SNG rant

Thalestin said:
Sucks how as soon as people have a problem with certain knife companies they often get burned at the stake. I think it makes sense for a person to be pissed when they make a substantial investment and dont recieve what they think they should recieve. If Strider wants you to be aware of these things, they should say that openly. A knife is a cutting tool, we arent talking about huge complicated technology. If a knife needs to be adjusted when recieved, it should come with the tool.

I wish the OP luck, and hope after the hoop jumping comes out with a great blade. Sucks that the first memories of the knife include a lot of annoyance and a big fat blister hehe
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Great post. Technically, I can have any knife I want - I'm just not going to take the chance here. With Strider you have at best a 50/50 chance on a good one out of the box based on "many" posts I've seen in several places over a couple years now. I have my favorite knives too and have had about a 5% disappointment rate out of at least 100 knives now and those are simple yet fine production knives but that doesn't mean the Africanized bees need to swarm an OP when a $500 knife only gets right after sending it into customer service on your dime, a place where I tuly hope the company gets it right . . . the second or third time.
 
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So-Lo said:
wait...wait........


what was that?????







Let me tell Mrs. So-Lo, I can be right once in a blue moon!!!! :D:D:D


Glad it worked out for you, should you still not like it I'm sure a RG DGG SW SnG will sell or trade off fast! Now get to reprofiling her, and make her a cutting machine :thumbup: :D
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Right now, the SNG feels like the perfect knife. I can easily thumbflick it. My thumb is so strong now I could probably flick the blade off the pivot. lol.

This whole thread could have been avoided though with better customer communication or product literature. Apparently not even some Strider owners know about the pivot sliding "feature."
 
Goldistheanswer said:
Right now, the SNG feels like the perfect knife. I can easily thumbflick it. My thumb is so strong now I could probably flick it off the pivot. lol.

This whole thread could have been avoided though with better customer communication or product literature. Apparently not even some Strider owners know about the pivot sliding "feature."
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I knew about it but didn't really think that was it because it was so tight.

Not sure how the pivot would get turned to make that tight really.

I am glad it worked for you though, the more you use it the more you will love it. :D

It's true that they could tell more people about the little tricks here and there.

Most of the info is on the USN Strider forum in the Stickies, pretty much everything you will ever need to know about Strider is there.

Sadly we don't have a Strider Forum here anymore.
 
Ankerson said:
I knew about it but didn't really think that was it because it was so tight.

Not sure how the pivot would get turned to make that tight really.

I am glad it worked for you though, the more you use it the more you will love it. :D

It's true that they could tell more people about the little tricks here and there.

Most of the info is on the USN Strider forum in the Stickies, pretty much everything you will ever need to know about Strider is there.

Sadly we don't have a Strider Forum here anymore.
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Yeah, it was no "micro" adjustment for me. More like "macro."

This thing snaaaaps now. Wow.
 
Reeek said:
So what's the deal, is the pivot hole oblique or something?
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There is very slight play between the pivot and the blade before the blade is locked up. Someone on the forums said that is was likely due to the hole in the blade being slightly larger than the pivot diameter. Rumor has it this was designed into the blade. Who the hell knows. Maybe that contributes to why sliding the pivot adjusts tension?

When its locked up though, it is super rigid, at least mine is. Maybe it really is a "feature" lol.
 
Goldistheanswer said:
Right now, the SNG feels like the perfect knife. I can easily thumbflick it. My thumb is so strong now I could probably flick the blade off the pivot. lol.

This whole thread could have been avoided though with better customer communication or product literature. Apparently not even some Strider owners know about the pivot sliding "feature."
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Glad you got your Sng ‘fixed’. Sorry to hear you had to go through so much angst.
I had the same type of problem with my Sng when I first got it. I could open it just fine. Mine was different in that the lock bar stuck REALLY badly when the pivot was in certain positions. I knew it wasn’t simply a lock-face problem. Spinning the entire bull-pivot remedied this. I figured this out by myself. Whoop-de-doo. I don’t know if this pivot deal is by design or poor workmanship. It occurs so often that I tend to think it is designed that way. At any rate, eventually, the action does work very well.


