Strider Knives, Game Over!

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This just up.
http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/showpost.php?p=968012&postcount=27


And this. Not sure what I think about this new pdf file on POW. It sure reads like, "hey the guy gives us free knives and has for the last umpteen years, so lets overlook this other stuff ". I'm not sure thats what the intent was but it sure comes off as defending Duane while doing some butt kissing of his own all the while using that very term for others that said these things about Duane in interviews and blogs. I also find it a bit funny at the hint that Duane is not being responsible for blogs and articles written about him which he had full knowledge about from being interviewed and also surely having copies of them in his own collection. Its pretty funny in a bad way hinting of cover up if you ask me, but I've only just read it a couple of times. I may have to go back over it and see if I feel the same later. It strikes me as odd for reasons I have not quite put my finger on just yet also. I'm a little surprised at this being in writing. I don't think it speaks very highly of SgtMaj. Skiles here, or at least that is my thoughts right now.

http://www.pownetwork.org/pownet.secure/strider_knives_usmc_feb_2008.pdf

STR


Can you just hear the "OH NO the FREE STUFF is going to run out!" in the tone of his email?
 
Come on, Its known that, you can accumulate years of ATTA BOY'S and just one AH SHIT can wipe the slate clean.

Yes, Chuck Mawhinney was a Hero and rates the respect of one. But he has prostituted his INTEGRITY for $$$$$$$$$$$. Furthermore, he has severly damaged his reputation by the friends he keeps.

He is not a WHORE as they do it for free. PROSTITUE is the key word here and yes, he does charge.

---------------> :foot:
 
Sharky375,
While the results were not what I was expecting or hoping for, I would like to take this time to ask you to pass on a thank you to Silverbullet and anyone else who helped in SOCNET's investigation. I see no reason to dought your results as the only agenda you all had was keeping the integrety of Scout Snipers unblemished.
Thanks,
Jim

To everyone else have a good day, I think I will take some time off the forums while I digest this and let it perk through my brain. We all know that might take a while as I am awful dense.
Jim
 
Can you just hear the "OH NO the FREE STUFF is going to run out!" in the tone of his email?



I dont. I know Bill Skiles and have worked side by side with him. Bill Skiles is an honorable man and a fucking warrior. Be careful what you say.

Ditto on all of the above for Chuck. I know and have worked side by side with Chuck Mawhinney. He is one of the most humble and honorable warriors I have ever met. If he is repping for Strider Knives, I'd say he probably has no clue about this whole internet drama. He's not the dramatic type. If Chuck wanted to make money on his experiences he had 30 years in which to do so and chose not to. I'll make sure in the near future that he is informed of the situation.


I would suggest to all of you to leave both men out of this drama. Both have served this country in an exemplary manner many many times. Both have BTDT many times over. To question the integrity or credibility of either man only makes you look like an idiot. I understand your situation with DD, but neither of these men are DD or MS and neither should have their integrity questioned by anonymous people on an internet forum.
 
Sharky375,
While the results were not what I was expecting or hoping for, I would like to take this time to ask you to pass on a thank you to Silverbullet and anyone else who helped in SOCNET's investigation. I see no reason to dought your results as the only agenda you all had was keeping the integrety of Scout Snipers unblemished.
Thanks,
Jim

To everyone else have a good day, I think I will take some time off the forums while I digest this and let it perk through my brain. We all know that might take a while as I am awful dense.
Jim


Wilco. I'll pass it along to those who did the legwork. I am not a Marine so I did very little in this whole thing but am glad that SOCNET has the resources to find out the truth.
 
I would suggest to all of you to leave both men out of this drama. Both have served this country in an exemplary manner many many times. Both have BTDT many times over. To question the integrity or credibility of either man only makes you look like an idiot. I understand your situation with DD, but neither of these men are DD or MS and neither should have their integrity questioned by anonymous people on an internet forum.


To make the above statement only makes you look like an idiot. Do you possibly think for a nano second that these two men are the ONLY two men that served their country in honor?

