Spyderco Tenacious not so popular?

[Stainz]

I don't like the knife because of it's name - 'Tenacious' - gimme a break! Now I find out it's made in the PRC. The best $40 knife deal ended over a year back - the Spydie Native in S30V sold then for $39.48 at WallyWorld. Made in the USA - on Earth - too. The Buck #347 Vantage Pro in S30V, made in ID, is another great choice, albeit in the $46 range.

Nationalist pride isn't just vanity - it's self-preservation. We don't have much these days to choose from that is really American made. Our economy needs help. We still make some nice products here - albeit they are getting fewer and further between such examples these days.

Stainz

PS Don't all folders have at least one hole in them???

 

[jorski3000]

I've heard nothing but good things about the Tenacious, so in about five minutes I'll rush to the post office to pick up mine. Then I'll know if it's all that. Mind you, an American brand name knife costs double here, so it's not a cheap knife for me. Affordable, though.

I don't care where it's made or what it's called. If Spyderco releases a knife called the Mongo, the Retard or the Bootylicious, I'll have a look. If the knife is good I'll carry it. :thumbup:

 

[jorski3000]

...Back from the post office, and here it is!

It feels good, looks good, shaves, no play. In a week or so I'll know if it's a keeper.

That was quite a plunge. I've never had a good sized liner lock before. I've been trying to avoid them. I'll risk it, 'cause it's a Spydie.

 

[vitekboi]

Careful though, the hole might crack if you try to pry a car door open with it! Hahah seriously though, one of reasons I bought this knife is for the wide blade and full flat grind. Plus the tenacious costs $30 dollars, almost half the price of some of the other knives mentioned. It seems like some people dislike the tenacious just because it's not USA made.

 

[Dekz]

I don't see how you can make an opinion if you don't even have one.
Are you just using other people's opinions for your statements?

This is your quote about the Tenacious from another thread.


How do you know F&F is on par?

In that thread we were discussing the quality of both the Tenacious and the Persistence. I DO have a Persistence

All of my posts in this thread have been referring to the popularity of the Tenacious on BladeForums (which happens to be the topic of this thread if anybody cared to look), not the quality of the knife itself.

 

[UpChUcK]

Od-1, Skyline, Leek, Blur are all $50 or below (shop around) and all made in USA. RAM, apparently $50 shipped doesn't qualify for the $50 and under price point?
Check the FS forums, even more options, take a look for yourself and tell me.

Once again, those are better for my uses for $50, I think the materials and USA made makes them a better value.

I don't like the knife because of it's name - 'Tenacious' - gimme a break! Now I find out it's made in the PRC. The best $40 knife deal ended over a year back - the Spydie Native in S30V sold then for $39.48 at WallyWorld. Made in the USA - on Earth - too. The Buck #347 Vantage Pro in S30V, made in ID, is another great choice, albeit in the $46 range.

Nationalist pride isn't just vanity - it's self-preservation. We don't have much these days to choose from that is really American made. Our economy needs help. We still make some nice products here - albeit they are getting fewer and further between such examples these days.

Stainz

PS Don't all folders have at least one hole in them???

I have the Skyline ($35), OD-1 ($40), Buck Vantage Pro ($40), Spyderco Native 4 ($40) and Tenacious ($30) among others. I EDC the Skyline the most just because the size and weight are right. But I do think the Tenacious is a better value. to me. Its size/shape, fit in my hands, and fit & finish are a bit better. Steel-wise, the Sandvik may have an edge in terms of reputation but in my real world use, there's really not much difference between the steels. Sandvik has a slight edge if any. But that's just in my personal use.

I would put the Tenacious in the same realm as the Vantage Pro as far as 'bang-for-buck'. Vantage Pro has 3 notches up on steel, but does not have the phosphor bronze washers the Tenacious has. This could be the casue of the Vantage's slightly flexy pivot area. THe Tenacious is solid in lockup. That plus the fit & finish is a bit better on my Tenacious. But the Vantages steel choice and the Bos heat treat puts it a bit in the lead in my opinion. But I'm no steel snob so it isn't that crucial in my use. I mentioned in my earlier post that I feel the Tenacious is a 'top 3' best buys. To me it is but at #2 behind the Vantage Pro. Now if I got the Vantage Pro for $50, then I would would have to re-evaluate.

