SNG rant

Goldistheanswer said:
I tried twisting the pivot with just my index finger and thumb and it won't budge. I guess I have to ratchet the knife open and closed 500 more times to get the pivot to rotate back? lol. Maybe I should bust out some pliers and get midevil on this POS.

This is a sad joke.

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I would not do anything to it. Just sit it down. Call them on monday and tell them you want a refund. Tell them how unhappy you are with it and that you refuse to pay for return shipping because it should have been okay before it left the factory. Striders are overrated. It sucks you had to find out the hard way as many of us have including myself. I know your upset and I dont blame you.
 
AKnife said:
There should be no excuse for not researching products before buying, especially higher priced products. Sounds like you just bought an SNG because you heard all the hype about them. Strider's aren't for everyone, it's not a fanboy remark it's the truth. It takes a while to break in a Strider, you obviously haven't broken yours in. Do you have a callous on your thumb? If not you've got a long time to go yet. Again, doing some research would've helped you make a better choice as to getting an SNG or not. You would've found that they take weeks/months to fully break in and aren't the greatest on FF, but due to hype everyone thinks they should be just like the Sebenza and are worth the $400-$500 price. They're overpriced, overbuilt, thick, robust folders and you decided to pay for one. Your rant sounds more like buyers remorse than anything, just resell it if you aren't happy.
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Love the condescending fanboy tone. I have a HUGE callous on my thumb from breaking this POS in. My wife asked me today "What the hell is that on your thumb." I have probably cycled this thing open and closed 2500+ times now. There was a point where I could thumb flick it, but for some reason it all of a sudden got a *lot* tighter. I *think* it has to do with the fact the pivot is slipping (the pivot is definitely rotating very slowly over time). It is far far far too tight now. The knife has been completely babied btw.

I DID do research on this knife. 3 weeks of opening and closing this bitch a few hundred times a day is not enough break in? Again, I'm not asking for lightning fast opening. i just want to be able to open this SOB with one hand comfortably. And yes, I have strong hands and am used to opening relatively tight folders. But this is insane. i want a functioning knife, and at this point, the knife does not function properly. period. call me a liar, l could care less.

PS my callous is so thick it actually protrudes into the hole in the blade a few millimeters and is more or less a form fit to the hole. the problem now is it takes so much force to open the blade one handed that I could possibly sheer off the entire callous if I try. Pleasant huh?
 
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Sorry your knife isn't up to par for you , I am sure the reason for the lack of response is SHOT show , which just wrapped up here in Vegas today. ( It was Tues thru Fri with many setting up Monday ).

I have heard good things about Monkey Depot , I am betting they too were at SHOT Show , pretty much the SHOW to be at for seeing new products and making orders for the year while getting to handle product in person. Show is mind boggling in size.

I can say all of the Striders I handled at SHOT show were right on the money , including the 2 in my pocket , and the 3rd I scored at the SHOW.

In the past I have had less than acceptable Benchmade and Kershaws right out of the box , and I did have to send it back in on my dime , indeed it sucks , but they will make it right , just give them a chance.
 
Goldistheanswer said:
Love the condescending fanboy tone. I have a HUGE callous on my thumb from breaking this POS in. My wife asked me today "What the hell is that on your thumb." I have probably cycled this thing open and closed 2500+ times now. There was a point where I could thumb flick it, but for some reason it all of a sudden got a *lot* tighter. I *think* it has to do with the fact the pivot is slipping (the pivot is definitely rotating very slowly over time). It is far far far too tight now. The knife has been completely babied btw.

I DID do research on this knife. 3 weeks of opening and closing this bitch a few hundred times a day is not enough break in? Again, I'm not asking for lightning fast opening. i just want to be able to open this SOB with one hand comfortably. And yes, I have strong hands and am used to opening relatively tight folders. But this is insane. i want a functioning knife, and at this point, the knife does not function properly. period. call me a liar, l could care less.

PS my callous is so thick it actually protrudes into the hole in the blade a few millimeters and is more or less a form fit to the hole. the problem now is it takes so much force to open the blade one handed that I could possibly sheer off the entire callous if I try. Pleasant huh?
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Only thing I can think of is that the bolt pivot has moved or that something (pocket lint?) has gotten in the pivot in which case I'd try cleaning it the best you can without taking apart the knife. I noticed mine started opening smoothly after I got a good callous and then it tightened up a little again. I honestly didn't know about the pivot moving thing until So-lo mentioned it here.

I'm sorry if you think I'm a fan boy, I'm anything but. I love all kinds of knives and becoming a fan boy to only one company/brand/type is ridiculous. I love the SNG design, but don't have much respect for the company (liars/customer service could be better). It's a risk I was willing to take when spending a few hundred for the knife.
 
