SRM, Bee, Enlan, Navy and knives Fan post

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BladeChick777 said:
I like the Frame lock ...
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Well, if it had scales on other side, it would still be the same lockup, guess it would have to be called "liner lock", but would be exactly same as now.

....and love being able to open it with the flipper or the thumb studs.
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I'd prefer the cleaner lines the blade would have without the studs, since it opens so well with just the flipper. One could gently open it two handed if trying not to scare the citizens. :)

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Does anyone know if the Enlan EL01D's handle is thicker than a normal black EL01?? and if so, by how much? thanks.
 
Hey, thank you. Could you tell me the handle thickness of the EL01D? im trying to judge how well it rides in the pocket. Do you pocket carry it?
 
I have a Navy K-502 and after a year of use, I am amazed at the edge retention. I only strop it from time to time. Never had to sharpen it yet. I hear the quality of the SRMs and Bee/Enlan is even better. The bang for the buck rivals my Opinel #7.
 
gkeenang said:
Hey, thank you. Could you tell me the handle thickness of the EL01D? im trying to judge how well it rides in the pocket. Do you pocket carry it?
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You are welcome. Its handle thickness is 16.6 mm.
I haven't carried mine yet. The summer clothing is not ideal for EDCing such a solid knife.

Chris "Anagarika";11106644 said:
Vortex,

Have you chanced getting EL08 and reviewed it? So far it seems to be mixed (good & bad).
The blade shape is sexy like : www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthre...olding-Knife-Linerlock-MSP-by-Reinhard-Müller
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Chris,
The EL08 looks tempting but I haven't bought one yet because of its mixed reviews and higher price.
 
Hi guys i want to share with you some pics of the two blades i recieved

* Enlan EL01
* Ganzo G710

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They are excelent, they come razor sharp. I just stropp them with my homemade leather strop with polishing compound and they are insanelly sharp. The Ganzo 710 could not be so smoother. The opening is a dream. The ergonomics of the Enlan is superb

Really happy with them :thumbup:
 
vortex said:
You are welcome. Its handle thickness is 16.6 mm.
I haven't carried mine yet. The summer clothing is not ideal for EDCing such a solid knife.



Chris,
The EL08 looks tempting but I haven't bought one yet because of its mixed reviews and higher price.
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My 2 cents ... get it!
It is heavy, solid in every way, and the steel takes and keeps a scary hair popping edge.
Hands down a winner even at $20. I kid you not, this piece of metal has $150 written all over it.
I even ordered a second, as well as a 2nd EL-01, both really stood out.

As for QC and level of duty, its right there with the EL-01 which is an outstanding knife IMHO and the best bang for the buck from Enlan.

Gonna get some picks up once I have all of them in. Have been convexing the edges and polishing them up to mirror.

Just got in the Ganzo G710 ... solid and smooth. Also one of the few larger China knives that you can move the clip on for the lefties.

So far, quality wise, I'd say Enlan is making the best out of the bunch, with their EL series amazing at the price.
The M series are a lot like BEE's, and make for a tight and lighter folder, more of EDC depending on your likes.
The Ganzo is up there with Enlan, maybe a bit rougher .. hard to say .. it may be the scales on the G710 ... feels like your holding a rock.

The Inron I got is interesting, the MY803. The stud makes sense, keeps you from needing to flick it in public. A step down I'd say in QC from Enlan-01, but not bad.
For those scared of the lockup, I don't see an issue. It's nothing close to the EL-08 framelock, but is adequate.
Thing is, if your gripping it, your pushing that frame in anyway, also, if any failure ever managed to happen while your holding it, the opening lever will stop against your finger.
Unless you where using it as a hammer and whacking the spine, I don't see a problem.
Sure I'd like to see it beefier, but for the price ...
Also, the jimping is not up to par on the body, however the jimping on the blade is great ..... made in 2 different locations? Night and day.
Edit: Oddball lanyard hole and placement, clip has only 2 screws ..... wonder if that will hold up long term.
Edit2: Just reprofiled the edge. Metal has a flaw in the middle, small dip in the middle. It'll work, but knocks it down another notch.

Honorable mention to the EL-04.

The Navy's, compared to the Enlans, least bang for the buck, but if you reprofile them, fix any chips etc, solid build.
Again, bang for the buck is relative if you look at US prices. Once reprofiled and convexed, (the original edge was horrible ... all over the place and waaay too obtuse) the K-610 is a good buy.
The K-602, also very rough out of the bag, (both had chips in the recurves) cleans up nicely and is a skull crusher in itself.
Not EDC, but a fine backup camping knife, like a mini kukri :)

Enlan m-08 looks to be a fine EDC, but for me the handle needs a lanyard to fit right, the blade and lockup very well done.

EL-02 in Micarta ... classy. Would love to see that scaled down by 20%, perfect EDC. Very nice as is, just a bit thick and about the same weight as all the ELs, just at the tipping point for me .. all depending if I'm wearing a belt thing. They pull.

Sorry for the bad pics, I snapped these of the EL-08 after sharpening, you can see they need to be disassembled and cleaned, some factory grime inside and out.
Hmm .. the pics are thumbs, click for a bigger one .. have to figure that out, uploaded from computer.
I'll make proper ones in time once I get the rest here, 4 more on the way.




