Spyderco Fakes & Knock Offs Info

Well, I read the thread, and apologized that I was understood, and apparently continue to be. That's all I have to say in this thread. 'Bye.
 
I bought one as well off of Amazon for 114.oo like this too. The torx screw IS larger than the one I bought from a reputable dealer. I hope its not a faker.

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This talk of weights and steel density, feeling the "fakeness" of the knife, is not a good way to spot a fake for those not already in tune with the knife they are buying. Case in point, when I bought my PM2 I had already watched a you tube video on the cosmetic and construction differences which was a better way to tell.

Holding it and guessing the weight? Well, I'm not a carny and had never held a PM2 before that day.

Eh, it is what it is.
 
I might have missed it but is there a spot with a list of reputable dealers? I think a list would help if we dont already have one. I like this thread with the pictures because if anyone has any doubt at all they can look here
 
Tdhurl1103 said:
This talk of weights and steel density, feeling the "fakeness" of the knife, is not a good way to spot a fake for those not already in tune with the knife they are buying. Case in point, when I bought my PM2 I had already watched a you tube video on the cosmetic and construction differences which was a better way to tell.

Holding it and guessing the weight? Well, I'm not a carny and had never held a PM2 before that day.

Eh, it is what it is.
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Heh! You're right. I have been doing some Youtube Video side by side comparisons of Spydercos. I put the clone beside the real knife. I try to cover things that you could see if the pictures were good on an auction site. I also cover weight and thickness differences as well or finish differences, hardware differences etc. I've done a few Spydercos and still have some more to do. You can Search for my name on Youtube to find my channel. I don't know if I should post the link. I also use pix here to look over for reference, but video is more instructive I think.
 
I started a different thread but figure I would post these here to get some more opinions and see what you guys think.


I do not believe either to be fake, but noticed a few things. The logos are in different positions. You will notice some of the logo's being visible while closed on one and not on the other and vice versa. The pocket clip is angled on the black one. The logos on the black one do not have that gold sheen to them like the satin blade does. Not sure if that is just because it is on a black blade. I would love your opinion on these. Sorry for the crappy pictures. Their is not much natural light today as it is rainy. The Edge-U-Cation is different for both of these. Could that be because of the date made?


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Capt. Spaulding said:
I started a different thread but figure I would post these here to get some more opinions and see what you guys think.


I do not believe either to be fake, but noticed a few things. The logos are in different positions. You will notice some of the logo's being visible while closed on one and not on the other and vice versa. The pocket clip is angled on the black one. The logos on the black one do not have that gold sheen to them like the satin blade does. Not sure if that is just because it is on a black blade. I would love your opinion on these. Sorry for the crappy pictures. Their is not much natural light today as it is rainy. The Edge-U-Cation is different for both of these. Could that be because of the date made?


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They also appear to have the wrong pocket clip screws.
 
Your PM2's look real to me. There is variability in Spydercos. They are not "Cookie Cutter" or should I say they are Cookie Cutter, because not all cookies are identical! Close but not identical. The Black blade logos definitely have a flatter look to them IME. They are silver an I suspect a totally different way to put them on the blade.
 
Capt. Spaulding said:
Thanks. :thumbup:
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The G-10 looks like it has a sharp tooth
The Bevel on the G-10 scales doesn't look wide like it does on most clones
The Lock area of the G-10 looks real
The lanyard hole looks real

I'm getting a real PM2 to compare against my Fake PM2 next week, I'll do a side by side video on it.

What do you think?

Where did you buy them?
 
les_garten said:
The G-10 looks like it has a sharp tooth
The Bevel on the G-10 scales doesn't look wide like it does on most clones
The Lock area of the G-10 looks real
The lanyard hole looks real

I'm getting a real PM2 to compare against my Fake PM2 next week, I'll do a side by side video on it.

What do you think?

Where did you buy them?
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I am about as sure as could be both of these are real. The one and only thing that threw me off was the pocket clip being canted off to the side on one of them and the placement of the logos, but I figure it is just small differences between batches.

I think it is against the rules here to mention certain shops unless they are "verified" members. Lets just say they are from the shop that sells cutlery.
 
Bought this used from a private party (prior to having any knowledge of the knock-off issues). After a couple of videos and pages of counterfeit posts, I am officially part of the paranoid club.
- No documentation included so I couldn't evaluate that
- Don't own another so can't do a hands on side by side
- Main concern: hex screw instead of torx on the pivot

Any opinions appreciated. I can include higher res pics of any angle on request.

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Search youtube for my Username. I did a side by side on this particular knife. Looks well used or at least well carried.
 
les_garten said:
Search youtube for my Username. I did a side by side on this particular knife. Looks well used or at least well carried.
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Thanks Les, great video. Picked up a few things I hadn't seen in the others. I'm thinking mine is genuine but I'm far from an expert. I have since dismantled and cleaned it, it was desperately needed. When I did I saw the date stamp on the pivot 02-08, matching the date code on the label. Hoping that's a good sign?
 
courtdale said:
Thanks Les, great video. Picked up a few things I hadn't seen in the others. I'm thinking mine is genuine but I'm far from an expert. I have since dismantled and cleaned it, it was desperately needed. When I did I saw the date stamp on the pivot 02-08, matching the date code on the label. Hoping that's a good sign?
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I would bet that's a REAL good sign! I can't see counterfeiters paying any attention at all to the internals that most folks will never see. ;)
 
courtdale said:
Thanks Les, great video. Picked up a few things I hadn't seen in the others. I'm thinking mine is genuine but I'm far from an expert. I have since dismantled and cleaned it, it was desperately needed. When I did I saw the date stamp on the pivot 02-08, matching the date code on the label. Hoping that's a good sign?
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Thanx! That date does seem to be a good detail. The G-10 edges and the finish on the lock are keys as well.

I just got my Para 2 today and will be doing a video on it after the first of the year as well.
 
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