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Silverthorn said:
So I actually had a Boy Scouts of America Stamped Hatchet and fixed blade combo set that shared a sheath, and a BSA folder as well. It pisses me off that they discourage fixed blades now. They freaking marksman qualified my dad on rifle and taught me to shoot as well, but without all the awesome classes that my dad had. The United freaking states of P.C. has really screwed the pooch on some things in the last 25- 40 years.
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From the Guide to Safe Scouting p. 62: "Avoid large sheath knives. They are heavy and awkward to carry, and unnecessary for most camp chores except cleaning fish."

That's it. This whole stigma against large fixed blades stemmed from kids bringing giant flippin Rambo knives. As per usual, it comes down to the Troop level for decisions on that for regular campouts, and then to the Camps themselves for larger campouts (jamborees, district campouts, summer camps, etc...). In our troop we limited our boys to no fixed blade knives bigger than a BK16 or around 4 inches or so of blade, they must have their Totin Chip (basically the safety course for knives, axes, and saws), and they must be First Class or higher. Obviously, common sense would say a filet knife doesn't count as it isn't exactly something you would run around stabbing everybody with. We also have large chef knives in the kitchen box because they get used in cooking. But a large number of our boys carry a folder for simple ease of use, or a multitool because that is how boys are raised around here that spend time outdoors. We do have a few though that have gone ahead and purchased fixed blade knives, such as a Mora or a SOG Seal Pup, and we never have had any issues. But like I said, it starts at the Troop level, and if you get a bunch of liberals that have no love of knives as the parents in the Troop, you are going to get a neutered Troop. Be it knives, activities, or whatever.

At one of our summer camps, they actually have a program called "Mountain Man" where you basically live as they would have back when the country was settled, and you get a knife blank that is roughly knife shaped, some basic tools, and some wood, and you have to make your own knife to use for the week. SO I would say it varies from area to area.
 
spikebot587 said:
Got my membership card today, I am now officially a member of the sons of the American legion
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Good for you! We do not have one here or I would be a member. We tried in my hometown but everyone that could join ended up moving away so it never got off the ground. Again though, good for you! Did you enjoy Boys State?
 
DerekH said:
As per usual, it comes down to the Troop level for decisions on that for regular campouts, and then to the Camps themselves for larger campouts (jamborees, district campouts, summer camps, etc...). In our troop we limited our boys to no fixed blade knives bigger than a BK16 or around 4 inches or so of blade, they must have their Totin Chip (basically the safety course for knives, axes, and saws), and they must be First Class or higher.
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That seems very reasonable to me :thumbup:
 
james terrio said:
That seems very reasonable to me :thumbup:
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Well safety comes first, obviously, as IMO it is one of the single most important things we teach those boys. Not very long ago, right before I joined our troop had two Eagle Scouts out with another boy mountain biking on a trail near here. The other boy came off his bike and ended up with a nice sharp stick through his thigh. When the EMS folks arrived, they said the wound was bandaged, cleaned, and all they had to do was take the kid to get stitches, there was no real work for them to do aside from that. You never know when it is going to happen. We had another boy collapse from heat exhaustion during our trip to DC, and the boys had him ready to go before the doctor even got there. It's an awesome thing to know they can save a life.

The First Class thing is their rank, and the third rank they really acquire, and we kinda use that as incentive to get through to that point.
 
DerekH said:
Good for you! We do not have one here or I would be a member. We tried in my hometown but everyone that could join ended up moving away so it never got off the ground. Again though, good for you! Did you enjoy Boys State?
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I loved it! Truly an awesome experience, I've already started my application to be a jr. Counselor next year
 
Posted this in the gun forum bought thought I'd post it here too.
Finally got a garand from the cmp, even came with a brand new stock

 
spikebot587 said:
Posted this in the gun forum bought thought I'd post it here too.
Finally got a garand from the cmp, even came with a brand new stock

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i'd fairly love to get one of those, but honestly, the price... doesn't seem worth it based on the prices i've seen.
 