Anyway, the lockbar sticking has gone away now that the knife is broken in. I don’t know if Titanium work hardens or not, but if it does, it has happened to the lockface. Also, the pivot works fine now and I don’t need to spin/tune it anymore. If I would have had to keep doing that, I would not be happy at all, and I would be slamming this knife every chance I got. But, everything has ‘settled in’ and works pretty smoothly now. You may already know this, or not, use some pencil lead on the lockface if it starts sticking.


Like I mentioned, I did my research on this knife before I bought one. I had used Striders before, so I knew that they were often poorly finished and somewhat crude. I wanted to try one out for the long run and see if there was anything to the claims, or see if it was mostly hype. I was not surprised by any of the foibles that I encountered. The only question was, would the damn thing eventually turn into a good knife or not?

Well, it did turn out to be a very good knife. In fact, it is still one of my favorite designs. The only thing I don’t like about it is the thinness of the handle, great for carry, but a little hard on the hands in prolonged use. Not a design flaw, you can’t have both. The Sng is still the lightest, thinnest, strongest folder made, it is in a class by itself in that regard. The funny thing is, I would never recomend this knife to most people because of its idiosyncrasies, particularly in the break-in process. It is just too much to ask of most people to expect this with a $400-500 knife. They may be right, I won't judge them. But, the knife is what it is, and can be an outstanding folder despite the possible anoying break-in time. And yes, the customer service leaves a lot to be desired.


Hopefully this whole ordeal didn’t put too much of a bad taste in your mouth for the knife because I think you will find that you will really like the overall design and execution of the Sng.

If you decide that you like the Sng, and you want something that combines the positive attributes of Strider and CRK, I urge you to try and acquire an XM-18. It is the best of both worlds, and a better knife than either IMO.
 
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Haha this thread is a trip. It's funny how a small tiny adjustment changes so much.
 
Well been reading this thread and granted I think any knife especially a high dollar knife should be working properly before leaving the shop. Somtimes shit happens though. To me it seems there are a couple of makers that folks give a pass to when they get a defective blade. Just send it in they say to the "spa" the customer service is great and you'll have it back in a couple of weeks. Couple things wrong with that picture. 1) I just got it and wanted it and basically don't want to send it back it in cause it pisses me off. 2) I mean its a knife didn't someone see that it wasn't quite right before it left? 3) see numbers 1 and 2 above.

I will say this I have owned 3 Striders over the years and I have lucked out apparantley cause none of them had QC issues. Matter of fact they were perfect out of the baggie. IF I want a knife as tough as a Strider I would look at 5.11 gear as they are closing out the FR series. I got one yesterday and for 70 bucks with shipping it has to be about the most robust liner locking folder made of extremely high quality materials as one will find especially at the price point. I think it could be the number 1 hard use folder for me ever made and I ain't kiddin. keepem sharp
 
Well two months and counting for mine and it's still not back. This SHOT show stuff might be more convincing if I hadn't been getting no responses for months now.Knife came bad, had to send it in, waiting months and they won't respond at my many attempts to contact them on top of it.
 
creativeoutlethobbie said:
It does sound like one that didn't get inspected well enough before it left the factory...and the dealer... shame on the dealer as well for not checking it. I really doubt they have hundreds of the striders to deal with so a quality check before sale would have been nice.

I do think your pivot some how did get rotated. It does make a difference.
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Sums up the entire thread.

Strider QC was fine with the OP until he flicked it 2000 times and even calloused his thumb over a weeks time - but when the pivot finally moved and tightened up too much, it's a piece of crap and everybody dogpiles on.

The OP finally takes competent advice and fixes the problem by simply rotating it back. All the drama queen act is suddenly exposed.

In the day, the average knife user would hammer the pins to tighten it up, reground blades when they broke, and if they didn't like it, took responsibility for the decision.

Now it's floodwaters of denial and accusation.

What we're seeing are too many spoiled from ready credit and having all their demands met from birth. Children of the Mall.

It's just a knife. It's not even a good weapon, and having one doesn't reflect on anything more than a credit limit not maxed yet.

