedom of speech has two equal and opposite benefits: it allows us to inform the world of our own personal and important insights, AND it enables us to see what the rest of the world is doing wrong before they do it to us. Let the other side tell you all about their plans before they grow up and hurt you with them.

Maybe some of them will read this discussion and learn better.
 
If we are going to be up in arms over this, I think we should boycott Chevrolet, Ford, DuPont, Chase/JPMorgan, ...to say the very least.

These American companies help fund Hitlers war machine, with either products, chemicals, or monetary funding. This is why Chevy built the "SS", and why the Chase logo is a swastika.
 
hotrodKelley said:
If we are going to be up in arms over this, I think we should boycott Chevrolet, Ford, DuPont, Chase/JPMorgan, ...to say the very least.

These American companies help fund Hitlers war machine, with either products, chemicals, or monetary funding. This is why Chevy built the "SS", and why the Chase logo is a swastika.
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Huh? Based on that logic we would have to boycott virtually every company that existed in the 1930's and remains in business today.

Now, if we find that these companies are supplying and funding current adversaries it may have some validity.

The issue with SMKW, and a host of other businesses is that they have made, and continue to make an informed decision to manufacture or market products that some percentage of customers consider inflammatory and racist.

No doubt SMKW is serving a portion of their customer base. That customer base walks over and purchases other products a well. I wonder what the merchants at SMKW find when they fire up their inventory analysis system and review the sku's most often sold together with the "may be offensive" items. That information, and the average order size would tell me a lot about carrying the product.

The thought comes to mind that it's the holiday season so I expect Neiman Marcus has their heavy security out looking for spray paint cans. Neiman Marcus has been fending off the anti-fur crowd for years. That's the same basic business dilemma.
 
Stocking and selling product like the cr*p made by Sigma Impex not only (I'm speculating here) provides funds for Neo-Nazi groups, but also promotes and legitimises their manifesto.
As many have said, it's our free choice whether to purchase from such stores, but I for one am glad that it was brought to my attention.
 
I usually keep away from these threads. I want to thank the OP for the clear and explanative reasoning, and his followthrough.

He has spent substantial time supporting his right to voice his displeasure, and with his post to make aware (however futile it may turn out) through voting with our wallets. It's a powerful tool.

Thanks Esav, for your usual clarity and wisdom.

No one's a troll here that I can see.

Coop
 
It's a $7.00 liner lock...with any luck the schmuck's that buy these things will suffer a serious lock failure and sever off a finger or two.

People have every right to boycott a maker or dealer who they feel is selling something that is universally offensive in nature. How starved for business is this dealer that he feels his business is going to thrive by selling his soul $7.00 at a time? Does he or the knifemaker realize what these symbols represent? The men, women and children who were tortured, murdered, and mutilated? If you were forced to watch your children die...or forced to choose which one should live or die, and then someone made a knife to celebrate the very evil entity that performed these acts, would you be just a little outraged? While it's pefectly legal for these knives to be sold, they are morally offensive. How many of you would be outraged if a knifemaker sold knives depicting and celebrating the 9/11 attacks? How about a Pol Pot commemorative knife?

How fast do you think these knives would be pulled off the shelves if they were to depict something offensive to the Muslim or Gay community?
 
A HUGE :thumbdn::thumbdn::thumbdn: to SMKW:mad:
 
Ramm9 said:
Huh? Based on that logic we would have to boycott virtually every company that existed in the 1930's and remains in business today.

Now, if we find that these companies are supplying and funding current adversaries it may have some validity.
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Oh, I see. So your problem isn't with companies that were behind killing Jews, but with a company that sells a cheap ass knife. I see where you stand.
 
Truth is most companies have blood on their hands to some extent historically.

However chevy and ford arent blatently painting swastikas across their hoods. I highly doubt they are funding terrorism right now, or neo-nazi groups.
 
j williams said:
Truth is most companies have blood on their hands to some extent historically.

However chevy and ford arent blatently painting swastikas across their hoods. I highly doubt they are funding terrorism right now, or neo-nazi groups.
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No, but chase has it as their logo.

How is selling a cheap knife funding anyone?
 
Looking through these posts, their is some really great posts on the way people percieve these knives, and looks like the majority are against them. This is just a forum, if it was internationally, think of how many more would be in disaproval. Bet the majority of the masses.
 
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