There are millions that have served their country in honor, and I'm one of them. Since I am one who has been there and done that, and I have walked the walk and can talk the talk, I for one am not happy with the attitude of the SGM or that of the S/SA or that of Chuck M.

It appears that Strider and Company bought their way through everything and everyone hand their hands out to include Chuck M., the USMC S/SA and the USMC S/SIS.

Its time to pay the fiddler, the game is over and let the chips fall. My suggestion to you is, get out of the way.
 
I dont. I know Bill Skiles and have worked side by side with him. Bill Skiles is an honorable man and a fucking warrior. Be careful what you say.

Ditto on all of the above for Chuck. I know and have worked side by side with Chuck Mawhinney. He is one of the most humble and honorable warriors I have ever met. If he is repping for Strider Knives, I'd say he probably has no clue about this whole internet drama. He's not the dramatic type. If Chuck wanted to make money on his experiences he had 30 years in which to do so and chose not to. I'll make sure in the near future that he is informed of the situation.


I would suggest to all of you to leave both men out of this drama. Both have served this country in an exemplary manner many many times. Both have BTDT many times over. To question the integrity or credibility of either man only makes you look like an idiot. I understand your situation with DD, but neither of these men are DD or MS and neither should have their integrity questioned by anonymous people on an internet forum.

If Strider Knives is made up of a wannabee and a felon, why do Skiles and Mawhinny support them with endorsements and/or apologies like that ridiculous email? Out of the goodness of their hearts?
 
If Strider Knives is made up of a wannabee and a felon, why do Skiles and Mawhinny support them with endorsements and/or apologies like that ridiculous email? Out of the goodness of their hearts?

Are you planning to attack everyone who has ever been fooled by Mick & Duane? In what order? You're going to have a long list of people to attack, but if you do it in alphabetical order you'll get to me early on. I used to run around the forums telling people to buy a Strider knife and saying they're good guys. So did a couple of thousand other people around here....
 
To make the above statement only makes you look like an idiot. Do you possibly think for a nano second that these two men are the ONLY two men that served their country in honor?

There are millions that have served their country in honor, and I'm one of them. Since I am one who has been there and done that, and I have walked the walk and can talk the talk, I for one am not happy with the attitude of the SGM or that of the S/SA or that of Chuck M.

It appears that Strider and Company bought their way through everything and everyone hand their hands out to include Chuck M., the USMC S/SA and the USMC S/SIS.

Its time to pay the fiddler, the game is over and let the chips fall. My suggestion to you is, get out of the way.

So have I. BFD. :jerkit: And no, nowhere did I suggest that. The point is that I doubt that either of these very honorable men had a clue about any of this bullshit. I assure you that Bill Skiles hasn't. Bill has been too busy killing bad guys in Iraq to worry about it. If Strider wants to give away a free knife to a Marine who did a good job, or a Ranger who just lost two legs to an IED, then I doubt they saw a problem with that if they are unaware of MS or DD's status. For you or anyone else to question their integrity because they accepted donations or worked a small gig for these guys without knowing what was going on is cowardly and cheap. The bottom line is that YOU didn't know either until the past few days whether or not the guy was a fake or not, so why would they?

But, don't let me or reason stand in the way of your righteous indignation. Let's start lining anyone up against the wall who ever bought a knife from them. Or whoever sold them the steel.

I have nothing but contempt for both of those assholes. But I'm not going to crucify everyone around them because they were swindled or misinformed.

I'm done with this. Back to getting ready to deploy. You're an idiot, so I'll take your advice and get out of your way so you can prove it.
 
Are you planning to attack everyone who has ever been fooled by Mick & Duane? In what order? You're going to have a long list of people to attack, but if you do it in alphabetical order you'll get to me early on. I used to run around the forums telling people to buy a Strider knife and saying they're good guys. So did a couple of thousand other people around here....




Thank you. Where do these people come from?
 
No. you are missing the point. Night Night time..

I think the point is that we simply don't know what these people are aware of. Is it hard to imagine that some of these older soldier types don't bother with the internet much? As long as MS & DD seemed to be vetted, hung out with the right types and talked the talk, it would be easy enough to take them at their word. It's not these *true* soldiers fault if they got conned too. At this point, imo, the spotlight should be solely on Mick and Duane. All this other stuff is just bullshit...
 