DerekH said:
Well safety comes first, obviously, as IMO it is one of the single most important things we teach those boys.
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Again, I agree completely and I applaud the efforts of everyone who invests their time/experience in guiding young people towards truly experiencing life and taking certain calculated risks safely and responsibly, and to accept and grow from those challenges along the way. It doesn't have to be "outdoors" stuff... one of our young friends here has had a blast being part of a community play... nervous as heck, but also excited and proud. That's cool, too! It's a major confidence/character-builder for anyone to work through all that and see it to completion. :thumbup:

I will tell you this, no matter what y'all do: if you ain't sweatin', you're not working hard enough. If you ain't a little nervous to put your work in front of people you respect and admire, maybe you don't care enough about what you're doing, and how you feel it should be done. If it feels empty and hollow when people say, "Yeah, your stuff is 'good enough' ", you might be on the right track and it's time to step up your game. That's just me... YMMV.

A dude I worked for a long time, and taught me a whole lot about a whole lot of things, had a little rhyme:

Good, better, best
Never, ever rest
Until your "good" is better
And your "better" is the best.
 
Beautiful rifle Spike!!

james terrio said:
I will tell you this, no matter what y'all do: if you ain't sweatin', you're not working hard enough. If you ain't a little nervous to put your work in front of people you respect and admire, maybe you don't care enough about what you're doing, and how you feel it should be done. If it feels empty and hollow when people say, "Yeah, your stuff is 'good enough' ", you might be on the right track and it's time to step up your game. That's just me... YMMV.

A dude I worked for a long time, and taught me a whole lot about a whole lot of things, had a little rhyme:

Good, better, best
Never, ever rest
Until your "good" is better
And your "better" is the best.
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Wise words and great rhyme!!
 
james terrio said:
one of our young friends here has had a blast being part of a community play... nervous as heck, but also excited and proud. That's cool, too! It's a major confidence/character-builder for anyone to work through all that and see it to completion. :thumbup:
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Speaking of which... I should be able to get pics of the play on tomorrow. A small but much needed update on the 30 day edc thread is coming too. ;)
 
DerekH said:
From the Guide to Safe Scouting p. 62: "Avoid large sheath knives. They are heavy and awkward to carry, and unnecessary for most camp chores except cleaning fish."

That's it. This whole stigma against large fixed blades stemmed from kids bringing giant flippin Rambo knives. As per usual, it comes down to the Troop level for decisions on that for regular campouts, and then to the Camps themselves for larger campouts (jamborees, district campouts, summer camps, etc...). In our troop we limited our boys to no fixed blade knives bigger than a BK16 or around 4 inches or so of blade, they must have their Totin Chip (basically the safety course for knives, axes, and saws), and they must be First Class or higher. Obviously, common sense would say a filet knife doesn't count as it isn't exactly something you would run around stabbing everybody with. We also have large chef knives in the kitchen box because they get used in cooking. But a large number of our boys carry a folder for simple ease of use, or a multitool because that is how boys are raised around here that spend time outdoors. We do have a few though that have gone ahead and purchased fixed blade knives, such as a Mora or a SOG Seal Pup, and we never have had any issues. But like I said, it starts at the Troop level, and if you get a bunch of liberals that have no love of knives as the parents in the Troop, you are going to get a neutered Troop. Be it knives, activities, or whatever.

At one of our summer camps, they actually have a program called "Mountain Man" where you basically live as they would have back when the country was settled, and you get a knife blank that is roughly knife shaped, some basic tools, and some wood, and you have to make your own knife to use for the week. SO I would say it varies from area to area.
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Hey....I identify as liberal...and I think knives are essential. First tool of humans. It's not always "liberals" trying to curtail these things. Here in NH, the "Live Free or Die" state (about as liberal as you can get, IMO) we finally have no carry restrictions that I know of. Something like 75% of the state is "independent". Anywho, I think it's great that you're working with these young people to educate and promote safety and common sense - which is all too uncommon these days.
 
james terrio said:
I will tell you this, no matter what y'all do: if you ain't sweatin', you're not working hard enough. If you ain't a little nervous to put your work in front of people you respect and admire, maybe you don't care enough about what you're doing, and how you feel it should be done.
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I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. If you know your work is good, you don't mind putting your work in front of people. If you respect and admire them then you're going to take what they say and appreciate it and build on it. You're not going to be nervous about it because you know you're going to be getting even better at what you do. And there is plenty of work that you do without sweating, even nervous sweat, when working hard.
 
worldwood said:
Wise words and great rhyme!!
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I only said it because it's true.