So-lo, thanks for the pivot tip. Might play with mine today.
 
When you pay $500 for a pocket knife it should function perfectly as purchased, period. There are no excuses for anything otherwise.

I have a few striders. I like them but make no mistake, there are plenty of other knives available as good for much less money. You are paying extra for the status. Same has been said about Busse.
 
tirod3 said:
Sums up the entire thread.

Strider QC was fine with the OP until he flicked it 2000 times and even calloused his thumb over a weeks time - but when the pivot finally moved and tightened up too much, it's a piece of crap and everybody dogpiles on.

The OP finally takes competent advice and fixes the problem by simply rotating it back. All the drama queen act is suddenly exposed.

In the day, the average knife user would hammer the pins to tighten it up, reground blades when they broke, and if they didn't like it, took responsibility for the decision.

Now it's floodwaters of denial and accusation.

What we're seeing are too many spoiled from ready credit and having all their demands met from birth. Children of the Mall.

It's just a knife. It's not even a good weapon, and having one doesn't reflect on anything more than a credit limit not maxed yet.

So-lo, thanks for the pivot tip. Might play with mine today.
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Oh I remember back in the day when I used to take a hammer to my knives and when I snapped a blade I would reshape it if possible. :D

Oh wait I still do those things. ;)
 
busselover said:
When you pay $500 for a pocket knife it should function perfectly as purchased, period. There are no excuses for anything otherwise.

I have a few striders. I like them but make no mistake, there are plenty of other knives available as good for much less money. You are paying extra for the status. Same has been said about Busse.
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Like I posted before don't believe everything you read on the Internet. ;)

Most of it can be taken with a grain of salt.

2 Things that will always happen. ;)

1) When a person likes something will hype it up like crazy telling everyone how great it is.

2) When a person either doesn't like something they will bash it until the end of the world or if they have buyers remorse, couldn't really afford it etc they will make the product sound bad to others looking for some sympathy to make them feel better.


I worked in the CS field at different levels and fields for most of my 44 years on this planet and I can tell you that most and I do mean most complaints are complete BS. The fact is customers lie, blow things way out of proporation or make up complete BS stories to get their way. Customers will make it sound like the world is coming to an end and if they are trying to get over or it's really their fault things really get ugly in a hurry.

There are also people who will bash a product because they really can't afford it, it makes them feel better to bash it.


It's human nature really, no way around that.
 
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Additional tip on pivot rotation.... the PT CC that I owned had knurling on the spanner side and was a press fit into the G 10 scale which prevented any rotation. Don't need spanner wrench...tapped it out from other side.

Possible improvement ? Don't know...well kept patent secret ?

A lot of knife makers put out a great blade...mounting it in a folding handle seems to be the challenge.
 
darthsoaker said:
You like Striders, right?
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Yeah, but I don't hype them because they are not for everyone, spending $500 on a knife is a major choice, Strider, CRK etc, people have to justify that expense to themselves. ;)

They are some of the best knives on the market IMO, but being high end not everyone can afford one, or justify the price to buy one. No they are not perfect, but then no knife is perfect. In the end it's just a knife, it doesn't matter if it's a Strider, CRK, Hinderer etc. Once you get past the price they are all just knives.

I own a lot of knives and I look at things rationally, they are either good or their not.

If I don't like something I don't go around bashing it every chance I get. ;)

There are a few knife companies I can't stand, don't like their designs etc, had a few of their models and just didn't care for them period.
 
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Amazing that people in this day and age , buy a knife for $XXX amount and if it aint 100% right , feel the world needs to stop rotating and solve the issue at hand. Yet people buy a new car and have to take it in for a recall or repair , and those cost way more than a knife , and its not that huge a deal.

tirod3 said it right " Children of the Mall. "

Is everyone holding all other manufactured items to the same purfect demands as they are the knife makers/companies ? I highly doubt it .

Cars break , pc's crash , dvd players smoke , things happen , and yes , even when they are new , at the end of the day , it's not a matter of life or death , I don't have any material possessions that are that important.

Hoping for the day when people get back to using their knives , instead of carrying them as jewelery.
 
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