As far as the OD-1 - great knife but not better than the Tenacious IMO. And the Native, well, I did get mine for $40 from WalMart but I don't think you can get it under $50 and it is commonly @ ~$60. It does use a premium steel but that is pretty much the only advantage it has over the Tenacious. Liner-less pinned construction really puts a hit on the Native 4. Plus the fit & finish on my Native is quite bad.nothing really lines up and it does not operate as smoothly or as fast as the Tenacious.

I'm putting aside any political issue simply because it really isn't as important to me as it is with others. The whole quality sucks in China does hold water with me either because I know that China is more than capable of producing high quality products like the iPhone and various electronics and computer parts to name a few. Those that preach about USA over China probably are typing their comments on a chinese made keyboard and clicking "Submit Reply" with Chinese made mice. So China IS capable of high quality manufacturing and the Tenacious is a shining example of this.

Now if the Tenacious is offered in S30V for $40, then the edge is definitely in the Tenacious' favor over the Vantage Pro.

From what I have gathered, the Tenacious seems to be as popular as ever. It may have lost its initial spark when it was new and so many were clamoring to get one, but it is still a great high-value knife.

 

[Jake Bauer]

Nationalist pride isn't just vanity - it's self-preservation.

Historians could debate that that theory is what started WWI and II. Now If I have the opportunity to buy US over anywhere else, than I will. But thats not to say that the US makes only the good stuff.

 

[mlanghornes]

crap, another Tenacious-loving thread, and I forgot to pack mine today
This just gives me more justification to pull the trigger on the Persistance

 

[ousanas]

Od-1, Skyline, Leek, Blur are all $50 or below (shop around) and all made in USA. RAM, apparently $50 shipped doesn't qualify for the $50 and under price point?
Check the FS forums, even more options, take a look for yourself and tell me.

Once again, those are better for my uses for $50, I think the materials and USA made makes them a better value.

OD-1: great knife, liked it a lot, carried it for a while, traded
Skyline: wanted one bad, played with one at walmart, still think it looks great, but a bit small in my hand so passed on it, still a beautiful knife (especially the damascus one)
Leek: GREAT KNIFE, had a g10/s30v one forever, eventually traded it just cuaz the handle wasn't quite to my liking, but I do love that knife
Blur: also great, bigger handle, so many great options on steel/handle/blade etc. Had one, traded it as well, just cuz I got tired of it.

I love all those, my current minor gripe with most kershaws is how much knife is left out of the pocket wen set up tip up, not a huge deal, but always puts me off themafter a while.

I love my tenacious, it's big, and the handle is beefy, so it fits my hand beautifully. It's a great value, I have never had any issues with the hole in the knife, yes, a hole ina blade does weaken and could lead to issues, but the millie refered to in this thread would be the first one I've ever seen. TazKristi posted pics of some testing they did with salt blade bent at 90 degree angles with no breakage, so I am not going to worry too much about that unless I need to use my spydies as climbing pittons

As for Made in China, *shrugs* it happens. I have lots of USA and Japan made knives, I really like my UKPK between s30v, g10, SAL logo and the USA stamp, it's perfect.

the Walmart Native was the steal of forever, I am still mad at walmart for stopping carrying them but sales will tell how it goes. people didn't realize what a great deal that was.

Best deal under whatever price? maybe, maybe not. Best "Spyderco" named deal at that price, probably, but I won't even guarantee that, it all depends on the person/user/size etc.

 

[ousanas]

Spyderco Native 4 ($40)

As far as the OD-1 - great knife but not better than the Tenacious IMO. And the Native 4, well, I did get mine for $40 from WalMart but I don't think you can get it under $50 and it is commonly @ ~$60. It does use a premium steel but that is pretty much the only advantage it has over the Tenacious. Liner-less pinned construction really puts a hit on the Native 4. Plus the fit & finish on my Native is quite bad.nothing really lines up and it does not operate as smoothly or as fast as the Tenacious.

As an aside to the conversation, it's not the native 4, it's the original Native

the Native 4 is vg10 FFG, with CF handles made in japan. Native III is the wireclip, more 3d handle made in Japan, Native II (not really called that but considered it) is/was the SS handles. FRN current version is technically the Native I just like the original, but with better steel.

That said, great knife, was an amazing deal when available at Walmart.

 

[bekylane]

I think it is a good knife "for the money". I personally would rather spend a little more and buy a knife that is manufactured in a country that doesn't hate the U.S.

Why do you have that opinion of China? I have never heard such thing. And by the way do you own an iPhone? They are made in China too.