I don't buy the "attending a trade show, can't do anything else" excuse. I am in sales and I attend 2 or 3 shows a year, and usually exhibit at the big one. You get up @ 6:00 AM and get your butt on the computer and deal with e-mail and whatever else, go to the show, take a customer out and then @ 10 or 11 PM back on the computer and deal with some more problems. If you don't keep up, you won't have to worry about customers for very long, because you won't have any
 
A page or two back there was a comment made about some people who are responding never even owning or seeing a Strider knife. What's funny about that is that I used to get in on threads like these about Striders and stick up for them. -That was before owning one myself. Now, after owning two, I share the pain of people like the OP.
I recall busting a guys balls who said the stop-pin fell out of his Strider. I may have even asked for pictures; I really just could not believe it. Then, when the stop-pin fell out of my SNG, my whole opinion of these knives changed forever. Between that and my choice between overly tight opening or blade-play, I will fully agree with Striders not being for everybody. -They're surely not for me.

On a side note, they did respond quickly to me and the turn around time for repair was under a week.
 
I've had several Strider folders over the years, and all have been really good. I didn't have lock or pivot issues on any of them. Upon receiving them I take them apart, clean them, lube them, and adjust them to my liking. Maybe that has helped me? Not sure.

Anyway, one thing is kinda rubbing me the wrong way: people keep saying that you can rotate the whole pivot and use that as a microadjustment for the pivot tension. The only way rotating the pivot would affect the pivot tension would be:
- the countersunk holes in the knife's frame aren't cut perpendicular to the pivot axis.
- the pivot 'lip' is not cut perpendicular to the pivot axis.

This would result in varying tension when rotating the pivot. Sounds more like a manufacturing/tooling issue to me! But maybe I need to take the Microsoft Windows approach here: it's not a bug, it's a feature! :p
 
Let me say first, I do agree that an expensive knife oughta be smoooooth, or able to at least be lubed-smooth right out of the package. Afghanistan doesn't need whiners like you though, so it's a good job you're not headed there. ;)

As said by others, return for refund and go CRK. I haven't left that camp since I first attended.:D



Goldistheanswer said:
I paid $505 for a new Strider SNG that I got on January 8.

Let me say that I really want to like this knife. It's ergonomic, extremely well balanced and the materials and handle are top notch. That being said, the folding action sucks out of the box.

OK, I knew going into this I would need to "break in" the knife. Two weeks later and approximately 1500+ cycles later, the folding action is worse than the day I got it. Now admittedly, I may not have done the "break in " process correctly (I used Eezox on the pivot to smooth it out), but the knife comes with no instructions (I got a sweet ziploc bag though) and Strider's website is devoid of any information on "break in" or even maintenance. I emailed Strider's customer support on Monday, still no response. Outstanding.

Put me in the camp that thinks when you pay $500+, the folding action should be smooth from the factory. There is simply no excuse for anything less IMO. I own a Sebenza 21 and an Umnum and they were buttery smooth from the factory. Further, the SNG is a tactical knife, and yet deployment speed is far far far worse than my Sebenza two weeks into this hellish break in process. Suppose I was being sent to Afghanistan, should the Army give me a month or two to break in my $500 tactical knife? To make matters worse, you are not supposed to field strip the knife ( I learned this supposed fact on and unofficial internet FAQ). what the hell?

I'll keep the knife, and I'm sure if I keep cycling it 500 times a day, it should smooth out so that I can thumb flick it some day. Of course i'll probably need a new lock bar by then lol.

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice knife, but worth $500 as it comes from the factory? IMO, hell no.
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but , dont you think , you shouldnt take apart and clean and lube new $500 knife ? :)
its fine if you having fun doing so , but knife should be adjusted and lubed and ready to use for that $$$ ,
 
So lo was right. I got an Allen wrench out and simply turned the pivot. It slid around. I did not unscrew the pivot at all (I didn't hold the spanner side in place with anything). The knife loosened up bigtime. Great "feature."
 
Goldistheanswer said:
So lo was right. I got an Allen wrench out and simply turned the pivot. It slid around. I did not unscrew the pivot at all (I didn't hold the spanner side in place with anything). The knife loosened up bigtime. Great "feature."
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wait...wait........


what was that?????







Let me tell Mrs. So-Lo, I can be right once in a blue moon!!!! :D:D:D


Glad it worked out for you, should you still not like it I'm sure a RG DGG SW SnG will sell or trade off fast! Now get to reprofiling her, and make her a cutting machine :thumbup: :D
 
Sucks how as soon as people have a problem with certain knife companies they often get burned at the stake. I think it makes sense for a person to be pissed when they make a substantial investment and dont recieve what they think they should recieve. If Strider wants you to be aware of these things, they should say that openly. A knife is a cutting tool, we arent talking about huge complicated technology. If a knife needs to be adjusted when recieved, it should come with the tool.