I think the point is that we simply don't know what these people are aware of. Is it hard to imagine that some of these older soldier types don't bother with the internet much? As long as MS & DD seemed to be vetted, hung out with the right types and talked the talk, it would be easy enough to take them at their word. It's not these *true* soldiers fault if they got conned too. At this point, imo, the spotlight should be solely on Mick and Duane. All this other stuff is just bullshit...

This is a good point Jose.


Can you just hear the "OH NO the FREE STUFF is going to run out!" in the tone of his email?

I'm am not sure thats what I see or hear. I guess I am against a free pass to anyone regardless of credentials but that doesn't mean I judge them or myself any for thinking that way. I just don't think a double standard is in order.

I did say that I was not sure how I feel or what I think of that letter from Sgt Maj. Skiles. I'm also not aware of who Sgt. Maj. Skiles is, nor do I know anything about him at all, or at least I didn't. Now I only know what Sharky just shared with us. I simply read what I posted and commented on it with my honest feelings at the time based on my first impression and I do believe I was careful how I said it also leaving myself room for correction or change of heart.

I agree that we should not be judging Chuck or condemning anyone for their choice of friendships, or associations. Nor should we be jumping to conclusions about their motivations or what they know or do not know.

Lastly, Sharky I want to thank you for your efforts here and also those of SOCNET as well as thank your contacts at HQMC. No disrespect intended to you on my part and no disrespect intended to your comrades.

STR
 
Recriminations against folks who backed the Strider guys are rather pointless with a few notable exceptions for those who had a hand in stacking the BS, particularly in the gun and knife rags.

The Marines who wrote are telling the truth IMO. Why would DD take that kind of chance and try to BS a real USMC S/S? One series of inconvenient questions and the bubble is burst hard.

It's the rest of the world that got taken for a flight to Fantasy Island. The impression in the public at large that DD was/is a Marine badass of the first order didn't happen by accident, especially when the beneficiaries of the false impressions needed but to write the editors of SHOT presstitute row and set them straight about the "biographical errors" made by the authors of the fawning fluff pieces.

I'm as well positioned as anyone to say "Told you so!" but I'm not going to do that to the folks I locked horns with over these issues because it is childish and counterproductive.

The issues now revolve around how people move forward from here. Some will see the light and some will keep shoveling. Some won't care one way or the other.

All three paths will feature some world class jackasses on view.

I know my future attitude concerning Strider knives is pretty much contingent upon the principals there coming clean to the public. America is the land of public mea culpas and fawning forgiveness if one can come off as sincerely apologetic.

Admiral Jeremy Boorda, CNO at the time, killed himself in 1996 after getting caught wearing two unauthorized "V" devices on two medals he was actually awarded to wear in his salad bars. The "V" denotes valor in combat, and apparently Boorda didn't earn that distinction during his RVN tours.

I don't expect anyone at Strider to meet Boorda's benchmark of regret, but expectations of them doing the right thing at all are so low I won't be disappointed.

If anything, I stand to be mildly surprised.
 
The point is that I doubt that either of these very honorable men had a clue about any of this bullshit. I assure you that Bill Skiles hasn't.


XXXXXXXXXXXXXX sent me your info concerning your request for phony types in the USMC sniper community ??

SEEMS TO BE AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF A REQUEST ABOUT PHONIES