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Oh, quick note, the studs on the EL-08 get real close to a belt if sharpening that way. Large. I don't think I can get under 20 degrees without removing them.
 
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Thanks!

I usually remove the studs for sharpening, EL02, SRM 763 and 710. I like hole better than studs for this reason.

Have tested Spyderco Resilience, it seems the heat treat is better than the Navy I have (631) assuming they are of same steel. Have not tested it against the Enlans.
 
TheBishop said:
My 2 cents ... get it!
It is heavy, solid in every way, and the steel takes and keeps a scary hair popping edge.
Hands down a winner even at $20. I kid you not, this piece of metal has $150 written all over it.
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Sure it's a good piece for the price, little doubt about it. But compare it to a true $150 knife? You must have a low expectation of quality. If you ever hold any $150 Spyderco, street not MSRP, especially those from Taiwan, I bet you will change your mind.
 
00max00 said:
Sure it's a good piece for the price, little doubt about it. But compare it to a true $150 knife? You must have a low expectation of quality. If you ever hold any $150 Spyderco, street not MSRP, especially those from Taiwan, I bet you will change your mind.
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Trust me, I have a lifetime of quality knives that I know I overpaid for and have held just about everything out there. True $150 knives these days are not all that, Steel maybe, even that is questionable at the level made these days. More times than not, your paying for name and prestige and design. Compare it to a Retail priced framelock Boker of $329, street $199. A Strider Knives SnG Framelock (real similar in many ways) in the $400 range? Not close to a $150 knife? Really?
Have you held it? Have you seen the price of bigger knives lately?
I don't want to get into a this is better than that though. I'm not saying that, nor comparing it to a more refined lighter piece like a Spyderco Military in the $150 range ... this is a different animal. This is one heavy knife, a lot of metal, decently made, that is comparable in many ways, many ways, to similar knives that fetch up to $400 street.

Besides, this is a China Knife appreciation thread.

Just saying, if a major brand made that knife exactly as is, you are not gonna see a $20 tag on it. You are not gonna see under $100 tag on it. And $150 in the US does not give you a whole lot these days Knife Wise.
For $20, you'll be lucky to find the case that's included with it, let alone the magnetically sealed box .... cute for holding your srms in, you can get about 5 710s in there.
I may even be underselling it ;)
 
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but the quality is on par with the Tenacious to say the best, similar G10 quality but no match of more expensive Spyderco's, same blade steel. Not bad for a $30 knife from a reputable US knife company.
 
00max00 said:
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but the quality is on par with the Tenacious to say the best, similar G10 quality but no match of more expensive Spyderco's, same blade steel. Not bad for a $30 knife from a reputable US knife company.
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Whatever floats your boat OO, we all have opinions.
Your just mad cause you blew $150 on a PPT when you could have had an actual Frame-Lock and case and box for $20 ;)
Never too late, you can buy 7 EL-08s if you sell yours and have some beaters.

BTW, have you held it? Are you talking from experience? Do you own both?
I have, I am, I do.

Tenacious? Not even close. But that's just my experience with both talking. And I've had plenty of crap Spydercos that cost me a lot more than $20.
I get knives to sharpen daily, of all types .. do you?

In Fact, I can't buy the cheapest Spydy for $20 I think.

But I'll take your opinion with a HUGE grain of salt.
Read some of your posts. This is more of a China knife appreciation discussion thing, not a hating thing that I saw looking some of your posts up.
Seems you have .. issues .. with them.
So don't buy them. Spend another $150 on a PPT. After all these years of collecting, admiring, working on, using knives ... I'd take 15 El-01s over 1 single PPT any day. 15!

If your collecting or just want anything or buy into the hype, more power to you. I'm not gonna knock you.
If you think the QC on your Spyercos if better ... great ... it better be at a 15 - 1 ratio ... or more depending what you get.

You see, been there, done that, and have the hundreds of knives I still own from over the years.
If you can't tell, I tend to go overboard. I'm guessing I got ... 24 China .. 25? knives in the past 4? weeks?
I'm waiting on the last batch ... I'm out about $220 ... not bad.
My favorite EDC, my CF Military, can stay safe and sound for when I want it.

Oh, BTW, if it's $30 from a reputable US knife company, which one would that be?, and for $30, it would 99% for sure be made in China by smr, elan whoever :)

Haters gonna hate.
 
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Bishop,

I just got Resilience recently, and saw that Spyderco influence to these companies resulting in better built. In a subtle way.

The closest to compare with is EL01, both liner lock. The Resilience is smoother and better built in many small detail. Strength & lockup are on par, yes. However in the minutes detail on how the lock mating the tang, how the G10 is slightly bigger than liner, how the ball detent works in and keeps the bar not flush with blade preventing moisture trapped, are better in Resilience. I have both.

Is EL01 great? Yes. Does Resilience give a better feeling overall? Yes. Each has it's own place.
 
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Another question if you'll have it. Is there a difference between the BEE El01 and the ENLAN el01? does one have skeletonized liners? is one a higher quality with bronze washers? any little differences?
 
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