I wish the OP luck, and hope after the hoop jumping comes out with a great blade. Sucks that the first memories of the knife include a lot of annoyance and a big fat blister hehe
 
Goldistheanswer said:
So lo was right. I got an Allen wrench out and simply turned the pivot. It slid around. I did not unscrew the pivot at all (I didn't hold the spanner side in place with anything). The knife loosened up bigtime. Great "feature."
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Looks like it worked out for you, now you can finish breaking it in. :D
 
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Thalestin said:
Sucks how as soon as people have a problem with certain knife companies they often get burned at the stake. I think it makes sense for a person to be pissed when they make a substantial investment and dont recieve what they think they should recieve. If Strider wants you to be aware of these things, they should say that openly. A knife is a cutting tool, we arent talking about huge complicated technology. If a knife needs to be adjusted when recieved, it should come with the tool.

I wish the OP luck, and hope after the hoop jumping comes out with a great blade. Sucks that the first memories of the knife include a lot of annoyance and a big fat blister hehe
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I did the pencil trick and the pivot trick with all of mine when I broke them in, no blisters. :D :thumbup:

Breaking in a Strider is pretty easy compared to when I used to have a few Custom 1911's, now that is a pain, talk about break in time and trips to the Gunsmith for adjustments etc.
 
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I bought my Strider used a few years back. I did the research.

People complained the knife wasn't up to their expectations of fit and finish.
People complained it was a overhyped, overpriced, and uncomfortable knife to use.
People found Strider's customer service wasn't free both ways or timely for their needs.
People complained about fanboy owners who didn't mind any of that.

If research was done - ESPECIALLY HERE - that would all have been spelled out in no uncertain terms. The knife was purchased anyway.

Sorry it doesn't suit you. Strider will make it right.

However, despite the catcalls and demands that a company has to do things a certain way - no they don't. They do business as they see fit, and complaining they should be different is certainly one of things research would have brought out.

I knew that going in and bought a SnG anyway. Mines still stiff after three years. It works just fine cutting as I've yet to sharpen it. I've never dropped it like many other knives. And I can open mine one handed easily enough. I have an Atwood flat prybaby to adjust it and never bothered.

The other forum mentioned is privately run, and I'm not sure just anyone can search it. One thing for sure, cross forum bashing is not tolerated - one ingredient of the koolaid there is tolerance for an opposing point of view politely expressed by adults. What you will see are lots of enthusiasts of all stripes who support all knife makers and also buy production knives.

SHOT is a major exhibition and there are many forum administrators attending the show, too. I see Spark hasn't yet weighed in. If he's there, I hope he's enjoying it. I'm sure when he does have time to visit this thread, he'll have something to say.

In before the move . . . . and research would tell you what that means.
 
tirod3 said:
I bought my Strider used a few years back. I did the research.

People complained the knife wasn't up to their expectations of fit and finish.
People complained it was a overhyped, overpriced, and uncomfortable knife to use.
People found Strider's customer service wasn't free both ways or timely for their needs.
People complained about fanboy owners who didn't mind any of that.

If research was done - ESPECIALLY HERE - that would all have been spelled out in no uncertain terms. The knife was purchased anyway.

Sorry it doesn't suit you. Strider will make it right.

However, despite the catcalls and demands that a company has to do things a certain way - no they don't. They do business as they see fit, and complaining they should be different is certainly one of things research would have brought out.

I knew that going in and bought a SnG anyway. Mines still stiff after three years. It works just fine cutting as I've yet to sharpen it. I've never dropped it like many other knives. And I can open mine one handed easily enough. I have an Atwood flat prybaby to adjust it and never bothered.

The other forum mentioned is privately run, and I'm not sure just anyone can search it. One thing for sure, cross forum bashing is not tolerated - one ingredient of the koolaid there is tolerance for an opposing point of view politely expressed by adults. What you will see are lots of enthusiasts of all stripes who support all knife makers and also buy production knives.

SHOT is a major exhibition and there are many forum administrators attending the show, too. I see Spark hasn't yet weighed in. If he's there, I hope he's enjoying it. I'm sure when he does have time to visit this thread, he'll have something to say.

In before the move . . . . and research would tell you what that means.
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I remember all the research I did before buying my 1st Strider, read everything I could about them for months and watched videos too. I had handled a few over the years so I already knew how they handled and felt.

It all paid off and my SmF's are by far my favorite folders that I own because of it.
 
It does sound like one that didn't get inspected well enough before it left the factory...and the dealer... shame on the dealer as well for not checking it. I really doubt they have hundreds of the striders to deal with so a quality check before sale would have been nice.

I have 4 Striders, 3 SNGs. I'm not a fan boy of them and I think they are overpriced, BUT I also think they are very good and unique knives. They have traits that I can't easily get elsewhere.

Their warranties are known to be very good so I'm sure they will take care of you.. the hassle sucks, potential shipping charges as well yes.

I do think your pivot some how did get rotated. It does make a difference.

Good luck with it and if you generally do like the usage of the knife you should hold on to it.
 
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