How can I help..I am the Sgt Maj of WTBN here at Quantico, Va.....I have been a sniper with
the marines for 18 years.I might be able to help you with 1985 and up years of graduates....S/F Sgt Maj Bill
Skiles
SERGEANT MAJOR WILLIAM SKILES
WTBN, QUANTICO, VA
W- 703-784-5080
C- 703-928-0884
" THE GREATEST HONOR IS TO KILL THE ENEMY"
Mary,
Besides being mentioned by Jr varsity reporters in meaningless blogs and
articles, I don't see the relationship of what Duane is doing now with his
knife company and his background .....As I called credible people on Duane,
Duane is not the culprit...It looks that others are being associated with
his knife company and stating that Duane is one of them to get in with the
company...Butt kissing going on...Honestly, this issue is not a flagrant,
malicious abuse on Duane's part.....Just make it known that STRYDER knife
company for the past 20 years HAVE been credible to assist the Marine Corps
with the best fighting knives we use to kill the enemy...Duane's company and
his name maybe confused by the fact that every honor grad from our sniper
school's receive a free $300.00 knife from this company as a token for what
we do.....STRYDER has been doing this for the past 13 years...the SNIPER
association word might be miss used through time....I know through contacts
that Duane's background, whether sniper, bus driver, etc..would never effect
the type of blades they make....Hope this helps...Bill Skiles


Now I don't know what you comprehend out of this letter, but I interpret a person who is sweeping things under the table and don't want the freebies to stop.
 
To make the above statement only makes you look like an idiot. Do you possibly think for a nano second that these two men are the ONLY two men that served their country in honor?

There are millions that have served their country in honor, and I'm one of them. Since I am one who has been there and done that, and I have walked the walk and can talk the talk, I for one am not happy with the attitude of the SGM or that of the S/SA or that of Chuck M.

It appears that Strider and Company bought their way through everything and everyone hand their hands out to include Chuck M., the USMC S/SA and the USMC S/SIS.

Its time to pay the fiddler, the game is over and let the chips fall. My suggestion to you is, get out of the way.

I'm getting out of the way of this thread. In closing, I'm a vet too, I'm not happy about the current findings but it is what it is. But I see no point to insult & question the honor of fellow soldiers who were associated with Strider Knives. You on the other hand seem to have a special hatred for Strider Knives, prior to this thread you were not a member of Blade forum & your only contribution has been in this thread. Now that this thread is wrapping up are you going to stick around & discuss knives, or is it on to the next place to attack Strider Knives? If you're planning on sticking around, then welcome & head to other sections here & enjoy talking about knives. As a Vietnam Veteran, I'm sure you could offer some insight to the knives of that time. But if you are just here to insult those associated with Strider Knives, please take your baggage & leave.
 
Now I don't know what you comprehend out of this letter, but I interpret a person who is sweeping things under the table and don't want the freebies to stop.
Yah. We got that the first time you said it.

You want us to accept your interp.

To what end? What do you want us to do with you interpretation? Add this Marine to our personal enemies lists?

History is full of legitimate hunts for bad guys that turned into witch hunts.

You are NOT doing your cause any good with this stuff.
 
From POWNET's email to the SSA:

"AND IF NOT US, WHO CAN WE DIRECT THE IG TO
CONTACT?"

I've got the feeling that if the IG (Inspector General) of the Marine Corps gets involved, this is going to get even uglier then it already is.

When the honor, integrity, and reputation of the Marine Corps, Organizations within it, and maybe even individual Marines is at stake, it's necessary.

There can be no impropriety, or even appearance of it, when it comes to the dealings of Our Corps, its organizations and its Marines.
 
This just up.
http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/showpost.php?p=968012&postcount=27


And this. Not sure what I think about this new pdf file on POW. It sure reads like, "hey the guy gives us free knives and has for the last umpteen years, so lets overlook this other stuff ". I'm not sure thats what the intent was but it sure comes off as defending Duane while doing some butt kissing of his own all the while using that very term for others that said these things about Duane in interviews and blogs. I also find it a bit funny at the hint that Duane is not being responsible for blogs and articles written about him which he had full knowledge about from being interviewed and also surely having copies of them in his own collection. Its pretty funny in a bad way hinting of cover up if you ask me, but I've only just read it a couple of times. I may have to go back over it and see if I feel the same later. It strikes me as odd for reasons I have not quite put my finger on just yet also. I'm a little surprised at this being in writing. I don't think it speaks very highly of SgtMaj. Skiles here, or at least that is my thoughts right now.

http://www.pownetwork.org/pownet.secure/strider_knives_usmc_feb_2008.pdf

STR

Where did you find the PDF with the emails at POWNET? I don't see it there.
 
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