Noswad0208 said:
Speaking of which... I should be able to get pics of the play on tomorrow. A small but much needed update on the 30 day edc thread is coming too. ;)
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Outstanding! I'm not at all surprised that you accepted my "30-day Becker knife challenge" and have nailed it, but I'm also very pleased and proud that you've taken the ball and run with it, way beyond our original concept/discussion. You're continuing a proud tradition. Keep up the good work!
 
It doesn't look like I'll get any of the power plant trainee positions I applied for, several have already been filled. Oh well I guess, nothing I can do about that.

Instead of going TSA I've decided to stick it out where I am a while longer. I'm back on straight nights and they have us working 4 days every week (instead of 3 then 4) so I'm raking in some dough. I'm going to stay at least long enough to get totally debt-free (probably by the end of this year) and then figure things out from there. It'll be nice not having to send off $500 every month.
 
bigghoss said:
It doesn't look like I'll get any of the power plant trainee positions I applied for, several have already been filled. Oh well I guess, nothing I can do about that.

Instead of going TSA I've decided to stick it out where I am a while longer. I'm back on straight nights and they have us working 4 days every week (instead of 3 then 4) so I'm raking in some dough. I'm going to stay at least long enough to get totally debt-free (probably by the end of this year) and then figure things out from there. It'll be nice not having to send off $500 every month.
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That suck about not getting the jobs, but becoming debt free will be an amazing feeling for sure. The only thing I owe on is my Tundra and a very small amount on a credit card that I use just to help out my credit score. Misti, on the other hand owes some medical debt and is accumulating a bunch of student loan debt. As soon as she become an RN next summer, we are going to get really aggressive and kick her debts butt. A house will be our ultimate goal once we work on that, bit that's a debt I wont mind paying on.
 
Got many moons ahead of me before im debt free. At least 15 years for my new mortgage LOL

My wife plans on going to nursing schoool next year as well. She is a licensed... Something or another.. Its not a CNA... Damn i cant even remember what she is now.... But its not a nurse, she does give shots and draw blood though and wear those cute nurses outfits that i love hehe :D ... But she plans to become full RN and start school next year. She already contacted a school/s down in florida and all. I dont know all the specifics (obviously) But i know she will be putting more on her student loans to do this from what she said.

I owe around 3 grand left that i financed for my oral surgery. And i got a regular credit card with about $150 left to pay off. Thats it. But my wife has all her student loans with more to come, few credit cards... And will likely end up having to finance a newer car before too long....

Of course i got a house mortgage now... But like you said AC... Im happy to pay that. Hell its $350 a month less than what i paid here for rent. Bigger house and way more land... To own it... I will be kissing the payment as i make it happy to give it away LOL....

But i will likely have to finance to get a workshop too.... Id rather not have to finance it of course, but ill take finance over not getting it LOL
 
ac700wildcat said:
That suck about not getting the jobs, but becoming debt free will be an amazing feeling for sure. The only thing I owe on is my Tundra and a very small amount on a credit card that I use just to help out my credit score. Misti, on the other hand owes some medical debt and is accumulating a bunch of student loan debt. As soon as she become an RN next summer, we are going to get really aggressive and kick her debts butt. A house will be our ultimate goal once we work on that, bit that's a debt I wont mind paying on.
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worldwood said:
Got many moons ahead of me before im debt free. At least 15 years for my new mortgage LOL

My wife plans on going to nursing schoool next year as well. She is a licensed... Something or another.. Its not a CNA... Damn i cant even remember what she is now.... But its not a nurse, she does give shots and draw blood though and wear those cute nurses outfits that i love hehe :D ... But she plans to become full RN and start school next year. She already contacted a school/s down in florida and all. I dont know all the specifics (obviously) But i know she will be putting more on her student loans to do this from what she said.

I owe around 3 grand left that i financed for my oral surgery. And i got a regular credit card with about $150 left to pay off. Thats it. But my wife has all her student loans with more to come, few credit cards... And will likely end up having to finance a newer car before too long....

Of course i got a house mortgage now... But like you said AC... Im happy to pay that. Hell its $350 a month less than what i paid here for rent. Bigger house and way more land... To own it... I will be kissing the payment as i make it happy to give it away LOL....

But i will likely have to finance to get a workshop too.... Id rather not have to finance it of course, but ill take finance over not getting it LOL
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I'll never finance another car. Period. Actually I'll never use credit again except maybe a 15 Year mortgage on a house one day but that is it. No credit cards, auto loans, student loans, none of it. loans are just not worth the headache and stress.
 
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