 

[babakanoosh45]

I feel sorry for the MOD's

 

[mmarkh]

Why do you have that opinion of China? I have never heard such thing. And by the way do you own an iPhone? They are made in China too.

China supports N.Korea. Is that a good enough reason? I don't have an IPhone but I do have an IPod. If you can find me a cell phone or an MP3 player made in the USA I will be all over it. I am forced to buy enough imported items because that is the only place they are made but there are too many good knife makers in the USA that I won't buy Chinese made just to save a few bucks. I have several Spyderco's, some from Golden Col. and some from Japan. I draw the line at the Chinese models. My choice and my right. You can buy what you want even if those Chinese are working for about 25 cents an hour.

 

[Teague]

Nothing bad?

Well, its a linerlock knife - so watch them fingers. The cut-out to disengage the lock is too big, making the lock easily inadvertently disengaged.

The 8CR13MOV steel isn't the "cat's meow" as far as steels go. Good for sharpening practice.

The big hole in the blade is a weak spot where the blade will probably snap off.

As for being the "golden boy", hardly. Its a $40 dollar knife that performs as well as a $40 will. Nothing special. You can do worse, but for a few bucks more you can do better. Same can be said for a number of knives.

+100 (Exactly why I don't own one.)

IMHO, the Tenacious isn't as good as either of my two Native IIIs. One is S30V and the other is VG10.

Nationalist pride isn't just vanity - it's self-preservation. We don't have much these days to choose from that is really American made. Our economy needs help. We still make some nice products here - albeit they are getting fewer and further between such examples these days.

AMEN!!!

 

[bekylane]

China supports N.Korea. Is that a good enough reason? I don't have an IPhone but I do have an IPod. If you can find me a cell phone or an MP3 player made in the USA I will be all over it. I am forced to buy enough imported items because that is the only place they are made but there are too many good knife makers in the USA that I won't buy Chinese made just to save a few bucks. I have several Spyderco's, some from Golden Col. and some from Japan. I draw the line at the Chinese models. My choice and my right. You can buy what you want even if those Chinese are working for about 25 cents an hour.

You forgot two important things.

1) Not everyone in this forum lives in the USA (I don't)
2) Japan does not loves the USA, remember a little event called WW2?

Finally the Tenacious is a very popular knife regardless of where it is made. It does not matter how much you hate China that does not changes the fact that the Tenacious is selling well.

 

[Teague]

It does not matter how much you hate China that does not changes the fact that the Tenacious is selling well.

It has NOTHING to do with hating China. It's all about supporting DOMESTIC USA knife makers; and, showing them that some of us prefer a knife that is completely made in the USA. There' s a big difference!

 

[bekylane]

It has NOTHING to do with hating China. It's all about supporting DOMESTIC USA knife makers; and, showing them that some of us prefer a knife that is completely made in the USA. There' s a big difference! And BTW, you may not live in the USA but it's my guess that your country has benifited from the largess of the USA in one way or another. If it wasn't for the USA, most people in the world would be speaking either German or Japanese or Russian these days.

Yo seem to forget that Spyderco is a US company. LOL American nationalist people that think like that are the reasons why there was WW2. People like that make me :barf:

LOL

This forum topic is about the popularity of the Tenacious, it has nothing to do with your nationalism or where the knife is made.

And to answer the OP question: Yes the tenacious is a very popular knife, currently one of the best selling Spyderco knives.

PS: You do seem to support non US knives in this thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673980&page=3

 

[lava_lamp]

Hey sorry just wanted to know cause I really like the knife I just want to know if it has been surpassed or something recently... I never see it in the exchange. Please tell me because I really like it but im not sure...

The stuff that doesn't show up in the exchange is the stuff that people want to keep. You see the occasional Tenacious, but most people figure the resale value is $15-$20 when they paid only $30-$35 and prefer to keep what is a very good knife. When they come on the exchange, they go fast.

 

[Teague]

Yo - whatever! The actual topic of this THREAD is this: Spyderco Tenacious not so popular? Some of us were just explaining why we don't buy it. If you don't like the explanation - too DAMN bad! The reason WWII was fought is because people were unable to think for themselves and followed the crowd without question - sort of like what you obviously do.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

If it wasn't for the USA, most people in the world would be speaking either German or Japanese or Russian these days.

A lot of people DO speak German, Japanese, or Russian these days. I can still read some German and I speak Russian. Why should that matter to you?

This is the blade discussion forum. If you have "nationalistic" reasons -- for anything -- take them to Current Events or the Political Arena, please.